How many more Slams do you think Djokovic will win?

How many more?

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Prisoner of Birth said:
But Nadal is coming back and coming back strong enough to win the French. If he retires anytime in the next year, then I'll change my mind and my predictions.
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How do you know he is coming back strong enough to win anything much less another slam? All arrows point to the complete opposite of what you are saying when it comes to Nadal's career.
 
BauerAlmeida said:
And who else do you think can stop him?? Bo5 Federer only can on Wimbledon I think. And Del Potro don't think so (you even said it, he has poor fitness, and no way you beat Djokovic in a Bo5 match with bad fitness).
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Pretty much. As it is he should win 1-3 slams next year, and if Nadal doesnt come back in decent shape he should win 2 or 3 (with an outside shot at 4).
 
Clarky21 said:
Sounds like you're getting a little worried about Fed's slam count. :) With the lack of competition,******* has a great chance to catch Fed when it's all said and done.
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No way. Nadal is the only one who's got a shot, and I haven't ruled him out yet. I think he's got about a 20% chance he'll go past Federer's count. Djokovic, maybe a 5%.
 
Clarky21 said:
How do you know he is coming back strong enough to win anything much less another slam? All arrows point to the complete opposite of what you are saying when it comes to Nadal's career.
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Don't listen to the ****s on here. They're only saying what they like to believe. Nadal may not return as strong as he used to be but he'll be back strong enough for a few more Slams as far as I'm concerned. He's still just 26, not 28 or 29.
 
Prisoner of Birth said:
But don't you think Murray is a pretty big challenger now? I'd say Murray now is definitely better than Djokovic on Grass and marginally better on US Open Hards.
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Murray has probably always been better on grass, but Djokovic when he's on form is a better player and that sometimes renders the surface unimportant (as we've seen with Nadal vs several players)

At the US Open, I totally disagree. Murray could have lost to Lopez, Cilic and Berdych and maybe someone else at the US Open this year. I'm not saying they almost beat him but given the way each match went, it wouldn't be surprising if thay had won. Novak pretty much strolled through apart from a dodgy set to Ferrer.
 
Prisoner of Birth said:
No way. Nadal is the only one who's got a shot, and I haven't ruled him out yet. I think he's got about a 20% chance he'll go past Federer's count. Djokovic, maybe a 5%.
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I agree that I dont think Djokovic ever could catch Federer's slam record. He is just too far away. I agree with the percentage odds you give both Nadal and Djokovic at this piont to do that. Then again what would the odds people have given Djokovic before 2011 of having the year he did. Probably less than 5%. He might have another surprise for us, this one a longer term one.
 
NadalAgassi said:
I agree that I dont think Djokovic ever could catch Federer's slam record. He is just too far away. I agree with the percentage odds you give both Nadal and Djokovic at this piont to do that. Then again what would the odds people have given Djokovic before 2011 of having the year he did. Probably less than 5%. He might have another surprise for us, this one a longer term one.
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Well, this is my first prediction (and a safe one). Djokovic won't reach 17 Slams. No1e, feel free to make my prediction your signature :)
 
Clarky21 said:
Sounds like you're getting a little worried about Fed's slam count. :) With the lack of competition,******* has a great chance to catch Fed when it's all said and done.
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Djokovic is a good player but he's not good enough to win 17 slams, I don't even care who the competition is, he's left it too late and he's not even going to catch Nadal nevermind Federer. Nadal could catch Federer but I reckon he wont. Djokovic will do well to crack 10. I just don't see he can bring it to the table day in day out. You saw how he lost most of the big matches this year after his 2011 fairytale.
 
Prisoner of Birth said:
Don't listen to the ****s on here. They're only saying what they like to believe. Nadal may not return as strong as he used to be but he'll be back strong enough for a few more Slams as far as I'm concerned. He's still just 26, not 28 or 29.
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Yeah,with 80 year old knees. He's older in tennis year than his real age by several years.
 
Towser83 said:
Djokovic is a good player but he's not good enough to win 17 slams, I don't even care who the competition is, he's left it too late and he's not even going to catch Nadal nevermind Federer. Nadal could catch Federer but I reckon he wont. Djokovic will do well to crack 10. I just don't see he can bring it to the table day in day out. You saw how he lost most of the big matches this year after his 2011 fairytale.
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******* will catch Nadal,and probably even surpass him. That's pretty much a given.

Catching Fed will be tougher,but he can do it. Again,with the lack of competition for him,he's pretty much a lock to win anything and everything he enters over the next several years.
 
Prisoner of Birth said:
Federer lost to some rather ordinary players in 2007. The Federer in 2005 would have utterly destroyed them. Not everyone he lost to in 2007, just the less-than-stellar ones.
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not to split hairs but you did say in the latter half of 2007, and the Canas losses were in IW and Miami.So maybe that'swhere the confusion lies
 
Prisoner of Birth said:
You're not a Nadal fan. I just remembered that you were the one who called Nadal a snob back in that "Djokovic being nice to fans in Shanghai" thread. I don't know why you pretend to be.
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I AM a Nadal fan. Since 2005 to be exact.

And I don't think I called him a snob,but I do think he is cold with fans. He doesn't even make eye contact with them much less speak to them,or kid around with them. I was actually complementing ******* for how well he behaves with fans,and believe me,it's hard for me to come up with anything good to say about him. Lol.
 
Prisoner of Birth said:
Federer lost to some rather ordinary players in 2007. The Federer in 2005 would have utterly destroyed them. Not everyone he lost to in 2007, just the less-than-stellar ones.
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Ok, he lost to Canas and Volandri, but Volandri played match of his life in front of the home crowd! He lost to Gonzo on WTFs, but it is not so important...
 
Clarky21 said:
******* will catch Nadal,and probably even surpass him. That's pretty much a given.

Catching Fed will be tougher,but he can do it. Again,with the lack of competition for him,he's pretty much a lock to win anything and everything he enters over the next several years.
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Djokovic winning the calendar slam this year, the clay sweep without losing a set, and whatever else was also a given according to you.

Plus even with no competition I don't think Djokovic has the ability to be focused for every big match. Murray could deny him a lot too.
 
No1e said:
Well, he is the youngest among the big 4, and the closest to his prime (even if he is some years past that). Quoting your words, he is only 25 now, and it's not like he's 30 something with Nadal's knees and Fed's old butt. Out of the big 4, he is the most likely to dominate next year. Period.
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He was even more likely to dominate this year and look what happened. If Djokovic is gonna dominate an year more than he did in 2011, it's gotta be next year. 27 year-old Djokovic won't dominate 2014 the way 24 year-old Djokovic did 2011.

Djokovic is smack in the middle of his prime, but past his peak. Murray, on the other hand, has just entered his peak. While he's more likely to dominate than Murray is (just because he has a proven track-record), it's not gonna be easy. Even if he dominates the next 3 years, he'll still be a ways behind Federer.
 
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I think 8 more is pretty realistic. If he plays for another 6 years, he would only have to win 1 or 2 a year. I don't know if Nadal will get back to his old level but I don't see him winning any grand slams except for RG on a regular basis.

So only Federer and Murray in his way. Lets presume that Federer's level will slowly drop in the following years. He might win 2 or 3 slams max in the next 6 years (obviously he won't play that long).

Well this still leaves lots of slams for Djokovic and Murray. Murray isn't good on clay so I don't think he will ever win RG. Djokovic, though, might beat Nadal there once in a while. On other surfaces I'd say it's 50/50 between Djokovic and Murray.

You see how he could easily get 8 or more slams by this logic?

However, it could go completely differently if some new guy shows up and starts competing for Grand Slams, it would make life a lot harder for Djokovic and Murray.

PS: Is Djokovic - Murray going to be the new Federer - Nadal from now on? I prefer the latter to be honest.
 
I agree that Djoko was more precocious than Murray. He won his first master title at 19. Murray won his first at 21. It doesn't necessarily mean that Murray will last longer but for sure he was a late bloomer, Djoko wasn't.
 
Towser83 said:
Djokovic is a good player but he's not good enough to win 17 slams, I don't even care who the competition is, he's left it too late and he's not even going to catch Nadal nevermind Federer. Nadal could catch Federer but I reckon he wont. Djokovic will do well to crack 10. I just don't see he can bring it to the table day in day out. You saw how he lost most of the big matches this year after his 2011 fairytale.
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Nadal's chances to catch Federer probably died at Wimbledon this year. Had he won he would only be 4 behind now and would have a real shot, but 6 behind and with all his momentum gone with the combination of a terrible Wimbledon and injury, it will be extremely difficult. I think it is looking more likely the order will stay as it is now. Nadal probably wont catch Federer, Djokovic probably wont catch Nadal, Murray IMO definitely wont catch Djokovic (even if he is the best and most successful player and wins the most slams of all over the next 4-5 years which I dont think will happen, he still wouldnt be 4 or more slams better than Djokovic in that span). Lastly Murray will definitely win more future slams than Del Potro. In a sense I hope Del Potro reaches 2 or 3, but in another sense that would be an injustice, if he does it he deserves it, but looking at players like Roddick and Hewitt who stayed at the top level for so many years and only won 2 or 1, Del Potro doesnt seem worthy of anymore than 1 by comparision.
 
NadalAgassi said:
Nadal's chances to catch Federer probably died at Wimbledon this year. Had he won he would only be 4 behind now and would have a real shot, but 6 behind and with all his momentum gone with the combination of a terrible Wimbledon and injury, it will be extremely difficult. I think it is looking more likely the order will stay as it is now. Nadal probably wont catch Federer, Djokovic probably wont catch Nadal, Murray IMO definitely wont catch Djokovic (even if he is the best and most successful player and wins the most slams of all over the next 4-5 years which I dont think will happen, he still wouldnt be 4 or more slams better than Djokovic in that span). Lastly Murray will definitely win more future slams than Del Potro. In a sense I hope Del Potro reaches 2 or 3, but in another sense that would be an injustice, if he does it he deserves it, but looking at players like Roddick and Hewitt who stayed at the top level for so many years and only won 2 or 1, Del Potro doesnt seem worthy of anymore than 1 by comparision.
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Pretty much agree. Though I think Delpo definitely looked like a future multi slam winner in 2009. Since his return though he has been pretty average apart from some good matches where he ultimately failed to take out a top guy. The world of tennis has seemed to have left him behind - Murray winning a slam is further proof of this.
 
No1e said:
I just hope Djokovic can win the most slams ever at the end of his career. More than Federer, that's the goal.
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I am a Novak fan but I don't really believe he even wants to try to beat a Fed or Nadal. I don't think that is his goal. I think he would like a RG and to complete the masters set. He'll just try to win as many as he can and have a good career. He's got other aims IMO.
 
Towser83 said:
Pretty much agree. Though I think Delpo definitely looked like a future multi slam winner in 2009. Since his return though he has been pretty average apart from some good matches where he ultimately failed to take out a top guy. The world of tennis has seemed to have left him behind - Murray winning a slam is further proof of this.
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He needs to work harder on his fitness and get in alot better shape. Not sure why he hasnt done this. Maybe he gets injured when he tries to do too much physical work. Taller players are usually most prone to injuries.
 
Taken into consideration the abundance of mugs coming up in the ranks of this new generation of players.. The sky could be the limit for Djoker if he keeps healthy. He could get manage getting a final slam count of 9-10 (maybe more) barring injury
 
90's Clay said:
Taken into consideration the abundance of mugs coming up in the ranks of this new generation of players.. The sky could be the limit for Djoker if he keeps healthy. He could get manage getting a final slam count of 9-10 (maybe more) barring injury
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THIS.

Some people do not realize the mediocrity of the next generations I think. People are still talking aboute the "future" in players like Raonic and Dimitrov who are 20 something and have done NOTHING. Not even close to win a Masters 1000 or reach a final. Did anybody see what Djokovic or Nadal were doing when they were teenagers. Nadal was wining RG and dominating clay and Djokovic was going toe to toe with prime Federer in the USO final.

The worrying thing is not that the young 20's (Raonic, Harrison, Dimitrov, etc) do not look promising enough, also there is not a single teenager that seems will have a great career. Tomic has no big weapons and it's a headcase.

So when people say someone is going to appear and defeat Djokovic or Murray, i'd like to know in which player they are thinking. Because he should be at least be doing something promising now. Players like Berdych or Tsonga can't compete with Djokovic and Nadal. And they are certainly a lot better than any of the youngest hopes.
 
I missed Novak's amazing 2011 so I'm crossing my fingers that he'll match or top it in 2013. I think he has a very good chance to win a significant number of Grand Slams over the next few years. I want to see Nadal come back and play at the top of his game, but I have a sinking feeling he might never be top form again. I see an endless stream of Djokovic-Murray finals that they'll split fairly evenly. I'd be surprised if he doesn't end up with at least five more.
 
veroniquem said:
But prodigious teenagers could pop up at any time from the junior circuit.
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Great players generally show some major promise at teenagers. Fed was beating Sampras at wimbledon, Marat beat Pete at the USO, Djoker going toe to toe with Prime Federer, Becker winning wimbledon, Sampras winning the USO at 19, Nadal dominating clay, Agassi doing damage as a teenager etc. etc.. the list goes on..

These young guys can't today can't even win a freakin tournament.. Much less do any major damage at slams and show the world they are to be reckoned with in the future
 
NadalAgassi said:
He needs to work harder on his fitness and get in alot better shape. Not sure why he hasnt done this. Maybe he gets injured when he tries to do too much physical work. Taller players are usually most prone to injuries.
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True. Plus he's seemed to have skipped events most top players have played, i mean masters for instance. He skipped Shanghai and went to play in Vienna I think. I don't get a lot of confidence coming from him
 
Towser83 said:
True. Plus he's seemed to have skipped events most top players have played, i mean masters for instance. He skipped Shanghai and went to play in Vienna I think. I don't get a lot of confidence coming from him
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He was injured, that's why he skipped Shangai.
 
BauerAlmeida said:
THIS.
Did anybody see what Djokovic or Nadal were doing when they were teenagers. Nadal was wining RG and dominating clay and Djokovic was going toe to toe with prime Federer in the USO final.
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Djokovic was actually 20 when he played his first Slam final against Federer at the 2007 USO, so no longer a teenager but I take your point.
 
BauerAlmeida said:
THIS.

Some people do not realize the mediocrity of the next generations I think. People are still talking aboute the "future" in players like Raonic and Dimitrov who are 20 something and have done NOTHING. Not even close to win a Masters 1000 or reach a final. Did anybody see what Djokovic or Nadal were doing when they were teenagers. Nadal was wining RG and dominating clay and Djokovic was going toe to toe with prime Federer in the USO final.

The worrying thing is not that the young 20's (Raonic, Harrison, Dimitrov, etc) do not look promising enough, also there is not a single teenager that seems will have a great career. Tomic has no big weapons and it's a headcase.

So when people say someone is going to appear and defeat Djokovic or Murray, i'd like to know in which player they are thinking. Because he should be at least be doing something promising now. Players like Berdych or Tsonga can't compete with Djokovic and Nadal. And they are certainly a lot better than any of the youngest hopes.
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That is why I predicted so many future slams for Djokovic, Nadal, and Murray. There are going to be 4 majors awaded each year no matter what (or 5 if they add the China Open or something, lol) and who else is going to win them over the next 5 years atleast if not those 3. Santa Clause.
 
NadalAgassi said:
That is why I predicted so many future slams for Djokovic, Nadal, and Murray. There are going to be 4 majors awaded each year no matter what (or 5 if they add the China Open or something, lol) and who else is going to win them over the next 5 years atleast if not those 3. Santa Clause.
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Had to quote this for the bolded part. Made me LOL.

As for the poll. I said 3 more for him. I was stuck between saying 3 or 4, and probably, looking back on it 4 might be more likely. He could break 10 slams total with 5 more, but I don't think so.

I think he'll complete the career GS, and win 1 RG, I also will give him 1 more AO, and 1-2 more USO. I don't think he'll win Wimbledon again. Although if I've learned anything at all from following tennis, it's that long term predictions are often very hard to make, and that includes looking at younger generations, no matter how "bad" the next crop seems to be.
 
When it comes to the current young players trying to make a breakthrough, I believe it's not just that they are not performing as well as they should/can, but that the current top players are just TOO GOOD right now. It's so much harder to make a breakthrough with the amount of skill and talent possessed at the top, and the younger players can't rise to that challenge yet. Or it could be a generational gap. This generation of players may not be the best, the next one will spur even greater players than before. Who knows. But I hold fast to the belief that our current mainstays in the top 20 have made it near impossible for any youngster to make a breakthrough up until this point.
 
Even if Djokovic retired on 2018 (6 more seasons), he would need to win at least 2 per year to equal Federer. I see him being an important factor until 2016 at the most, so yeah, I'm pretty sure Federer's mark is safe from Djokovic.

Of course, Nole may well win 5-6 of the next 8 slams to skew my predictions, and make me look like a big, fat dumbass.
 
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