How many of Venus, Serena, Justine to win 10 slams or more?

How many of Venus, Serena, Justine to win 10 slams ore more?

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To reach the the top 10, in most slam singles titles for women, a current player would need to win atleast 8 slams. To be ensured of a sole place in the top 10, even should 1 or 2 other current female players reach 10 or more, you would need to win atleast 10 slams. This is the current list:

1. Court - 24 slams
2. Graf - 22 slams
3. Wills Moody - 19 slams
4-tie. Navratilova - 18 slams
4-tie. Evert - 18 slams
6-tie. Jean King - 12 slams
6-tie. Lenglen - 12 slams
8-tie. Connoly - 9 slams
8-tie. Seles - 9 slams
10. Mallorey - 8 slams

So 8 slams would put you in a joint top 10, but not sole possession. 9 slams would only if 1 or 2 other players did not also reach 9 or more.

There are 3 current women I believe have the potential to end their careers with 10 slams or more and ensure themselves sole possession of top 10 in this list. The 3 are Venus Williams, Justine Henin, and Serena Williams. How many of them will?
 
D: None of the above...none of the current women will win at least two slams for the next five years. Winning three per year for the next three years is just not within any of these players--nor anyone else on tour. As well, I don't think any of the listed will be as dominant/tough on tour as the newer generation of players chasing them. The women's field is not as strong as the men's field and still--no woman is dominating it for more than one or two slams per year.

It will be a little while before a player comes on tour that can challenge Graf or Martina with consistancy and the physical make-up to continue at the top of her game for more than two or three years...but women's tennis does show promise with some of the young Europeans charging up the ranks.
 
saram said:
D: None of the above...none of the current women will win at least two slams for the next five years. Winning three per year for the next three years is just not within any of these players--nor anyone else on tour. As well, I don't think any of the listed will be as dominant/tough on tour as the newer generation of players chasing them. The women's field is not as strong as the men's field and still--no woman is dominating it for more than one or two slams per year.

It will be a little while before a player comes on tour that can challenge Graf or Martina with consistancy and the physical make-up to continue at the top of her game for more than two or three years...but women's tennis does show promise with some of the young Europeans charging up the ranks.
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Umm to reach 10 slams you would only need 4 more slams for Venus or Justine, and only 2 more slams for Serena. I think you misinterpreted the thread question.
 
MEAC_ALLAMERICAN said:
I will go with Venus just for the hell of it, but also Serena is more close than both Venus and Justine.
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I voted for all 3, since I think all 3 are very capable of winning 4 or more slams in the future. Serena though has it easiest by far with only 2 left to win. Venus is a bit older then the other two, not much but over a year AFAIK, which when they are all already middle aged players might be significant to a degree.
 
I say Serena. She only needs 2 more and if she keeps playing for another 4 years this is very possible for her. She is a strong contender for Australian, Wimbledon and US Open so 2 more slams for Serena is doable.
I'm pretty sure at the end of her career she will have at least 10 slams.

Venus on the other hand, I am doubtful can get 10. She has only won at Wimbledon and the US open. Aussie and RG aren't surfaces she easily excels in. So she is a contender for less slams than Serena and has to win more; plus she is older.
Can't see it happening. I think Venus will win the US and one more wimbledon before she retires.

Henin pretty much has the lock on the French, and is a contender for all the other slams. I can easily see Henin getting to 10 if she keeps healthy.
 
anointedone said:
Umm to reach 10 slams you would only need 4 more slams for Venus or Justine, and only 2 more slams for Serena. I think you misinterpreted the thread question.
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You are correct. I was thinking in terms of beating Steffi--not just getting into the top ten as the question posed...my bad and good catch...thanks for making things right!

;)
 
I think all 3 have a reasonable chance to. Serena though is the only one virtualy certain to. Henin is likely but not safe to. Venus has a decent shot, but it will be the hardest for her.
 
Well it looks like Venus has the least votes of the 3. I sort of expected that since she is older, and has less slams then Serena.
 
MEAC_ALLAMERICAN said:
Sorry, but Capriati is not winning anything if she comes back.

I mean she has done well with her 14 Career titles, but that is about it for her.
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Yeah I agree. I dont think you will ever see Capriati back again. I think Davenport has much more chance of a successful comeback then her, and I dont even see her neccessarily doing all that well.
 
I vote for Serena since she only needs another 2. Venus & Justine, emmm, not very sure but I would like Venus to do so. After 2nd thought, I vote for all of them.
 
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I voted for none of them. Justine might win a couple more majors, but time is definitely not on the side of the Williams sisters as they are both older than Henin. I honestly don't think any of them will be able to reach that goal.
 
Slazenger said:
I say Serena. She only needs 2 more and if she keeps playing for another 4 years this is very possible for her. She is a strong contender for Australian, Wimbledon and US Open so 2 more slams for Serena is doable.
I'm pretty sure at the end of her career she will have at least 10 slams.

Venus on the other hand, I am doubtful can get 10. She has only won at Wimbledon and the US open. Aussie and RG aren't surfaces she easily excels in. So she is a contender for less slams than Serena and has to win more; plus she is older.
Can't see it happening. I think Venus will win the US and one more wimbledon before she retires.

Henin pretty much has the lock on the French, and is a contender for all the other slams. I can easily see Henin getting to 10 if she keeps healthy.
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I completely agree. Ten slams seems within grasp for Henin and Serena, but doubtful for Venus. Personally, I don't think Venus will win another Slam again, unfortunately. She'll probably make a couple more deep runs at Wimby, but that'll be it, IMO.
 
I think the opposite...I think Serena will reach 10 first, then Venus, and I highly doubt Henin will get 10 very soon.

All she can get really are French Opens. Thats 4 years...I don't know if she can hold her body for 4 more years. :) I hope not.
 
chrisak47 said:
I highly doubt Henin will get 10 very soon.

All she can get really are French Opens. Thats 4 years...I don't know if she can hold her body for 4 more years. :) I hope not.
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Well, she certainly has the game to be a threat in every Slam. I think she's been in the Finals for every single Slam last year. This year, she's already won FO and made it to the semis at Wimby (I don't think she played in AO). That's pretty damn competitive, if you ask me.

Concerning longevity, her style of play isn't that physically demanding, which should be ensuring in terms of health and durability.
 
serena should definitely reach and even surpass 10 slams since she already has 2 and will definitely be a favorite at this year's us open, if she is healthy by then.

venus should get to at least nine - her dad predicted in the press that she will win 3 more wimbledons so you can count that as done (richard williams is very clever in motivating his daughters to reach goals by putting out expectations for them thru the media and his daughters usually take the bait and deliver the goods)

henin should get at least 8 - i see at least 2 more French Opens for her and she may slip through at Wimbledon to complete a career grand slam. as stated earlier, she is also a contender at all the grand slams.

unfortunately (or fortunately, depending on how you look at it), because these great champions are all playing at the same time and are relatively close in age, they will keep splitting up the grand slams for next 5 years (with some going to sharapova, etc) and none will reach the lofty grand slams numbers of navratilova, evert or graf when just one player dominated.
 
serena should definitely reach and even surpass 10 slams since she already has 8 and will definitely be a favorite at this year's us open, if she is healthy by then.

venus should get to at least nine - her dad predicted in the press that she will win 3 more wimbledons so you can count that as done (richard williams is very clever in motivating his daughters to reach goals by putting out expectations for them thru the media and his daughters usually take the bait and deliver the goods)

henin should get at least 8 - i see at least 2 more French Opens for her and she may slip through at Wimbledon to complete a career grand slam. as stated earlier, she is also a contender at all the grand slams.

unfortunately (or fortunately, depending on how you look at it), because these great champions are all playing at the same time and are relatively close in age, they will keep splitting up the grand slams for next 5 years (with some going to sharapova, etc) and none will reach the lofty grand slams numbers of navratilova, evert or graf when just one player dominated.
 
Their chances to do so depend mostly on whether or not Jennifer Capriati decides to make a comeback to tennis. I dont think Venus would anyway though, the chances of Justine and Serena depend on whether Jennifer returns or not.
 
capriatifanatic said:
Their chances to do so depend mostly on whether or not Jennifer Capriati decides to make a comeback to tennis. I dont think Venus would anyway though, the chances of Justine and Serena depend on whether Jennifer returns or not.
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Jennifer was never a consistent force, and she would get her spare tire handed to her, by all those players you mentioned.

Sorry. :-|
 
Surprised to see Serena still leading Justine in votes after the U.S Open. Serena is only 1 year older and is 1 slam ahead, and doesnt look more likely to succeed in the future of the two.
 
MEAC_ALLAMERICAN said:
Jennifer was never a consistent force, and she would get her spare tire handed to her, by all those players you mentioned.

Sorry. :-|
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How was Jennifer never a consistent force? Is 4th round of French Open, semis of Wimbledon, semis of U.S Open, and a top 6 ranking in 1991 not a consistent force? Is quarters of Australian, quarters of French, quarters of Wimbledon, Olympic Gold, and a top 7 ranking in 1992 not a consistent force? Is quarters of Australian, quarters of French, quarters of Wimbledon, in 1993 not a consistent force? Is titles in Australian and French Opens, semis of Wimbledon and U.S Opens, year end #2 in 2001 not a consistent force? Or title in Australian Open, semi of French Open, quarters of Wimbledon and U.S Open, in 2002 not a consistent force? Not to mention 4th semis of French, quarters of Wimbledon, semis of U.S Open in 2004.
 
capriatifanatic said:
How was Jennifer never a consistent force? Is 4th round of French Open, semis of Wimbledon, semis of U.S Open, and a top 6 ranking in 1991 not a consistent force? Is quarters of Australian, quarters of French, quarters of Wimbledon, Olympic Gold, and a top 7 ranking in 1992 not a consistent force? Is quarters of Australian, quarters of French, quarters of Wimbledon, in 1993 not a consistent force? Is titles in Australian and French Opens, semis of Wimbledon and U.S Opens, year end #2 in 2001 not a consistent force? Or title in Australian Open, semi of French Open, quarters of Wimbledon and U.S Open, in 2002 not a consistent force? Not to mention 4th semis of French, quarters of Wimbledon, semis of U.S Open in 2004.
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Sorry, but, what happened between '93 and 2001?
 
I think only Justine.... Maybe Serena can win 2 more but I don't see Venus winning 4 more....
 
capriatifanatic said:
How was Jennifer never a consistent force? Is 4th round of French Open, semis of Wimbledon, semis of U.S Open, and a top 6 ranking in 1991 not a consistent force? Is quarters of Australian, quarters of French, quarters of Wimbledon, Olympic Gold, and a top 7 ranking in 1992 not a consistent force? Is quarters of Australian, quarters of French, quarters of Wimbledon, in 1993 not a consistent force? Is titles in Australian and French Opens, semis of Wimbledon and U.S Opens, year end #2 in 2001 not a consistent force? Or title in Australian Open, semi of French Open, quarters of Wimbledon and U.S Open, in 2002 not a consistent force? Not to mention 4th semis of French, quarters of Wimbledon, semis of U.S Open in 2004.
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You talk about the great years she had in 1991-1993, what you’re not mentioning is the gap in which she achieved these "incredible" feats, 1993-2001:confused:. Yes she came back to win 3 grand slams late in career, but those were all she won. The grand slams are considered the important tournament, but t she only won 1 1/2* tournaments in that span. Also, her head-to-head against the better players were nothing to brag about; again she wasn't a consistent force.

* Since joining this board I learned that a walk-over, don’t account for a victory
 
I think both Justine and Serena. Personally I don't think Justine will need four more years of winning the French before she reaches 10. I'll go so far as to make an early prediction of at least two slams in '08.

Venus, for some reason I see probably one more slam and then an early retirement. I could be dead wrong. Who knows.

Capriati....doesn't Anna Kournikova have a winning record over J.Cap? Were she to come back, she may take a title or two, but not any slams. I've always been a fan of her game, but I'm realistic.
 
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