How many slams will Alcaraz win?

How many slams will Alcaraz win in the future?

  • 5-6

    Votes: 19 20.9%

  • 8-10

    Votes: 28 30.8%

  • 10-20

    Votes: 30 33.0%

  • 20-30

    Votes: 17 18.7%
  • Total voters
    91
CHillTennis said:
2005 Nadal would have already won at least 3 slams.

This is the weakest field, that I have seen, since I started following tennis in 2005.
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At the exact same age in years and months, Nadal had 1 slam. Like Alcaraz does now. Nadal will go on to win RG in 2006 at 20, but Alcaraz still has chances to get to number 2 in Wimbledon or US Open
 
BeatlesFan said:
Wait a second. I followed Carlos in his junior career, he never cramped. In fact, he has cramped in exactly one professional match and honestly explained why that happened. You claiming it's genetics and will be a long term problem is simply ridiculous. He cramped one time in his entire career and that was nerves, not "genetics."

Djoker quit many matches when young because be was exhausted and we all know he turned that around. The player who has had long-term cramping issues, including the juniors, is Rune. In fact, he's cramped on court three times this year already.

Back to OP's question - tennis will return to normal expectations after Djoker retires. 6-8 slams was a phenomenal career, Pete with 14 was considered GOAT. Alcaraz will likely end up with 8-10 majors. But its way too early to know.
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No he also cramped up badly in the FAA match at USO 21, and iirc was struggling a bit vs Berrettini at AO 22 (though that was probably just fatigue)
 
Alcaraz takeover said:
At the exact same age in years and months, Nadal had 1 slam. Like Alcaraz does now. Nadal will go on to win RG in 2006 at 20, but Alcaraz still has chances to get to number 2 in Wimbledon or US Open
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That's not how it works. 17 years ago 20 year old Rafa had 2 slams to his name, while the hyped up Carlos disappointed in back to back years at RG.
 
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Djokovic will stop him





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Father and Son
 
Alcaraz takeover said:
How many GS did Nadal win in 2006? He won 1. 2023 is not yet over. Not sure what you're talking about
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He is comparing a GS QF win against a washed up Sampras to Alcaraz who already has a slam :D

Roger clearly was mediocre until he won a slam at almost 22 and yet the way the Sampras win is hyped is quite appalling.
 
Alcaraz takeover said:
At the exact same age in years and months, Nadal had 1 slam. Like Alcaraz does now. Nadal will go on to win RG in 2006 at 20, but Alcaraz still has chances to get to number 2 in Wimbledon or US Open
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Because Nadal actually played in a strong era. And he beat peak Federer in order to win that RG 2005. That Nadal would have definitely beaten a 36 years old Djokovic, at worst case in 4 sets. Anyone who claims at this point that Alcaraz is even comparable to young Nadal, leave alone better, should not be taken seriously. The "more complete player" should first learn to play for longer than 2 sets. Put him in 2005-2006, he wouldn't even be relevant.
 
Shaolin said:
Infinity is kind of a stretch with the sun running out of hydrogen, turning into a red giant and eventually destroying Earth.

Carlos has about 5 billion years to rack up slams until that happens though.
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I doubt humans will let the sun live that long as long as they start building the Dyson swarm.
 
Djokodalerer31 said:
I don't believe that for one second...he cramps will become a long term preoblem, like Del Potro and Nadal were injury prone, so will be Alcaraz...it's just his genetics...so i'll say 8-10 slam range is generous prediction for him...others will win less, so he'll spearhead his generation regardless, but the gap won't be as big as people expect! We are likely entering yet another Lendl/Wilander/Edberg/Becker esque mid 80's-early 90's period...
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Nadal is not injury prone

Look at the timing of his "injuries" and you can see it's largely him taking strategic breaks to be maximally fit for the clay season

Or, there might be more insidious reasons for his absences. But I won't say it because Rafa is gonna sue
 
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Carlos is great, and I can see 8-10, but I wouldn't think that's even close to guaranteed. Heck, 5-6 isn't even guaranteed. I get that we're coming off of a super era with three 20+ Slam champions, but I don't think that's the new norm. I don't think every generation is destined to have someone win 20+ or even 15+ Slams. The Big 3 era makes us forget that even 10 Slams is a lot.
 
jm1980 said:
Nadal is not injury prone

Look at the timing of his "injuries" and you can see it's largely him taking strategic breaks to be maximally fit for the clay season

Or, there might be more insidious reasons for his absences. But I won't say it because Rafa is gonna sue
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Best take I've seen on the subject in a long time. No one wins 22 slams with a "fragile" body.
 
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StrongRule said:
Because Nadal actually played in a strong era. And he beat peak Federer in order to win that RG 2005. That Nadal would have definitely beaten a 36 years old Djokovic, at worst case in 4 sets. Anyone who claims at this point that Alcaraz is even comparable to young Nadal, leave alone better, should not be taken seriously. The "more complete player" should first learn to play for longer than 2 sets. Put him in 2005-2006, he wouldn't even be relevant.
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Nadal from the 2004 Davis Cup final would be enough to beat the veteran version of Djokovic.
:D
 
Alcaraz takeover said:
How many GS did Nadal win in 2006? He won 1. 2023 is not yet over. Not sure what you're talking about
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I'm just saying that at this point, Rafa had a total of 2 GS to his name.

Carlos can still win a slam this year, of course, but odds are not in his favorite as no one has defended the USO since Federer in 2008.
 
bluetrain4 said:
Carlos is great, and I can see 8-10, but I wouldn't think that's even close to guaranteed. Heck, 5-6 isn't even guaranteed. I get that we're coming off of a super era with three 20+ Slam champions, but I don't think that's the new norm.
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Carlos is a great player and it's ridiculous that on TTW, a career of 8 slams is routinely dismissed as garbage. The disrespect is off the charts for legends like Connors, Lendl and Agassi (all ATG's) who had 8 slams because the field was so strong in their era. There's lots of other factors too, such as the AO not even being played by Borg, Connors and countless others.

The chances for Alcaraz reaching 20+ slams is about 1%, but he will win multiple slams unless he sustains a career ending injury.
 
Nobody predicted Djokovic would win so many slams but look at how much he has won. Carlos looks incredibly talented and so many are already predicting him to win lots of slams. I just hope it won't be a letdown if he doesn't.
 
Bull won 14 in one tournament so I don't see how a talent like Alcaraz can not win a total 15 in all four tournaments.

18-25 is what I believe he ends up with.

I'll be extremely shocked if he doesn't win 15 at least.

Kralingen said:
10-20

Everyone is so shortsighted on here.
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DIMI_D said:
10min- 25+ range

I think he gets 20+
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Alcaraz takeover said:
He's already better than the big 4 at a similar age. I'm going for 20+ I don't give a f*ck
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Those people here get it. (y)
 
mike danny said:
He'll probably win plenty.

But Carlos has to prove that it's because he's truly great and not because it will be a weak era.
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Ha? One could have said exactly the same about Fed at his beginnings.

So tell me how did Federer prove he won plenty because he was truly great and not because of a weak era.
 
btsjungkook said:
Nobody predicted Djokovic would win so many slams but look at how much he has won. Carlos looks incredibly talented and so many are already predicting him to win lots of slams. I just hope it won't be a letdown if he doesn't.
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I predicted after seeing him beat Roger convincingly at AO 2008.
 
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Prediction is not eay, I predicted 6-7 slam for Hewiit and 5-6 for Safin and both prediction blew back on my face
 
DSH said:
When will the decline of the Serbian player begin?
:cautious:
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Unfortunately not now, he still has his movement and speed with him and he frustrates the opponents in his lockdown mode and they leak error or their will get broken. He just refuses to slow down like an old man
 
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UnforcedTerror said:
Ha? One could have said exactly the same about Fed at his beginnings.

So tell me how did Federer prove he won plenty because he was truly great and not because of a weak era.
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At least he beat Sampras in Wimbledon 2001, not was physically done after 2 sets. And that wasn't even a 36 years old Sampras.
 
Kralingen said:
10-20

Everyone is so shortsighted on here. Whatever you think of Djokovic and Carlos’s so called collapse against him, I can guarantee Novak will NOT be stopping him everywhere in 2026 (at which point he will be 22/23 years old, and Djokovic/Nadal will be 39/40).

The amount of mug slams in the mid to late 2020s is way way larger than any of you realize.

2025-2030: 24 Slams up for grabs.

54 Masters. 6 YECs. 312 weeks at #1.

Someone is going to have to win those. The inflated stat counts of the NextGen are going to legitimately blow people’s minds.
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Agree on all that, actually no matter WHEN Djokovic will finally stop dominating. Because Alcaraz will have many many years after that in any case. And if he is going to be the main face of "Next Gen" and be a dominant force as many predict, then 6 Slams or something like that (as some also predict, DESPITE rating him in high regard) would be incredibly weak.

Look, he would actually win one Slam every second season (or even less) then, despite "dominating"? Delivering once and failing seven times? Always? For 10 years in a row? And imagine he wins just two in a row for once, then it would need to be FOUR years until the next one on average!

People forget how weak the career statistics of those 6-8 Slam winners often look outside their actual titles. Alcaraz will most likely be too consistent to NOT win 10 Slams or more if he really has the peak that many see him having.

Just as one example for a 6 Slam winner, look at Becker's career statistics and the absurd number of first week losses at Slams.

Boris Becker career statistics - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org en.wikipedia.org

Will Alcaraz become such a player? Very unlikely. And if so, he will certainly be called a MUG here. Heck, he would actually be with HALF of those losses.
 
StrongRule said:
At least he beat Sampras in Wimbledon 2001, not was physically done after 2 sets. And that wasn't even a 36 years old Sampras.
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Yeah fossil Sampras who would only win one more match at Wimbledon after his match against Fed. Imagine comparing that Sampras to current Djokovic who is still force to be reckoned with. Let's also ignore that Fed's win would end up for a naught after losing to a much inferior player than Sampras the next day. You guys are hypocrites but I can understand the desperation lol
 
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StrongRule said:
At least he beat Sampras in Wimbledon 2001, not was physically done after 2 sets. And that wasn't even a 36 years old Sampras.
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Fed lost to qualifier in 2002 Wimbledon first round , lost to Agassi in US Open in straight set on fast surface and lost to done and dusted Guga on clay again in straight set when he was number one
 
UnforcedTerror said:
Yeah fossil Sampras who would only win one more match at Wimbledon after his match against Fed. Imagine comparing that Sampras to current Djokovic who is still force to be reckoned with. Let's also ignore that Fed's win would end up for a naught since he lost the next round to a much inferior player than Sampras. You guys are hypocrites but I can understand the desperation lol
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Sampras was in very bad form and apart from IW he was not playing good at all, I don't know how many people remember his match against Cowan.
This is why his 2001 us open was special, when he took down Rafter, Agassi and Safin back to back in spite of playing bad all year
 
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Alcaraz will win 10-15 slams probably.

Only Novak can stop him rn but he"ll be 37-38 next year so time is on Carlitos side.
 
I voted 8-10 due to questions around his long term durability. His style is so physical that early on, he's more vulnerable to injuries as we've seen. Longer term, his forehand will likely decline if his timing starts declining in older age or if other up and comers start hitting big to that wing. It's already clear that opponents who take his time away by going big to his forehand wing can evoke errors since he has such a fast swing and needs enough time to consistently hit those bombs.
 
Why is there no option for 1 slam?
Alcaraz will not win anything until Novak retires.
And at that time you will have more contenders.
 
Tweener said:
I voted 8-10 due to questions around his long term durability. His style is so physical that early on, he's more vulnerable to injuries as we've seen. Longer term, his forehand will likely decline if his timing starts declining in older age or if other up and comers start hitting big to that wing. It's already clear that opponents who take his time away by going big to his forehand wing can evoke errors since he has such a fast swing and needs enough time to consistently hit those bombs.
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His style is less physical than Nadal and Djokovic
 
mike danny said:
Fir starters, he overcame the ATGs before him in Sampras and Agassi.
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An almost-20 year old Federer handled the nerves of facing/beating the 4-time defending champion 29 year old Sampras at Wimbledon...ending Pete's title haul at seven. 20 year old Alcaraz couldn't handle the nerves of facing 36 year old Djokovic at the Australian Open? No, Rolling Garros! It was a huge blow to him being "truly great".

But he can redeem himself with NO more slam losses to Nole, and considering the times, there will be many more slam meetings.
 
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