How many more French Opens will Nadal win

#1
If Thiem holds his nerve today it is likely he wins Indian Wells given the brutal conditions of over 30c. His confidence will therefore soar.

Is Thiem the guy that finally dethrones Nadal at Roland Garrros or does Nadal win another 3 more taking him to 35 years old?
 
#6
Probably around 8 more. Don't forget, he just wins them every year like clockwork with minimal effort expenditure or investment. Last year he wasn't even challenged.

That is what makes him so likely to surpass Federer in the Slam count; Nadal has a pet Slam that he wins each year without fail whereas Federer hasn't got one. So Nadal's Slam count is guaranteed to grow with each year he keeps playing whereas Federer is going to have to fight tooth and nail for each additional Slam.
 
#7
Probably around 8 more. Don't forget, he just wins them every year like clockwork with minimal effort expenditure or investment. Last year he wasn't even challenged.

That is what makes him so likely to surpass Federer in the Slam count; Nadal has a pet Slam that he wins each year without fail whereas Federer hasn't got one. So Nadal's Slam count is guaranteed to grow with each year he keeps playing whereas Federer is going to have to fight tooth and nail for each additional Slam.
Yours is obviously a troll answer, but I don’t have any elements to deny it.
 
#9
I would guess two or three. I also think it's worth wondering whether he'll win any more Slams elsewhere. He's only won one of the last 16 non-Roland Garros Slams, so there must be a chance he will win no more, especially given his frequent injuries and advancing age (33 and a month by the time of Wimbledon).
 
#11
Probably around 8 more. Don't forget, he just wins them every year like clockwork with minimal effort expenditure or investment. Last year he wasn't even challenged.

That is what makes him so likely to surpass Federer in the Slam count; Nadal has a pet Slam that he wins each year without fail whereas Federer hasn't got one. So Nadal's Slam count is guaranteed to grow with each year he keeps playing whereas Federer is going to have to fight tooth and nail for each additional Slam.

 
#17
The answer to this totally depends on the success on clay of a certain Novak Djokovic. If that guy goes well on clay for the next 3-4 years, Nadal might win anything between 0 and 2 more. I simply don’t see anyone else at the moment.

But ask me again in 2021!
 
#19
The answer to this totally depends on the success on clay of a certain Novak Djokovic. If that guy goes well on clay for the next 3-4 years, Nadal might win anything between 0 and 2 more. I simply don’t see anyone else at the moment.

But ask me again in 2021!
Nadal is 6-1 against Djokovic at RG. The answer on this almost totally depends on his knee tendinitis. If he starts to have knee tendinitis not only on hard but also on clay, then he is done. Hopefully, he keeps fit on clay for a few years.
 
#23
Nadal is 6-1 against Djokovic at RG. The answer on this almost totally depends on his knee tendinitis. If he starts to have knee tendinitis not only on hard but also on clay, then he is done. Hopefully, he keeps fit on clay for a few years.
I think a high level Djokovic can beat Rafa on any court these days. That includes at RG and on Chatrier. He turned that particular tide in 2015 but didn’t have the chance to demonstrate that further due to his slump during the last two clay seasons. Just my opinion though, we’ll have to wait and see this year. I hope both are fit and firing.
I also think that Djokovic will have greater longevity than Nadal, hence Nadal potentially having a two year window as co-favourite at RG.
Rafa is almost always fit for clay season so I don’t see that as being an issue really for a few years yet, but I guess it could strike at any time.
 

DSH

Professional
#25
I think a high level Djokovic can beat Rafa on any court these days. That includes at RG and on Chatrier. He turned that particular tide in 2015 but didn’t have the chance to demonstrate that further due to his slump during the last two clay seasons. Just my opinion though, we’ll have to wait and see this year. I hope both are fit and firing.
I also think that Djokovic will have greater longevity than Nadal, hence Nadal potentially having a two year window as co-favourite at RG.
Rafa is almost always fit for clay season so I don’t see that as being an issue really for a few years yet, but I guess it could strike at any time.
The level of the Joker is unknown on clay these days.
An interesting fact that may happen:
Nadal will play Monte Carlo, but it is likely that Nole will not participate.
In Madrid, Nadal by not defending a lot of points (180) may not participate, instead the Serbian will be there.
They could only face both in Rome in an eventual final, although it is not unreasonable that the confrontation is not given until RG, where Thiem has much to say.
 
#26
I think a high level Djokovic can beat Rafa on any court these days. That includes at RG and on Chatrier. He turned that particular tide in 2015 but didn’t have the chance to demonstrate that further due to his slump during the last two clay seasons. Just my opinion though, we’ll have to wait and see this year. I hope both are fit and firing.
I also think that Djokovic will have greater longevity than Nadal, hence Nadal potentially having a two year window as co-favourite at RG.
Rafa is almost always fit for clay season so I don’t see that as being an issue really for a few years yet, but I guess it could strike at any time.
And let’s not act Djokovic wasn’t close even before 2015 (a la 2013). Their rivalry on clay and Chatrier is much closer in terms of level of play than 6-1 suggests..
 
#27
I think a high level Djokovic can beat Rafa on any court these days. That includes at RG and on Chatrier. He turned that particular tide in 2015 but didn’t have the chance to demonstrate that further due to his slump during the last two clay seasons. Just my opinion though, we’ll have to wait and see this year. I hope both are fit and firing.
I also think that Djokovic will have greater longevity than Nadal, hence Nadal potentially having a two year window as co-favourite at RG.
Rafa is almost always fit for clay season so I don’t see that as being an issue really for a few years yet, but I guess it could strike at any time.
2015 was a joke season for Nadal. Easily his worst on the tour. That RG meeting means nothing, but its ok as Djokovic's 'slump' the past 2 years DO count according to you LOL

Nadal on his last 2 RG wins is still better than Djokovic on clay. Theres no point in looking at a 4 year old meeting at RG, or recent HC meetings.
Djokovic couldn't even handle IW yet everyone claimed he was favourite.
 
#29
2015 was a joke season for Nadal. Easily his worst on the tour. That RG meeting means nothing, but its ok as Djokovic's 'slump' the past 2 years DO count according to you LOL

Nadal on his last 2 RG wins is still better than Djokovic on clay. Theres no point in looking at a 4 year old meeting at RG, or recent HC meetings.
Djokovic couldn't even handle IW yet everyone claimed he was favourite.
I accept that Rafa was well below his best that year. But as BHServe suggests above, Djokovic had been getting closer on clay. Nadal has declined on the surface (his opponents on clay over the last 2 years have been laughable) so it will be interesting to see Djokovic’s level. I reckon it’ll be pretty high.
I’m certainly interested to find out.
 

DSH

Professional
#30
I accept that Rafa was well below his best that year. But as BHServe suggests above, Djokovic had been getting closer on clay. Nadal has declined on the surface (his opponents on clay over the last 2 years have been laughable) so it will be interesting to see Djokovic’s level. I reckon it’ll be pretty high.
I’m certainly interested to find out.
Joker's level has decreased even more than the Spaniard on this surface.
Remember me when you see his matches on clay and see his degree of frustration on that surface at 32 years.


PS: do not tell me you are one of those who believe that the level in clay is very low and on the contrary the level in grass is very high, because frankly that in addition to debatable is laughable.
Federer in 2017 and Djokovic in 2018 faced impoverished rivals compared to their victorious years there (with the exception of Nadal although conditions clearly favored the Serbian in that semifinal).
 
#32
Joker's level has decreased even more than the Spaniard on this surface.
Remember me when you see his matches on clay and see his degree of frustration on that surface at 32 years.


PS: do not tell me you are one of those who believe that the level in clay is very low and on the contrary the level in grass is very high, because frankly that in addition to debatable is laughable.
Federer in 2017 and Djokovic in 2018 faced impoverished rivals compared to their victorious years there (with the exception of Nadal although conditions clearly favored the Serbian in that semifinal).
Exactly. Some TTW user started to say that Nadal's level at RG 2018 was "below average". Then the rest of Nadal detractors started to repeat it like sheeps with no proper thought. The reality is that Nadal only lost 1 set in the whole tournament and only had two average matches (first round and against Schwartzman). But in the RG 2018 final he raised his level and played at almost 2017 level. He destroyed a good Thiem who had previously defeated Tsitsipas, Zverev and an in form Cechinatos. Nadal is the 2017 and 2018 RG champion and leads the H2H over Djokovic 6-1 at RG. Of course, Djokovic will have his chances, given the fact that he is a good clay player and Nadal can have knee tendinitis problems again. But in principle Nadal is the absolute favorite.
 
#33
If Nadal wins this one it could be his last - but I'd never write him off doing it at 34 next year too. His body is becoming a huge factor, many withdrawals over the last couple of seasons.
 
#34
I think RN relies more on his confidence than the other top players. I expect him to retire Sampras (reigning RG champ) style or shortly after he stops dominating on the surface.
I dont think he can take multiple beatings in 1 year on his optimal surface while skipping so many other tournaments and come back strong a season or 2 later.
 
#35
Joker's level has decreased even more than the Spaniard on this surface.
Remember me when you see his matches on clay and see his degree of frustration on that surface at 32 years.


PS: do not tell me you are one of those who believe that the level in clay is very low and on the contrary the level in grass is very high, because frankly that in addition to debatable is laughable.
Federer in 2017 and Djokovic in 2018 faced impoverished rivals compared to their victorious years there (with the exception of Nadal although conditions clearly favored the Serbian in that semifinal).
No, I don’t believe there is much difference in level between clay and grass.

Hopefully our theories will be tested at this years FO.
 
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