How many slam-winning years do you think Nadal will have left when he hits 14 slams?

So if Nadal wins 2 slams this year, the logical Channel slam, that would make it 12. Just to be fair to the fanbases I'm going to give Fedjokovic the benefit of the doubt and assume they can win the US Open and Australian Open (even though it just took Djokovic 6 hours to beat Nadal at the AO). So let's say Nadal has 14 slams by the end of 2013. How many years of slam contention do you think Nadal would have after 2013?
212076623.jpg
 
You should ask for some assistance: you don't want to get hurt trying to reach those straws that are out of reach.
 
It depends how his drawing ability holds up. If he starts drawing Fed consistently (outside of RG) and dangerous floaters like Raonic, etc. I don't see him making it past 11 slams.

If he can somehow keep drawing Verdasco, Lopez, Almagro, etc. he could get to 14. With Mathieu back on tour he could start drawing him every tournament as well.
 
If he starts drawing Fed consistently

ROTFL, only ****s would think at this point drawing Federer in slams is a potential roadblock for Nadal to win future slams. In fact there is nobody of the top guys who Nadal would rather see in any slam. This has been true for over 4 years now, if not longer.
 
So if Nadal wins 2 slams this year, the logical Channel slam, that would make it 12. Just to be fair to the fanbases I'm going to give Fedjokovic the benefit of the doubt and assume they can win the US Open and Australian Open (even though it just took Djokovic 6 hours to beat Nadal at the AO). So let's say Nadal has 14 slams by the end of 2013. How many years of slam contention do you think Nadal would have after 2013?
212076623.jpg

Lets see if he reaches 14 first. I think there is a good chance, but it wont be easy. By that point given his playing style he could already be near the end of the line, but who knows for sure.
 
ROTFL, only ****s would think at this point drawing Federer in slams is a potential roadblock for Nadal to win future slams. In fact there is nobody of the top guys who Nadal would rather see in any slam. This has been true for over 4 years now, if not longer.

Nadal has zero chance against Fed at Wimby or USO. Fed crushed this guy twice in england when he was actually tough. That was years ago. And if he hadn't been recovering from mono it would've been 3 times in a row. And he just spanked him at IW.

But you're right, AO may as well be played on clay and he has a chance against him there.
 
Last edited:
Nadal has zero chance against Fed at Wimby or USO. Fed crushed this guy twice in england when he was actually tough. That was years ago. And if he hadn't been recovering from mono it would've been 3 times in a row. And he just spanked him at IW.

But you're right, AO may as well be played on clay and he has a chance against him there.

First of all, dont blame any Fed losses to injury. Grow up, ****. One victory at IW doesnt mean a lot. What about last yr when Nadal ANNIHILATED Fed at Miami. Fed just cant beat Nadal in slams anymore, he cant keep that intensity up, plsu he isnt mentally strong enough against Nadal.
 
TBH, i really do think Nadal has atleast 2+ years left in him. Remember about 3 years ago when people said he would retire at 25-27. Nadal's reaching 26 and he his fitter than ever. He may still plat at a very high level till the end of 2014, if not more.
 
Nadal has zero chance against Fed at Wimby or USO.

You ****s are cute with your delusions. You demonstrate the comedy value that is the only good thing about this forum.

The question for Federer is if he has more than zero chance to play in a Wimbledon semifinal again with the lame excuse of a ground game he exhibits on grass these days, which saw him nearly go out to Falla, lose to grandpa Hewitt, get spanked off the court by Berdych, and lose from 2 sets up to Tsonga in the last 2 years. Your "beat him at Wimbledon way back when he was tough" would be what applies to Federer, as Nadal beat Federer at Wimbledon when they last played way back in 2008 when Federer's grass court game was 5x what it is today (even if a notch below 2004-2007). Nadal meanwhile is still going strong, having made the final of the last 5 Wimbledons he has played dating back to 2006 now.

I will concede the U.S Open is the one and only slam Federer has a fighting chance if he plays Nadal at today. Would still be the underdog though.
 
Last edited by a moderator:
First of all, dont blame any Fed losses to injury. Grow up, ****. One victory at IW doesnt mean a lot. What about last yr when Nadal ANNIHILATED Fed at Miami. Fed just cant beat Nadal in slams anymore, he cant keep that intensity up, plsu he isnt mentally strong enough against Nadal.

First of all, if you're gonna tell me to grow up, then wipe those tears off your cheeks and learn to post like an adult.

Nadal has been in a fast decline since last year. His backhand is so bad now that Fed can finally return the favour. And before you bring it up, one tournament doesn't mean anything. As far as I'm concerned, Rafa can thank Novak's dead grand daddy for his MC win.
 
Well, I'm more impressed with his clay level right now than I was in 2010 when he went undefeated on clay. He is in maximum attack mode right now and I think he has many more Channel slams left. His longevity may end up being his greatest asset over Federer. 7 straight slam-winning years so far, and the record is 8 straight. Nadal should break that record. He looks way better this year than last year, by far.
federer_nadal_fight.jpg
 
And for the record, I laugh at Roanic as a 'dangerous floater'. So clumsy, so limited. Good enough to beat most players, but nowhere near good enough overall.
 
And for the record, I laugh at Roanic as a 'dangerous floater'. So clumsy, so limited. Good enough to beat most players, but nowhere near good enough overall.

At Wimbledon and the U.S Open he could be. For anyone not named Nadal or Djokovic that is.
 
The OP is not to be taken seriously. Regardless of how many Majors winning years Nadal has left in him.

Oh and it is not "when". It is "should".
 
The OP is not to be taken seriously. Regardless of how many Majors winning years Nadal has left in him.

Oh and it is not "when". It is "should".

I'm making a fairly conservative estimate, writing Nadal off from winning a hardcourt slam over the next 2 years, despite him constantly making slam finals now.
 
Until now Nadal has never won multiple slams in a row, after his best years, namely 2008 and 2010 he managed to win only one Major the following years. I think it is much more realistic to count on 12 than on 14 slams.
 
The OP is not to be taken seriously. Regardless of how many Majors winning years Nadal has left in him.

Oh and it is not "when". It is "should".

Then people should not respond to him. He ruins this whole forum with his continuous and inane posts and even some of the most ardent Nadal fans have said so on here.
 
Until now Nadal has never won multiple slams in a row, after his best years, namely 2008 and 2010 he managed to win only one Major the following years. I think it is much more realistic to count on 12 than on 14 slams.

Nadal only won ONE slam in 2009, then won 3 slams in a row in 2010. Nadal only won ONE slam in 2011, about to win 3 slams in a row in 2012? Seems like he needs an "off-year" to get motivated. He looks more motivated now than ever, and is playing twice as well this year than he was last year on clay. Also had his 2nd best Australian Open ever, this year. Don't be surprised if he's going for THE RAFA SLAM at the Australian Open next year.
 
IF Nadal wins 14. If. In the world of tennis, nothing is absolute. For all we know, Nadal might tear his ACL against Verdasco or the clay bursts open sending him to the center of the earth.
 
Then people should not respond to him. He ruins this whole forum with his continuous and inane posts and even some of the most ardent Nadal fans have said so on here.

You only have yourself to blame, not putting me on your ignore list. The thing I do that almost nobody else does, is I talk about tennis. Nobody else is focusing on tennis. Everybody else is focusing on other posters. If you aren't mature enough to post about tennis on a tennis forum, then use your ignore list function. And don't put "Nadal fans" in one group. There are just as many bad Nadal posters as there are Federer posters and Djokovic posters. There are many, many Nadal posters I don't like - Clarky21 for example. TennisFan3 for example. And vernonbc the other day, can't stand the attitude.

Anyway, back to tennis: The signs we need to look out for with Nadal and his longevity is any drop-off on clay from year to year, because Roland Garros is the slam that will drive him to Federer's 16 slam record. All signs this year point to 2012 being perhaps Nadal's best year ever on clay, according to the current form he is showing. An undefeated run, ala 2010, looks likely at this point. Nadal looked so timid last year on clay. Completely opposite this year.
 
Nadal only won ONE slam in 2009, then won 3 slams in a row in 2010. Nadal only won ONE slam in 2011, about to win 3 slams in a row in 2012? Seems like he needs an "off-year" to get motivated. He looks more motivated now than ever, and is playing twice as well this year than he was last year on clay. Also had his 2nd best Australian Open ever, this year. Don't be surprised if he's going for THE RAFA SLAM at the Australian Open next year.

... I'm a big Nadal supporter but this is just a load of...

Thats like saying. Last year I won the lottery and got $9M. This year I only got $60,000... There is no guarantee that next year I will get $9M again.
 
... I'm a big Nadal supporter but this is just a load of...

Thats like saying. Last year I won the lottery and got $9M. This year I only got $60,000... There is no guarantee that next year I will get $9M again.

Except you have no control over the lottery. There is no rhyme and reason to the lottery. There is no cause and effect. Whereas Nadal's form is controlled by Nadal's mind/dedication and that is dependent on the motivation level which is clearly effected by previous events. It's not surprising. Nadal entered 2011 coming off 3 slam titles in a row. He had nothing left to prove. The mindset would have been completely different to what he's feeling right now. Right now he'd be angry and seeking to regain what he lost.
 
Except you have no control over the lottery. There is no rhyme and reason to the lottery. There is no cause and effect. Whereas Nadal's form is controlled by Nadal's mind/dedication and that is dependent on the motivation level which is clearly effected by previous events. It's not surprising. Nadal entered 2011 coming off 3 slam titles in a row. He had nothing left to prove. The mindset would have been completely different to what he's feeling right now. Right now he'd be angry and seeking to regain what he lost.

Or pissed that he lost in a battle of endurance against djokovic.
 
Or pissed that he lost in a battle of endurance against djokovic.

We got our answer to that at Monte Carlo. Never seen Nadal more eager than this. And I actually thought Nadal looked fresher than Djokovic in the 5th set of AO. Just that the AO is Djokovic's BEST slam surface, so he was supposed to win. Nadal has lost at the QF of the AO in 2010 and 2011. So to make the final was unexpected, especially as Nadal only had a couple of weeks to adjust to his new racquet weight. He had said that he won't get time to really adjust until Feb. So the AO was an unexpected success, and he best result vs Djokovic since 2010 (or on par with Miami 2011).
 
We got our answer to that at Monte Carlo. Never seen Nadal more eager than this. And I actually thought Nadal looked fresher than Djokovic in the 5th set of AO. Just that the AO is Djokovic's BEST slam surface, so he was supposed to win. Nadal has lost at the QF of the AO in 2010 and 2011. So to make the final was unexpected, especially as Nadal only had a couple of weeks to adjust to his new racquet weight. He had said that he won't get time to really adjust until Feb. So the AO was an unexpected success, and he best result vs Djokovic since 2010 (or on par with Miami 2011).

I reckon Murray will win Wimby (somehow) and Fed/Djoko Olympics (because they are keen to get that title).

The only 2 Nadal has a chance at are RG and USO but if fed continues like IW at USO, that will not be a possibility.
 
I reckon Murray will win Wimby (somehow) and Fed/Djoko Olympics (because they are keen to get that title).

The only 2 Nadal has a chance at are RG and USO but if fed continues like IW at USO, that will not be a possibility.

I think when Federer and Djokovic want a title more than anything, they lose. In sports, the more 'worked up' you are about a result, the harder it is to unleash your best level. Federer spoke so much about how badly he wanted Wimbledon last year, and he lost in the QF. And then earlier this year there was all the hype because he'd won 26 straight matches heading into the AO semi vs Nadal, so Federer's hopes were at an all-time high. Doesn't seem to help. And Djokovic last year was all about Roland Garros, and he lost in 4 sets in the semi. Now this year Federer is all about the Olympics, and its on grass, the surface Federer has lost at QF of the last 2 Wimbledons. And note that Federer has lost 3 times in the 1st Round of Wimbledon. So despite having a great prime on grass, it could be the surface he declines at first, because it was the surface he struggled on most early in his career. There may not be a connection, but the results certainly indicate that Federer is now a better hardcourt and clay player than grasscourt player.

I think whoever wins Roland Garros will likely win Wimbledon, as long as it is a convincing Roland Garros victory. Last year, Nadal did not win Roland Garros in a convincing manner. Was probably his worst Roland Garros ever apart from 2009. But this year, he looks like 2010 Nadal, actually even more aggressive than 2010. Maybe to do with the racquet change. Maybe he's just decided to go for broke in order to knock Djokovic off the court. Or maybe its a simple matter of his motivation being greater simply because of 2011. His motivation was great in 2010 after the disappointing 2009. That's the pattern. Maybe Nadal doesn't respond well to long periods of success. It may take his fighting spirit away. He is driven by new challenges.
 
I remember asking if NSK and Bulls were the same guy (or girl). I am now convinced they are the same person.
 
I remember asking if NSK and Bulls were the same guy (or girl). I am now convinced they are the same person.

Good morning.

I think he probably has about 6-7 more years of creating alt accounts and trolling... But hey, that means about 6-7 more years of ridicule. :)
 
TBH, i really do think Nadal has atleast 2+ years left in him. Remember about 3 years ago when people said he would retire at 25-27. Nadal's reaching 26 and he his fitter than ever. He may still plat at a very high level till the end of 2014, if not more.

Fitter than ever? He's not uninspired, flat and subpeak anymore?
 
I think when Federer and Djokovic want a title more than anything, they lose. In sports, the more 'worked up' you are about a result, the harder it is to unleash your best level. Federer spoke so much about how badly he wanted Wimbledon last year, and he lost in the QF. And then earlier this year there was all the hype because he'd won 26 straight matches heading into the AO semi vs Nadal, so Federer's hopes were at an all-time high. Doesn't seem to help. And Djokovic last year was all about Roland Garros, and he lost in 4 sets in the semi. Now this year Federer is all about the Olympics, and its on grass, the surface Federer has lost at QF of the last 2 Wimbledons. And note that Federer has lost 3 times in the 1st Round of Wimbledon. So despite having a great prime on grass, it could be the surface he declines at first, because it was the surface he struggled on most early in his career. There may not be a connection, but the results certainly indicate that Federer is now a better hardcourt and clay player than grasscourt player.

I think whoever wins Roland Garros will likely win Wimbledon, as long as it is a convincing Roland Garros victory. Last year, Nadal did not win Roland Garros in a convincing manner. Was probably his worst Roland Garros ever apart from 2009. But this year, he looks like 2010 Nadal, actually even more aggressive than 2010. Maybe to do with the racquet change. Maybe he's just decided to go for broke in order to knock Djokovic off the court. Or maybe its a simple matter of his motivation being greater simply because of 2011. His motivation was great in 2010 after the disappointing 2009. That's the pattern. Maybe Nadal doesn't respond well to long periods of success. It may take his fighting spirit away. He is driven by new challenges.

It's a nice theory, and as a Nadal fan, I hope you're right. I do agree that he looked more aggressive in MC last week than he has anytime in the last year and a half, with the exception of the last three sets against Berdych in the AO quarter. When Nadal is in offensive/aggressive mode it is still a very awesome thing to watch. Watching Nadal play defensive/retrieving tennis is becoming beyond painful.
 
The OP is being a huge Nadal hater, which is surprising. True Nadal fans know that he will win at least 45 more slams, and probably much more than that. Nadal is also making huge strides in ending the Middle east crises, and promoting a brotherhood of man.
 
Nadal only won ONE slam in 2009, then won 3 slams in a row in 2010. Nadal only won ONE slam in 2011, about to win 3 slams in a row in 2012? Seems like he needs an "off-year" to get motivated. He looks more motivated now than ever, and is playing twice as well this year than he was last year on clay. Also had his 2nd best Australian Open ever, this year. Don't be surprised if he's going for THE RAFA SLAM at the Australian Open next year.

nsk, you have to realize that in 2010, Rafa didn't have any serious challengers. Federer and Djokovic were both in a slump resulting in very subpar results by their standard. Federer was losing finals to Hewitt and Montanes in 2010. :lol:
And Djokovic was hitting more double faults than anybody on the tour, losing to players with not even half his talent and couldn't beat anybody in the top 10 for around 8 months! Murray also was in a slump after his loss to Federer at AO 2010.
Basically the path was clear for Rafa to win everything that year. No other challengers stood in his way.:)
 
WOW... I dont know if you know a lot about tennis. Did you see Nadal at USO'11 and AO'12? Nadal is fitter than ever, ask anybody

Nadal USO 2011 fought so hard in that 3rd set just to survive, he was spent in the 4th set and couldn't even return WTA level serving from Djokovic.:confused:
 
The OP is being a huge Nadal hater, which is surprising. True Nadal fans know that he will win at least 45 more slams, and probably much more than that.

Not really. The OP question includes the idea of Nadal having 14 slams, which means, that he should have won by that point in time 56 + his current 10 Majors. That puts him at 66 Majors, which is not, by any stretch of imagination, unrealistic.

:)
 
When he hits 14 slams?

Shouldn't it be

IF he hits 14 slams?
 
Nadal only won ONE slam in 2009, then won 3 slams in a row in 2010. Nadal only won ONE slam in 2011, about to win 3 slams in a row in 2012? Seems like he needs an "off-year" to get motivated. He looks more motivated now than ever, and is playing twice as well this year than he was last year on clay. Also had his 2nd best Australian Open ever, this year. Don't be surprised if he's going for THE RAFA SLAM at the Australian Open next year.

Nadal looked awesome in Barcelona last year. He only allowed Ferrer 6 games in the final and Ferrer was playing well in that tournament.
I think Rafa is at a stage now in his career where we can only judge him tournament to tournament as opposed to looking at his form and envisioning him to take that same form into the next 8 tournaments. It's not really going to happen for him now at almost age 26 when he's more and more having mental lapses, going from offense to suddenly defense when he loses faith in his game and starts standing 15' behind the baseline. Nadal is only 1 loss away from losing his confidence again.
 
The OP is being a huge Nadal hater, which is surprising. True Nadal fans know that he will win at least 45 more slams, and probably much more than that. Nadal is also making huge strides in ending the Middle east crises, and promoting a brotherhood of man.
No no, by slams OP of course meant Grand Slams which mean four majors each, not the watered down current usage. So multiply 14 by 4 (I don't have my calculator nearby so...).
 
Seems strange to me that Rafa's fans all think that Novak Djokovic has suddenly retired. :lol:
Djokovic is Nadal's biggest rival on all surfaces and Djokovic is going to respond in a big way once he's got his mind back onto tennis. Djokovic looked awful in every match after news broke out of his grandfather's death in Monte Carlo.
 
Nadal looked awesome in Barcelona last year. He only allowed Ferrer 6 games in the final and Ferrer was playing well in that tournament.
I think Rafa is at a stage now in his career where we can only judge him tournament to tournament as opposed to looking at his form and envisioning him to take that same form into the next 8 tournaments. It's not really going to happen for him now at almost age 26 when he's more and more having mental lapses, going from offense to suddenly defense when he loses faith in his game and starts standing 15' behind the baseline. Nadal is only 1 loss away from losing his confidence again.
Excellent post, as usual.

Nadal is getting better by leaps and bounds. I think by Madrid dropping sets would be forgotten and we will be counting how many games he will drop in an entire tournament.

By next year, it will be games per season, or maybe even points, but let's not get ahead of ourselves.
 
Why is anyone even taking this guy seriously? He acts as though winning 14 majors on the men's tour is somehow easy...

To date only two men have done it, and apparently NSK thinks that a win over a CLEARLY struggling Djokovic means that Djokovic won't stop Rafa at majors from here on out. That's ludicrous to me..

We shall see how the clay season goes, and IF Nadal can win RG. Wimbledon nor the USO should even be in discussion right now.

But if Rafa wins MORE than 1 major this year, I'd be surprised.
 
Nadal only won ONE slam in 2009, then won 3 slams in a row in 2010. Nadal only won ONE slam in 2011, about to win 3 slams in a row in 2012? Seems like he needs an "off-year" to get motivated. He looks more motivated now than ever, and is playing twice as well this year than he was last year on clay. Also had his 2nd best Australian Open ever, this year. Don't be surprised if he's going for THE RAFA SLAM at the Australian Open next year.

What about 05, 06, and 07? All one slam years. Should have motivation no?
 
TBH, i really do think Nadal has atleast 2+ years left in him.

Blah Blah Blah Yadda Yadda Yadda.
Been hearing this same f*cking Bullsh*t for years now.
Logical Tennis Sports Brains are so sick of this every goddam year.
Psychotic.
Nothing Personal.
 
Back
Top