How has the slam (and "goat") race affected your enjoyment of tennis? And...

How has all of the (often tribalistic) GOAT talk affected your enjoyment of tennis?

  • a. Increased enjoyment

    Votes: 23 37.1%

  • b. Diminished enjoyment

    Votes: 20 32.3%

  • c. No real effect - stayed the same

    Votes: 19 30.6%
  • Total voters
    62
  • Poll closed .
I admit I wind up enjoying it immensely since my guy ended up winning! I ended up watching every win of his endless times, I have never watched his failures ('13 RG, '22 WB) from end to end!
 
SonnyT said:
I admit I wind up enjoying it immensely since my guy ended up winning! I ended up watching every win of his endless times, I have never watched his failures ('13 RG, '22 WB) from end to end!
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I don't think he failed at W 22....
 
Rosstour said:
Perhaps, although I believe that they wouldn't have looked mediocre if they won those prizes. And I think a lot of mediocre talents won big prizes in the past and are consequently overrated by fans today

Like it's not uncommon to hear ppl say Sampras was the most dominant champ ever, but he and Andre never put the kind of stranglehold on the sport like even Fedal did, let alone the B3/4 at the peak of that era. So a lot more players broke through in the 90s that might have been a TPas or Zverev in other eras
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Look who they might have had to beat to win those prizes. Medvedev would've won 2 GS alone against Berrettini in the final and Tsitsipas would've won a couple of slams against Schwartzman and Paul.

At the end of the day, thanks to Djokodal's longevity, we know that these guys have always been mediocre and underserving of multiple majors. There's a reason all of them have choked slam finals from 2-0 up.
 
BorgTheGOAT said:
Berdych was actually not such a perennial choker. His score against the big three at slams is actually better than Murray’s. I think what drove many (especially Fed and Djoko fans) off, was his idiotic fangirling towards Nadal which caused the impression that he was very happy to lose to his daddy.
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This, before 2010 he gave much better fight to Fed at slams than Murray ever did , his only problem was he was an average mover but he has all the shots to trouble anyone.
 
TennisGrandpA said:
Yes , you can say . He always had the firepower to trouble Fed unlike Murray who relied on persistent pushing against Fed at slams
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Assumed you meant that because after 2013 Berdych success vs them went away. Berdych best periods vs them came pre 2014.
 
I admit I hoped for 20-20-20.

Big3 was great, but the last great Big3 year was more than 10 years ago. Since then, tennis has been up and down and new greats didn’t arrive in time for a natural takeover. Big3 was better than the nextgens at veteran age… ombeleebel!

I’m glad the race is over, and my love for tennis is not related to them.
 
RaulRamirez said:
How has the slam (and "goat") race affected your enjoyment of tennis? And...
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It has not, as its been a feature and part of the sports reality across generations. If someone won the GOAT-defining Grand Slam, it was a beautiful, astonishing thing, but the battles continued on in the sport. If someone reached the top of the Best of the Rest list with majors count, great, but again, the sport continued, with other players (well, some) trying to reach those goals. Other sports--including team sports--have players or teams trying to break records or reach GOAT levels, and it does not hurt, but draw positive attention to the sport. It works the same way with tennis.
 
It hasn't increased or decreased my enjoyment of the sport....it has decreased my enjoyment of talking about the sport. Soooo many casual fans and newer fans have a distorted view of what a "successful" career is, by comparing everything to the achievements of Fed, Rafa and Novak. They lazily look at # of Slam titles to determine a past player's greatness--without the slightest bit of knowledge of the different eras of tennis. It's maddening to try and discuss even players from the 80s and 90s...because the Big 4 era has fans thinking the ATP tour and the Slams were always as uniformly run as they have been the last 20 years or so
 
"Medvedev has a Clay Masters 1000 to his name therefore he is superior to Dominic Thiem who has no big title on the surface". It feels like the second you hear this , your killing instinct kicks in, in some ways. You want to laugh about how absurd it is but people feel really offended like claiming that 5>4. Stats are just a tool, a mean, a starting point , some raw matter , how to interpret it correctly is the key , like knowing how to cook and making the recipe nicely
 
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