How many Slams will current Open era players Accumulate during their careers?

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Well heres a thread on predicting how many slams current gen players will accumulate to the end of their careers.Here are MY predictions.The first statement next to the players will indicate my prediction,whereas in brackets it is a range of how many.

Roger Federer - 12 Grand Slams(11-16) Unfortunately Sampras will probably not be surpassed as in around 3-4 years there will be a new breed of players that will take him(if not Nadal). He will win wimby a few more times but not CONSECUTIVELY like Sampras's 7.a few more Aus and Us opens will be his too.Is going to be Masters Series King and overtake Agassi's record.I dont think he'll win the french.

Rafael Nadal - 5 Slams (3-7) I think Nadal will have around 3-4 French opens and maybe an Aus or Us open to boot.His career will be plagued simliar to Chang but better.Can imagine him being the being the king of clay for a few years at Least and a Master Series Specialist like Roger.He is in with a chance of coming v.close Agassi's AMS crown.

Andy Roddick - 4 Slams (3-7) Like Nadal,Roddick will have a small grand slam:talent ratio.He is capable of winning Wimby(if Fed falls or isnt ON)and a few Us opens.

lleyton Hewitt - 6 Slams(4-8) His career took a nosedive in 2003,but came back to make 2 finals,in which he was really outplayed by players who nearly unstoppable. He can win 1 more wimby,but his best bets are looking like the Us opens,maybe 1 Aus open.

Marat Safin - 4 Slams (3-7) Unfortunately there are many things that WILL stop Safin from making a Major hall of GS.His injuries such as his knee will take a toll,and he's not a small guy who is light.But he will win another hardcourt GS and Possibly a french if everyone is not firing.Talent wasted.

David NAlbandian 3 Slams(2-5) Not because he Beat Roger in the year end MAsters,but this guy like ROddick and Hewitt are consistent performers at GS,and he is bound to win a GS one day and that will elevate him to more success,however i cant see more than 3 grand slams.

Richard Gasquet - 5 Slams(3-7) to be honest this is the guy who WILL be the leader along with Nadal in the new breed of younger genration players.They will outshine,Monfils,Murray,Andreev,Berdych,Bagjdatis and others who come up.

Juan Carlos Ferrero/Guillermo Coria- 2 Slams each(2-4) These guy are contenders to the French for lets say another 4-5 years and will collect 4 between them.

Note: these are for the top players currently,and others are not included who will win grand slams or a 1 Hit wonder,but these are the only firm predictons as of now.


Give us your opinions...........
 
Roger Federer-16 slams(14-18)-He will be challenged more by the younger generation after a couple of years, will keep winning at that point but perhaps at lesser pace. Right now he will keep winning often. Probably about 7-8 Wimbledons, 3-4 at both Aussie and U.S Open, and possably 1 French Open.

Rafael Nadal-5 slam(4-7)-Probably has a few more French Opens left in him, and atleast 1 hard court slam in his career.

Lleyton Hewitt-2 slams(2-2)-No more slams for Hewitt, but will stay a contender for a couple more years.

Andy Roddick-1 slam(1-1)-Andy too has won his last slam probably, but like Hewitt will stay near top a couple more years.

Marat Safin-3 slams(2-4)-The wildy talented, but erratic Russian, will come out of woodwork once more to win another.

David Nalbandian-2 slams(1-3)-His big win in the Masters final will give him confidence to become a more serious contender than he has already been.

Richard Gasquet-2 slams(1-4)-Alot of talent, but I dont think he has the work ethic or will of somebody like Nadal, might get it eventually.

Thomas Berdych-3 slams(2-3)-Is coming into his own this year, and has a brilliant future. Great technical strokes, and great attitude competing.
 
Turning Pro, I think you are predicting too many slams for many of these players. There are only so many slams to go around and you are predicting 30 slams here, which accounts for the next 7 and a half years of slams. This would be ok, but 21 of these slams are predicted for players that are not young. That is over 5 years of slams. Besides Federer, I really doubt that any of these players have a chance to win a major in more than 5 years, so that would mean that just to make your predictions work, those players would need to win all the slams for the next 5 and a quarter years, which is extremely unlikely as Nadal is highly likely to win his slams in the next 5 years as well. If Gasquet is going to win slams, it is unlikely he will wait 5 years until the current top players finish getting their slams. So all in all, you need to realize how few slams there are to go around when making these kinds of predictions.

Federerhoogenbangfan's picks seem much more reasonable, except with a possible slight bias for Federer. I say this because he puts the low end of the range at 14, so he is saying that Federer at least equals Sampras record which is no small feat at all.

That said, here are my predictions:

Federer-13 slams (10-16) I think Roger has a good chance to break or equal the record, but I would put his chances at a bit less than 50/50 as he has quite a ways to go. I hope he at least wins the French for the career grand slam.

Nadal-5 slams (3-7) I think Nadal has some more French Opens left in him and possibly one AO.

Roddick-1 slam (1-2) I don't think Roddick will win another slam, but I think he has a shot at wimbledon next year if Federer is out with injury or upset early. If he does not win wimbledon next year, I highly doubt he will win another.

Hewitt- 3 slams (2-4) Hewitt has been extremely consistent in the grand slams but unable to break through. I think he has one more left in him, possibly 2.

Nalbandian- 1 slam (0-2) I think Nalbandian has shown a resurgance at this years masters cup and is certainly capable of contending in the slams. I liken his chances of winning slams to Hewitt, although Hewitt already has 2.

Safin - 3 slams (2-3) I agree with what someone else said, Safin will come out of the woodwork one more time in his career to take a slam, but he will not contend in nearly as many as the guys above.

It is really hard to predict the young guys I feel. I think Gasquet is capable of being an all time great or being a wasted talent. I will predict 6 slams for Gasquet, 1 slam for Berdych, 2 slams for Monfils, and I don't see any of the other young guys winning a slam right now. I will have to wait a few years before feeling at all confident in my predictions of these younger unproven guys.

Also, I think it is extremely unlikely that Ferrero or Coria will win another slam. Ferrero will never return to his 2003 form and Coria missed his best chance. Now the FO is much more competitive than when he was in the final.
 
I disagree with you Steve in regards to Coria. I think practically the reason he even plays tennis is to win the French. I'll agree that its getting more and more competetive during the clay court season, but who is better than Coria on clay? Nadal... and thats it. Gaudio is a little too inconsistent and he breaks down too much. Puerta same thing. I think Coria will win atleast one French Open.
 
Matthew said:
I'll agree that its getting more and more competetive during the clay court season, but who is better than Coria on clay? Nadal... and thats it.
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Federer is better than Coria on clay, he has won both of their meetings on clay fairly easily. I think Gasquet has more potential than Coria on clay and will pass Coria by this year as well. I think it is a combination of Coria's game going downhill a little bit as well as the top claycourters improving which will make it very difficult for Coria to win a FO.
 
Interesting post!

I think it is extremely difficult to predict especially when you factor in the amount of injuries in the game. It is unlikely that both Fed and Nadal will share 8 AMS titles between them in 06 as injuries look like being a consistent trend in the ATP.

Another factor is player burn out. Historically top tennis players burn out by mid to late 20's. Players like Sampras, Becker, Edberg, Mcenroe and Borg were all washed up slam wise in their late 20's. A lot of the players in the predictions could easily burn out especially with the demanding schedule and the physical demands of the ATP.

Next we have the situation of unknown and unheralded champions coming through. Take for example Michael Stitch, Gustavo Kurten, Tommy Johanssen, Gaston Gaudio, Albert Costa to name but a few. This situation is very common in the men's game especially at the French Open where upsets are common and most players tend to win thier first slam at the French Open.
Your predictions suggest that well known or talented juniors will dominate but tennis history suggests there will be a few surprises along the way.
 
Steve Dykstra said:
Federerhoogenbangfan's picks seem much more reasonable, except with a possible slight bias for Federer. I say this because he puts the low end of the range at 14, so he is saying that Federer at least equals Sampras record which is no small feat at all.
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I will say part of my reasoning was I looked at a list of about 15+ all time greats and found the majority, not just a few but a majority, won their last slams after 30, and the majority seemed to be still in their extended absolute prime to 28 atleast or beyond. Perhaps I am not taking into account how much the game is changing from a physical standpoint however. That being said both Sampras and Agassi were in their primes to 28 or older(Agassi older)and won slams after 30, but that is just 2 examples, which is not the same as say 11 out of 16 accomplishing that.
 
I also agree that Ferrero will never win another grand slam. It is good to see him coming back and playing well, and I believe he still has alot of good tennis left in him. However in the year he was battling injuries and confidence issues, the game has passed him by a bit, 2003 will always be his peak year.

Coria is a great clay court player, the problem is his game is too defensive and neutral oriented. He does not have decisive enough offense for todays game, where even the leading clay courters can break open points better than they used to, and he doesnt have that ability. When plays Nadal it is quite obvious, and it is the biggest difference between them, often times he would open up the court but he wouldnt have the abilty to drive the ball away and had to try and hit a drop shot to win the point, and had it shoved down his throat again and again by Nadal who is too quick for regular drop shot use.
 
Fed: 15-18 slams

Safin: 1 more maybe

Roddick: 1 more (If Fed is injured or bored)

Nalbo: 1

Nadal: no idea. Depends on Feds dominance

Gasquet/Berdych: see above
 
federerhoogenbandfan said:
I also agree that Ferrero will never win another grand slam. It is good to see him coming back and playing well, and I believe he still has alot of good tennis left in him. However in the year he was battling injuries and confidence issues, the game has passed him by a bit, 2003 will always be his peak year.

Coria is a great clay court player, the problem is his game is too defensive and neutral oriented. He does not have decisive enough offense for todays game, where even the leading clay courters can break open points better than they used to, and he doesnt have that ability. When plays Nadal it is quite obvious, and it is the biggest difference between them, often times he would open up the court but he wouldnt have the abilty to drive the ball away and had to try and hit a drop shot to win the point, and had it shoved down his throat again and again by Nadal who is too quick for regular drop shot use.
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I wouldn't write off Ferrero yet. We cannot say that Ferrero is done for the rest of his career unless he gets back to his 2003 level and STILL gets beat by Coria and Nadal on clay (clay, because RG will always be his easiest slam to play). If that happens, then yes his grand slam winning days are over. However, this year was a recovery year for him, physically (from the chicken pox, which causes adults to lose a lot of weight and strength for about a year sometimes) and mentally as well from all of the beatings he had to endure last year.
Next year, it all depends on his clay court season. The big reason why 2003 turned out to be a fantastic year for him was mainly because he dominated the clay and finally won RG, which lifted a huge burden off his mind, I can imagine. That allowed him to play very well for the rest of the year.
A lot of people say the game has passed Ferrero by, but none of you explain how exactly. In 2003 the game was full of fast/power baseliners, yet it seems like there are even more nowadays, so I don't see why he suddenly won't be able to compete with today's players.
 
Mr Topspin said:
Interesting post!

I think it is extremely difficult to predict especially when you factor in the amount of injuries in the game. It is unlikely that both Fed and Nadal will share 8 AMS titles between them in 06 as injuries look like being a consistent trend in the ATP.

Another factor is player burn out. Historically top tennis players burn out by mid to late 20's. Players like Sampras, Becker, Edberg, Mcenroe and Borg were all washed up slam wise in their late 20's. A lot of the players in the predictions could easily burn out especially with the demanding schedule and the physical demands of the ATP.

Next we have the situation of unknown and unheralded champions coming through. Take for example Michael Stitch, Gustavo Kurten, Tommy Johanssen, Gaston Gaudio, Albert Costa to name but a few. This situation is very common in the men's game especially at the French Open where upsets are common and most players tend to win thier first slam at the French Open.
Your predictions suggest that well known or talented juniors will dominate but tennis history suggests there will be a few surprises along the way.
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Sampras was washed up slam wise by his late 20s? Sampras was year-end #1 for a record 6th time as a 28-year old in 1998. In 1999 Sampras won Wimbledon with one of his best ever performances in the final vs Agassi, and was heavily favored to win the U.S Open that same year due to a long summer winning streak before a herniated disc forced him out, and then won the year-end final in dominant fashion over Agassi in the final again, this done the year he turned 29. In 2000 he won a record 13th slam title and a 7th Wimbledon, won the biggest non-slam event(other than the year-end final perhaps)Nasdaq, lost an incredable Aussie Open semi to Agassi who won the title comfortably in the final, and was a U.S Open finalist losing to Safin. Even as a 31-year old he was finalist at the U.S Open, and a 32-year old winner at the U.S Open, although I could see the argument that he didnt really do anything else those two years, and they were just incredable performances a bit out of the blue that symbolized his greatness. However up until age 30 at the very least, he certainly was an extremely large slam threat, and a big threat for the World #1 ranking.
 
Steve Dykstra said:
Turning Pro, I think you are predicting too many slams for many of these players.
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This is why i put a range in so it can swing back and forth if some1 slips up,however i still think people like hewitt and roddick will end up with a couple more majors each.I think gasquet,hewitt and safin will end up winning more gs's later on in their career(gasquet 21-25).
 
federerhoogenbandfan said:
Sampras was washed up slam wise by his late 20s? Sampras was year-end #1 for a record 6th time as a 28-year old in 1998. In 1999 Sampras won Wimbledon with one of his best ever performances in the final vs Agassi, and was heavily favored to win the U.S Open that same year due to a long summer winning streak before a herniated disc forced him out, and then won the year-end final in dominant fashion over Agassi in the final again, this done the year he turned 29. In 2000 he won a record 13th slam title and a 7th Wimbledon, won the biggest non-slam event(other than the year-end final perhaps)Nasdaq, lost an incredable Aussie Open semi to Agassi who won the title comfortably in the final, and was a U.S Open finalist losing to Safin. Even as a 31-year old he was finalist at the U.S Open, and a 32-year old winner at the U.S Open, although I could see the argument that he didnt really do anything else those two years, and they were just incredable performances a bit out of the blue that symbolized his greatness. However up until age 30 at the very least, he certainly was an extremely large slam threat, and a big threat for the World #1 ranking.
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Your points are well made!

However, the point i'm making is that Sampras amongst many other players of his ilk were pretty burnt up towards their late 20's. I do accept they were momentary flashes of brilliance which resulted in him winning Wimbledon 2000 and US Open 02. But lets face it Sampras was past his best during this period unlike Agassi, Laver and Connors in their formative years on tour. Those guys are IMHO exception to the rule.
 
Mr Topspin said:
Your points are well made!

However, the point i'm making is that Sampras amongst many other players of his ilk were pretty burnt up towards their late 20's. I do accept they were momentary flashes of brilliance which resulted in him winning Wimbledon 2000 and US Open 02. But lets face it Sampras was past his best during this period unlike Agassi, Laver and Connors in their formative years on tour. Those guys are IMHO exception to the rule.
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Fair enough. I thought Sampras was arguably slightly past his prime starting in 98 when he was still 27, although I must say the tennis he played the summer in 99 as a 28/29-year old(his birthday was during that summer) might have been his best tennis ever before the unfortunate back injury before the U.S Open.
 
Turning Pro said:
Well heres a thread on predicting how many slams current gen players will accumulate to the end of their careers.Here are MY predictions.The first statement next to the players will indicate my prediction,whereas in brackets it is a range of how many.

Roger Federer - 12 Grand Slams(11-16) Unfortunately Sampras will probably not be surpassed as in around 3-4 years there will be a new breed of players that will take him(if not Nadal). He will win wimby a few more times but not CONSECUTIVELY like Sampras's 7.a few more Aus and Us opens will be his too.Is going to be Masters Series King and overtake Agassi's record.I dont think he'll win the french.

Rafael Nadal - 5 Slams (3-7) I think Nadal will have around 3-4 French opens and maybe an Aus or Us open to boot.His career will be plagued simliar to Chang but better.Can imagine him being the being the king of clay for a few years at Least and a Master Series Specialist like Roger.He is in with a chance of coming v.close Agassi's AMS crown.

Andy Roddick - 4 Slams (3-7) Like Nadal,Roddick will have a small grand slam:talent ratio.He is capable of winning Wimby(if Fed falls or isnt ON)and a few Us opens.

lleyton Hewitt - 6 Slams(4-8) His career took a nosedive in 2003,but came back to make 2 finals,in which he was really outplayed by players who nearly unstoppable. He can win 1 more wimby,but his best bets are looking like the Us opens,maybe 1 Aus open.

Marat Safin - 4 Slams (3-7) Unfortunately there are many things that WILL stop Safin from making a Major hall of GS.His injuries such as his knee will take a toll,and he's not a small guy who is light.But he will win another hardcourt GS and Possibly a french if everyone is not firing.Talent wasted.

David NAlbandian 3 Slams(2-5) Not because he Beat Roger in the year end MAsters,but this guy like ROddick and Hewitt are consistent performers at GS,and he is bound to win a GS one day and that will elevate him to more success,however i cant see more than 3 grand slams.

Richard Gasquet - 5 Slams(3-7) to be honest this is the guy who WILL be the leader along with Nadal in the new breed of younger genration players.They will outshine,Monfils,Murray,Andreev,Berdych,Bagjdatis and others who come up.

Juan Carlos Ferrero/Guillermo Coria- 2 Slams each(2-4) These guy are contenders to the French for lets say another 4-5 years and will collect 4 between them.

Note: these are for the top players currently,and others are not included who will win grand slams or a 1 Hit wonder,but these are the only firm predictons as of now.


Give us your opinions...........
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Predictable fail by the Turning Troll. Gasquet winning 5 slams and Hewitt 6 slams. :lol:
 
federerhoogenbandfan said:
Rafael Nadal-5 slam(4-7)-Probably has a few more French Opens left in him, and atleast 1 hard court slam in his career.

Thomas Berdych-3 slams(2-3)-Is coming into his own this year, and has a brilliant future. Great technical strokes, and great attitude competing.
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Only an idiot would think Berdych was going to get only 2 less slams than Rafa Nadal.
 
Turning Pro said:
Well heres a thread on predicting how many slams current gen players will accumulate to the end of their careers.Here are MY predictions.The first statement next to the players will indicate my prediction,whereas in brackets it is a range of how many.

Roger Federer - 12 Grand Slams(11-16) Unfortunately Sampras will probably not be surpassed as in around 3-4 years there will be a new breed of players that will take him(if not Nadal). He will win wimby a few more times but not CONSECUTIVELY like Sampras's 7.a few more Aus and Us opens will be his too.Is going to be Masters Series King and overtake Agassi's record.I dont think he'll win the french.

Rafael Nadal - 5 Slams (3-7) I think Nadal will have around 3-4 French opens and maybe an Aus or Us open to boot.His career will be plagued simliar to Chang but better.Can imagine him being the being the king of clay for a few years at Least and a Master Series Specialist like Roger.He is in with a chance of coming v.close Agassi's AMS crown.

Andy Roddick - 4 Slams (3-7) Like Nadal,Roddick will have a small grand slam:talent ratio.He is capable of winning Wimby(if Fed falls or isnt ON)and a few Us opens.

lleyton Hewitt - 6 Slams(4-8) His career took a nosedive in 2003,but came back to make 2 finals,in which he was really outplayed by players who nearly unstoppable. He can win 1 more wimby,but his best bets are looking like the Us opens,maybe 1 Aus open.

Marat Safin - 4 Slams (3-7) Unfortunately there are many things that WILL stop Safin from making a Major hall of GS.His injuries such as his knee will take a toll,and he's not a small guy who is light.But he will win another hardcourt GS and Possibly a french if everyone is not firing.Talent wasted.

David NAlbandian 3 Slams(2-5) Not because he Beat Roger in the year end MAsters,but this guy like ROddick and Hewitt are consistent performers at GS,and he is bound to win a GS one day and that will elevate him to more success,however i cant see more than 3 grand slams.

Richard Gasquet - 5 Slams(3-7) to be honest this is the guy who WILL be the leader along with Nadal in the new breed of younger genration players.They will outshine,Monfils,Murray,Andreev,Berdych,Bagjdatis and others who come up.

Juan Carlos Ferrero/Guillermo Coria- 2 Slams each(2-4) These guy are contenders to the French for lets say another 4-5 years and will collect 4 between them.

Note: these are for the top players currently,and others are not included who will win grand slams or a 1 Hit wonder,but these are the only firm predictons as of now.


Give us your opinions...........
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I cant believe anyone predicted Gasquet to end up with the same # of slams as Nadal and Hewitt more!?!
 
In defense of Turning Pro, there will probably be as much fail involved if the current posters made predictions about the current players and we come back to it in four years.
 
akv89 said:
In defense of Turning Pro, there will probably be as much fail involved if the current posters made predictions about the current players and we come back to it in four years.
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I doubt that. It would be pretty much impossible to come up with as major a fail as Turning Pro did here.
 
lambielspins said:
I doubt that. It would be pretty much impossible to come up with as major a fail as Turning Pro did here.
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Depends on who you're asking. I don't doubt that there are people on this forum who believe that Federer will win 25 majors or that Nadal will win 15. These numbers sound ridiculous now, imagine how much fail they will gain in interest over four years :)
 
akv89 said:
Depends on who you're asking. I don't doubt that there are people on this forum who believe that Federer will win 25 majors or that Nadal will win 15. These numbers sound ridiculous now, imagine how much fail they will gain in interest over four years :)
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Someone should start another thread in that case.
 
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