How many tennis players can run one mile in under 5 minutes 30 seconds?

MisterP

Hall of Fame
I would almost wager that if we took the 100 meter or even 40 yard sprint time of the average middle-aged USTA 4.0, and extrapolate it to 1 mile, they'd still be over 5:30.
I doubt it. The fastest guy I ever ran with was under 11 minutes for a 2 mile and he was an absolute freak of nature. He was maybe one in a 1000 or 10000.
 

Bambooman

Legend
Tennis is more about quick bursts of energy. Points are over quickly at the highest level. Sprinting and small step footwork drills are infinitely more productive than just running long distances.
A mile is not far. When you can run a faster mile all of those things are much easier to do and take way less out of you.
If you can only run a much slower mile you are very likely slower than a faster miler in sprints and recover poorly also.

But you'll never realize that until you can run a better mile.
 

Shaolin

G.O.A.T.
A mile is not far. When you can run a faster mile all of those things are much easier to do and take way less out of you.
If you can only run a much slower mile you are very likely slower than a faster miler in sprints and recover poorly also.

But you'll never realize that until you can run a better mile.

Still better off doing short burst hiit training and footwork ladders, patterns etc.
 

socallefty

G.O.A.T.
I wonder how many tennis players are like me who have never run a mile in their life. I’ve played sports for fun all my life, run shorter distances in the sprint range as part of training, but never run longer distances.
 

Bambooman

Legend
Still better off doing short burst hiit training and footwork ladders, patterns etc.
If you are training to run a fast mile you are already doing hill sprints etc. . More of them and faster too than a non runner.

It may also surprise you that a running tennis player likely also does the other specific things too.

It doesn't have to be either or.
 

Bambooman

Legend
I wonder how many tennis players are like me who have never run a mile in their life. I’ve played sports for fun all my life, run shorter distances in the sprint range as part of training, but never run longer distances.
Many. But you don't know how you are missing out and likely never will at this point.
 

Bambooman

Legend
Just curious, which professional tennis players do you think can run a 1500 faster than 3:45?
Likely none. The number was probably selected on the off chance that one had. Also it's entirely possible that many players might have greater actual sprinting speed than a four minute miler.
 

tennis3

Hall of Fame
Likely none.
Very likely none.

This thread is pretty funny. It reminds me how few people have any understanding at all of actual running training. You of course being the exception. The responses you get to your posts are pretty funny.

I remember when I had basically stopped doing actual training some 15 years ago, I was running 7 minute miles on the indoor track over lunch. Just to stay in shape. I had people watching me in utter amazement and they thought I was the most amazing runner they'd ever seen (I think I was running 45 minutes to an hour most days at that pace). 7 minute miles to me were slightly faster than "junk miles", so it took me a while to realize they were being serious (I thought they were mocking me at first).

Basically, you're like a 5.0 runner trying to explain to 3.0 runners how training works. You might as well talk to a wall. They'll never really understand what you're saying. Anyone who's done some running can play tennis singles all day, getting to every ball and wearing out any opponent they play. When I started playing tennis, I was amazed how poor of condition tennis players are. Most get tired after 1 set. Even today, I run guys 30 years younger than me into the ground without even trying. And I can still get to lots of balls they think I can't. And not just get to balls, but hit a good defensive shot, stay in the point and often turn it around. And I'm old (and fat). But compared to most rec tennis players, I'm supremely fit. Which is pretty sad I think, considering how far I am from what I used to be.
 
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atatu

Legend
Very likely none.

This thread is pretty funny. It reminds me how few people have any understanding at all of actual running training. You of course being the exception. The responses you get to your posts are pretty funny.

I remember when I had basically stopped doing actual training some 15 years ago, I was running 7 minute miles on the indoor track over lunch. Just to stay in shape. I had people watching me in utter amazement and they thought I was the most amazing runner they'd ever seen (I think I was running 45 minutes to an hour most days at that pace). 7 minute miles to me were slightly faster than "junk miles", so it took me a while to realize they were being serious (I thought they were mocking me at first).

Basically, you're like a 5.0 runner trying to explain to 3.0 runners how training works. You might as well talk to a wall. They'll never really understand what you're saying. Anyone who's done some running can play tennis singles all day, getting to every ball and wearing out any opponent they play. When I started playing tennis, I was amazed how poor of condition tennis players are. Most get tired after 1 set. Even today, I run guys 30 years younger than me into the ground without even trying. And I can still get to lots of balls they think I can't. And not just get to balls, but hit a good defensive shot, stay in the point and often turn it around. And I'm old (and fat). But compared to most rec tennis players, I'm supremely fit. Which is pretty sad I think, considering how far I am from what I used to be.
You're probably right that it's none, the point was if in fact this guy can run a 3:45 that's pretty amazing.
 

nyta2

Hall of Fame
How many players can bench press 350? That has about as much relevance as running a sub 5.5 minute mile.
Tennis is more about quick bursts of energy. Points are over quickly at the highest level. Sprinting and small step footwork drills are infinitely more productive than just running long distances.
the theory is that the ratio of energy systems (aerobic, anaerobic) needed to run 1M fast, is similar to what is needed for tennis... (eg. if you can run 1M fast, you can probbably recover energy wise, quickly, to do back to back to back sprint points with say 30s rest in between)... kinda mimics the interval training you typically do to run the 1M fast (eg. 400s 200s 100s with limited rest)
 

Bambooman

Legend
the theory is that the ratio of energy systems (aerobic, anaerobic) needed to run 1M fast, is similar to what is needed for tennis... (eg. if you can run 1M fast, you can probbably recover energy wise, quickly, to do back to back to back sprint points with say 30s rest in between)... kinda mimics the interval training you typically do to run the 1M fast (eg. 400s 200s 100s with limited rest)
Exactly. Of course some people may have such a high degree of natural ability that they can run say five minutes or better even if they only plod around at a jog for training.

Generally though a fairly average person attempting to run their best mile is going to be doing some varied work as you describe.

It's a good yardstick to measure fitness and speed.
 
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