How many restrings can a set of grommets go through?

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  1. Shangri La

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    How many restrings can a set of grommets usually go through before it becomes unusable? I'm guessing 10? I'm stocking up on some discontinued models and trying to figure out how many to buy. Thanks.
     
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    Way more than 10. Stringing for me doesn't seem to be the biggest cause of damage requiring replacement, rather wear is e.g. ground scrape.

    If a single grommet splits such as a tie off I replace it with a fittex. I've been through prob 40 to 50 restrings on my current rackets and no need for replacement. If the grommets are rare use head tape for added protection and replace single grommets and they'll last for ages.
     
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    It depends on the player - how much they scrape up the head guard, how much they shank balls, what surface they play on, etc. IME, for most players, replacing grommets every 10 restrings would be overkill. I restring my 2 racquets very freqeuntly...and I can usually get through 6 months before needing to replace a set of grommets.
     
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    If you have a racquet(s) you like, and plan on using it for a while then...
    One thing you should do is get a few grommet sets while they are available and relatively cheap, as manuf. typically don't keep them in stock or make that many and once they are no longer available, you will pay dearly when you do find them. I tell the players I string for this and some of them will not listen and learn later when they try to get them.Manuf. will not tell you if any of their new racquets are compatible with the older models.There is a site that typically have most or will custom make, but you really would not like to know the cost.
    As said above, grommets do last, but they do wear put over time, or get brittle and split.Some players wear them down fast, others last a long time.
     
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    One of the things that I like about having loyal customers is that I find I am doing less and less repair work to grommets as time goes by. To me, the number one cause of worn out grommets is stringers who work too fast and friction burn the grommets. If I am the only stringer a player is bringing his racquets to, this problem disappears.

    If you are a bumperguard destroyer then that's another story. I can go years without damaging a bumper. But some people need a new bumper with every re-string.
     
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    I have had a number of players that wear the guard down. Two players had the guards worn down into the frame and actually worn down the frame till you see the inside through to the hollow center, and they asked me to string it. Naturally I declined. They told me that they had no idea it was worn that bad. How they would not know is beyond me, as it was very evident. I even had a player bring me a broken frame to string, not just a fracture but a break as the grommets we're actually closer together, and once the strings we're out it would come apart, he had no clue and wanted it strung. I guess some don't even look at their racquet and just hit with it.The guy that gave me that racquet to string is a very good player as well, one of the better ones in our area, and was hitting with that broken racquet. Go figure.
    I guess some people don't care much about equipment and others are just the opposite and put too much into it.
     
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    No way every ten restrings. I have college players that I string the same frame once a week if not twice equaling 40-50 restrings a year that don’t need new guards or grommets. I also have players that have horrible slice form and need replacing once a month because they hit the ground on every slice. It all depends on wear and how you play. I personally keep a grommet set per racket lying around for my personal rackets.
     
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    Thanks guys - that was a lot of helpful info. I dont put much wear on the bumperguard at all from playing. The main damage on the grommets for me is from stringing - knotting to be specific. I tend to try hard to knot tight, which puts some extra wear especially when stringing poly. The most number of restrings I have put on a set of grommets is 5 or so, at which point the grommets has some very noticeable wear. Guess I will take it easy when knotting then.
     
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    Regarding damage caused by knots, if it is possible to tie off on a cross instead of a main, that can be helpful in prolonging the life of the grommets. What racquet are you using and what is your string setup?
     
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    Tecnifibre tie off eyelets are always on a main string (for main and cross tie offs) and I've never seen an eyelet wear out.
     
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    Irvin...could you please put me back on ignore? Thanks!
     
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    I'm switching to DR98 and string 2 piece. I will take a look.

    Then it's probably my technique then lol... Or I overestimated the level of wearing.
     
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    No normal grommet set will last as long as the Tecnifibre eyelets.
     
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    That makes me feel better lol.
     
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    Irvin is right in that it really depends on the racket. I'm assuming we're talking about the grommets themselves, not the bumperguards. The 1st gen Pro kennex 5g were terrible in this respect. The 5th grommet at the throat on both sides split with normal stringing and playing. It was because the grommet came out of the drilled hole at such a large angle from the frame, plus they were just made too soft. They improved over the years. Other rackets did the same. Yonex, Fischer and Babolat had flared grommets at tie-offs. They were nice.
     
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    Flared grommets at knot tie offs like Yonex have also help a lot.
     
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    I have some C10s I strung A BUNCH for ten years or so and never swapped the grommets out. I enlarged the crosses to tie off the mains as well. I've never had to swap a set out on the C10. OTH, I have had to swap out a new Wilson 6.1 grommet that never would seat.
     
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    String the dr98 one piece unless you’re playing a hybrid. Stringing that racket, a 16x19 blade, a project 17, or a radical as a two piece with the same string is a crime against humanity. They’re all set up to be super easy one piece.
     
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    If the knots are causing most of your problem you can double the number of string jobs by using an ATW pattern and rotating the short side from left to right each time. That way you only have 2 knots each time and every other time the knots are at different points.
     
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    Post of the year! That was truly funny.
     
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    I had a junior player go through one brand new Babolat headguard in just 1 stringjob. I was like "what they hell did you do to the headguard, it was missing a big piece. I just changed it out for you 2 weeks ago." After that, I started stocking up on the PD grommets, just in case.
     
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    Del Potro's grommets during the period when he only had 4 racquets left must have gone through loads of restrings. Supposedly he refused to use new grommets (if the old ones were not totally damaged I assume).
     
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    It was the 2015 Pure Drive Team
     
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    I guess I am guilty of crimes against humanity.

    I only do 1 piece stringing on racquets with 2 skips at the head. More often than not racquets with 1 skip leave you with less than 1/4" of graphite to support a loop of string. I have gotten used to the appearance of 3 knots at the head of a racquet.
     
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    @Shangri La
    I have used a small scrap of nylon string laid at a right angle to cushion the grommet from the knot.
    Hope that helps.
     
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    With poly strings the grommet eyelets do take a beating,,
    tie of holes is a major point of plastic wear

    anyone know if we could buy the "tecnifibre eyelets" seperate?
    I would use these on all my rakets..

    btw i string for this college guy, does not wear out the bumper guard, but he does string often, so most of his grommet holes are either craking or torn with so much restringing
    sharp polys really do cut into grommet pieces
     
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    @1HBHfanatic unless you find someone that will seperate the eyelets from a grommet set you’re not going to find them. Tecnifibre does not sell them separately.
     
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    If you are stringing your own racquets, want to preserve the grommet barrels and don't care what the neighbors think....tie your knots on the outside of the racquet.
     
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    Honestly, I've never replaced the grommets on any of my racquets and I restring at least 12-15 times per year per racket.
     
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    I have a guy I string for that has a similar frame just as you describe. This is the top of the frame. There two smaller, similar sections on the edges on each corner of the top of the frame from repeated, malicious ground shoveling.

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    I strung it for him a couple of times before the gap collapsed last fall. He loves the thing so much, despite buying two new Burn ULS, he still pulls it out of his bag to play with it. I am really surprised the thing hasn't imploded on him yet.
     
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    Just guessing I replace my grommets about once every 3-4 years. I'm not a heavy ground scraper so my bumpers takes years to wear down. I have a handful of guys - all who are pretty much defensive/counter puncher types - I string for who are need of new bumpers every 6-7 months.
     
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    @1HBHfanatic: Since I am always replacing tie off spots, I have packages of the 3.4, 3.7 and 4.0 mm FITTEX. Take out the old tube and put a new tube in, cut and flare it. I only charge $2.00 per tube. For cracked grommets, tubing is free. :p
     
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