Omega_7000
Legend
What if Nadal played all his finals against Davy instead of Federer...What would the outcome be for Nadal?
This post got me thinking...
This post got me thinking...
How many Slams would Nadal have if Davydenko had been as dedicated as Federer/Nole?
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BrooklynNY
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There is evidence to show that Nadal would reverse this h2h if they played more matches.
He did reverse a 7 match losing streak in finals to Djoker, I understand Davydenko is another type of beast, but Nadal rises to every challenge regarding main rivals and slams
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He did reverse a 7 match losing streak in finals to Djoker, I understand Davydenko is another type of beast, but Nadal rises to every challenge regarding main rivals and slams
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stereotypes
New User
Well lets see, Davydenko in any form or dedictation is no threat to Nadal at Roland Garros or Wimbledon so that is already 10 of Nadal's current 13 slams. As for the hard court slams there are lots of people to take out Davydenko before he even reaches Nadal- Federer, Djokovic, Murray, Blake, Ljubicic, Roddick, and countless others he has trouble with, and Nadal has only won his hard court slams when he has been at his very best which would be too much for Davydenko over a best of 5 anyway. So the answer is 13 currently, just as is.
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TheAnty-vic
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Pretty pathetic but age old habit of Federer fans to cling on to Davydenko's hair, to try to bring Rafa down! Now that he has gone completely bald, they're hanging by his pubes! :lol:
Anyways since Davy is of Federer's generation, if he had worked harder, he would have probably stolen some slams from GOATerer himself!! :twisted:
Anyways since Davy is of Federer's generation, if he had worked harder, he would have probably stolen some slams from GOATerer himself!! :twisted:
Crose
Professional
It really is sad. It's their best way of easing the H2H pain.
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monfed
Guest
Zero HC slams and if Davy worked on his grass game, then Ralph would only have RGs.
KillerServe
Banned
No way Nadal wins any US Opens if Davy was dedicated.
helloworld
Hall of Fame
So Davydenko is not dedicated? Looks to me like he is one of the most dedicated guys out there, but his talent is just limited.
I agree with this,no change in Nadal's slam count,just maybe a minor change in his title count...
Omega_7000
Legend
LOL...Just like this thread is a sad way to ease the pain of 17 slams! :lol:
http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=485536
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Omega_7000
Legend
Yeah and Nadal wouldn't have won Wimbledon 2010 either...
Yup tennis is all about match-ups...He's lucky that his main rival was such a good match-up for him...
Federer is not even dedicated. He is too busy giving interviews in three languages and with his foundation and making money. He is also very busy with his family.
Fed is just so talented that he achieved so much without dedication.
Flash O'Groove
Hall of Fame
Davydenko was as dedicated as Federer/Nole, but not as talented.
If Davydenko was as talented, a bit bigger and stronger, Nadal would not have been the only one to suffer. Federer could have lost several HC matches as well against him.
If Davydenko was as talented, a bit bigger and stronger, Nadal would not have been the only one to suffer. Federer could have lost several HC matches as well against him.
I don't agree. He only had one major weakness. His mentality.
His speed and footwork was amazing. His fitness too. He took the ball very early.
He had decent serve, great backhand, very good forehand, very good return.
Davydenko for me is a very complete player. A poor version of Djokovic.
What weaknesses do you see, besides not being dedicated and being mentally weak?
Flash O'Groove
Hall of Fame
I don't understand the not dedicated thing. He was always one of the hardest worker!
What weakness for Davydenko?
He doesn't have weapons, because he is small and skinny. His serve is rather poor, he can't easily generate power.
What does he do to hit winners then?
He uses his great movement to be in perfect position to take the ball as early as possible, take time away from his opponent, then step in and hit a sharp angled winner. He gets around his weakness by playing a game of very small margins. The day he is a bit slower, every thing fall apart. He need to be close to his best to perform well. When he is only a bit off, it has great effect on his game, much greater effect than when Nadal or Fed are a bit off.
When you know that you need to do everything perfectly to have a chance, it's hard to be strong mentally: no margins for Nikolay.
Prime Davy was a blast to watch against Nadal. he kept going for the Nadal BH with short angles from his FH, driving Nadal crazy and forcing the error time after time. Nadal tried to do the same but Davy's BH is more than capable and he was also super quick around the court. There were matches between the two where Nadal looked so helpless, and Davy just dominated him, fun days.
On clay the story was of course different, as always the case with Nadal.
On clay the story was of course different, as always the case with Nadal.
Davy was a hard worker but I think he meant dedicated as a slam winner, and Davy was never one. He always seemed to settle for a good result, and didn't push his limits to win the big titles. He certainly had the skills to win a slam, perhaps multiple slams. I think Federer took a lot of his confidence as Fed just dominated him for years, and Davy figured that even if he makes it to a slam final, Fed is going to be at the other side of the net and result will be predictable.
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