How many times the big 3 came back from 0-2 sets down in a slam match and went onto win the slam title

[Hitman]

Federer

RG 2009 - Haas 4th round
W 2012 - Benneteau 2nd round

Nadal

AO 2022 - Medvedev Final

Djokovic

USO 2011 - Federer Semi Final
W 2015 - Anderson 4th Round
RG 2021 - Musetti 4th Round
RG 2021 - Tsitipas Final
W 2022 - Sinner Quarter Final
USO 2023 - Djere 3rd Round

Djokovic only player who had to do it twice in the same slam.

 

[Gazelle]

Djokovic is just a cheater.

 

[Pheasant]

That stat is wild. It made me change my mind when equating tennis to the Rocky movies.

Djokovic is Rocky: comeback king
Sinner is Ivan Drago: tuned machine
Federer is Apollo Creed: pretty footwork
Alcaraz is Mr. T: a bulldog of a competitor

 

[Hitman]

That stat is wild. It made me change my mind when equating tennis to the Rocky movies.

Djokovic is Rocky: comeback king
Sinner is Ivan Drago: tuned machine
Federer is Apollo Creed: pretty footwork
Alcaraz is Mr. T: a bulldog of a competitor

Who is Tommy?

 

[adil1972]

Federer

RG 2009 - Haas
W 2012 - Benneteau

Nadal

AO 2022 - Medvedev

Djokovic

USO 2011 - Federer
W 2015 - Anderson
RG 2021 - Musetti
RG 2021 - Tsitipas
W 2022 - Sinner
USO 2023 - Djere

Djokovic only player who had to do it twice in the same slam.

Pls mention round also when u have time in above post

Also mentin when opposite happen to big3 in slams

Tsm = Thnx so much

 

[Pheasant]

Who is Tommy?

Zverev is Tommy Gunn.

 

[Hitman]

Pls mention round also when u have time in above post

Also mentin when opposite happen to big3 in slams

Tsm = Thnx so much

You mean when they were 2-0, but lost and the other guy went onto win the slam? OP update with the rounds also.

 

[Hitman]

Zverev is Tommy Gunn.

That is the perfect choice. LOL

 

[adil1972]

It is said nadal never lost 2 consecutive matches on clay in past

But i think this streak came to end this year at FO when he lost in 1Round after losing to djok at Paris olympics 2024 prior to that

Am i right??????

 

[adil1972]

You mean when they were 2-0, but lost and the other guy went onto win the slam?

Yes plz

 

[Nappa]

When you are not good enough you need to get to the fifth more often.

 

[adil1972]

One more request

Which player has won a slam by playing most sets in history of slams.

For example there are 7 bo5 matches in a slam which means a player has to win 21 sets out of total 35 sets, if all 7 matches went to 5th sets

Now assume player three matches ended in 5 sets and remaining four matches ended in 4 sets.

So it means he won slam by playing 31 sets = 5 × 3 + 4 × 4.

 

[Hitman]

Yes plz

That would be Federer USO 2011 only.

 

[Hitman]

When you are not good enough you need to get to the fifth more often.

Also if you are not good enough, your fighting spirit exposed and more often than not, if going down 2-0 is enough to bury you. No heart kid.

 

[Hitman]

It is said nadal never lost 2 consecutive matches on clay in past

But i think this streak came to end this year at FO when he lost in 1Round after losing to djok at Paris olympics 2024 prior to that

Am i right??????

It was the loss to Hubie in Rome in the 2nd round, followed up by a 1st round loss to Zverev at RG this year.

Nadal after RG, played a 250 and lost in the final, but then won his first round match at the Olympics, before Djokovic beat him.

 

[Hitman]

One more request

Which player has won a slam by playing most sets in history of slams.

For example there are 7 bo5 matches in a slam which means a player has to win 21 sets out of total 35 sets, if all 7 matches went to 5th sets

Now assume player three matches ended in 5 sets and remaining four matches ended in 4 sets.

So it means he won slam by playing 31 sets = 5 × 3 + 4 × 4.

You mean basically who lost the most sets then on route to the title?

That would be a tie of 8 sets lost between

Borg 1974 RG
Becker 1985 W
Kuerten 1997 RG

Total sets played = 29

 

[ND-13]

I see we are counting 2017-2023 here . That skews everything.

 

[Hitman]

I see we are counting 2017-2023 here . That skews everything.

No cherry picking years here. This is total career. I know it is even more incredible to do it at a later age, I get the praise you want to give them in their latter years, but big 3 are special for a reason. Their whole careers count.

 

[Carax]

Great reminder of the best comeback in the AO history. That 2022 final was something else.

 

[Tano]

Djokovic is just a cheater.

Djokovic achieved it at 34, 35 and 36 years old.
Amazing scenes!

 

[Hitman]

Djokovic achieved it at 34, 35 and 36 years old.
Amazing scenes!

And what year did Nadal achieve it at?

 

[Tano]

And what year did Nadal achieve it at?

Only once; meanwhile, Djokovic's stamina is unprecedented in the history of tennis.

 

[Hitman]

Only once; meanwhile, Djokovic's stamina is unprecedented in the history of tennis.

True, Djokovic has been doing since he did it to Federer back in 2011 at age 23. When you can do it against a GOAT level player in a very strong period, you truly are something special.

 

[Tano]

True, Djokovic has been doing since he did it to Federer back in 2011 at age 23. When you can do it against a GOAT level player in a very strong period, you truly are something special.

Djokovic was 24 at the 2011 US Open.

 

[Hitman]

Djokovic was 24 at the 2011 US Open.

Yes, that really makes the difference, so much closer to 34-35-36.

 

[duaneeo]

The other story is that peak/prime Djokovic found himself down 0-2 sets at the slams seven times...five of which he did not come back to win:

2011 RG - Federer
2012 RG - Nadal
2012 USO - Murray
2013 WB - Murray
2016 WB - Querrey

 

[nolefam_2024]

Federer

RG 2009 - Haas 4th round
W 2012 - Benneteau 2nd round

Nadal

AO 2022 - Medvedev Final

Djokovic

USO 2011 - Federer Semi Final
W 2015 - Anderson 4th Round
RG 2021 - Musetti 4th Round
RG 2021 - Tsitipas Final
W 2022 - Sinner Quarter Final
USO 2023 - Djere 3rd Round

Djokovic only player who had to do it twice in the same slam.

It is actually bad that nole has so many times been taken to 0-2 in sets. I have made thread about it.

Djokovic has more ups and downs in slams than fed or nadal. Fed is great front runner but falls off very badly if match goes long. Djokovic needs sometimes sets where he goes mentally out.

Nadal is in between. It's actually bad stat for nole.

Which is why he never won a slam without dropping set.

 

[Hitman]

It is actually bad that nole has so many times been taken to 0-2 in sets. I have made thread about it.

Djokovic has more ups and downs in slams than fed or nadal. Fed is great front runner but falls off very badly if match goes long. Djokovic needs sometimes sets where he goes mentally out.

Nadal is in between. It's actually bad stat for nole.

Which is why he never won a slam without dropping set.

I would disagree, because for me that means he has fought back to win a match against an inspired opponent. There is no world in which I would say it would be better to lose 0-2 than to come back and win.

Nadal from the period of 2008 to 2021 failed every single time whenever he was two sets to love down to make a come back and win, and that includes some of his best years.

2008, a peak year for him, he lost both times he went two sets down in a slam, AO and USO. In 2009, he lost USO again, in 2010 he lost AO again. Then in 2011 we saw it at all three slams that he lost that year, he lost the first two sets in those also.

Federer is slightly better, but my point still stands. This is why it is best of five, it is what makes comebacks legendary.

 

[MissileBackHand99]

Now we ALL KNOW if Fedal had been at the head of this list, the Belgrade fandom would storm this thread saying "well Novak never had to get down 0 sets to 2 in order to stage a comeback!" or "Fedal did it against "weak era" opponents!". Gluten-Man is ahead of the list and its just a microcosm of his greatness. Gotta love the pure hypocrisy/double standards, and disingenuousness of that group

 

[ghostofMecir]

Federer

RG 2009 - Haas 4th round
W 2012 - Benneteau 2nd round

Nadal

AO 2022 - Medvedev Final

Djokovic

USO 2011 - Federer Semi Final
W 2015 - Anderson 4th Round
RG 2021 - Musetti 4th Round
RG 2021 - Tsitipas Final
W 2022 - Sinner Quarter Final
USO 2023 - Djere 3rd Round

Djokovic only player who had to do it twice in the same slam.

I don’t know it’s kind of ugly that he’s losing two sets to some of these players here like Djete and misery I, etc.

 

[gamelovergold]

Winning after going 2 set down looks great but if you are doing this means first 2 set were not great . Novak has more matches 2 set down and winning .it looks novak takes more time to mentally lock himself for do or die situations. It can happen that opponent was playing all out for 2 sets and run out of steam in last 3 sets .

 

[nolefam_2024]

I don’t know it’s kind of ugly that he’s losing two sets to some of these players here like Djete and misery I, etc.

For djere match he was 36 full. It's ok. He won last 3 very easily.

 

[GoatNo1]

and then Fed's fans insist that Fed's wins are worth more than No1e's because many tournaments have been played in BO5 or had BO5 finals. I've always said it would only benefit bigger players as there is less chance of an upset. and this applies especially to No1e who has shown his Houdini abilities many times and turned so many epic matches. not only from 0-2 but also 1-2 and saved many epic MPs.

 

[Jonas78]

Hmm was sure it was more matches between Big3 & NextGen that went this way . Only Med and Tsits once, feels like more. I guess there were several matches going to five that wasnt 0-2 first?

 

[nolefam_2024]

and then Fed's fans insist that Fed's wins are worth more than No1e's because many tournaments have been played in BO5 or had BO5 finals. I've always said it would only benefit bigger players as there is less chance of an upset. and this applies especially to No1e who has shown his Houdini abilities many times and turned so many epic matches. not only from 0-2 but also 1-2 and saved many epic MPs.

It's actually true that nole has better bo5 win% than fed. And by big margin.

Federer's problem is his fifth set record. It's good but not great. He has lost many slam matches in fifth even in his prime. He has issues with going toe to toe five hrs.

 

[Sudacafan]

Djokovic is just a cheater.

Do those stats reflect cheating?

 

[Djokodalerer31]

That stat is wild. It made me change my mind when equating tennis to the Rocky movies.

Djokovic is Rocky: comeback king
Sinner is Ivan Drago: tuned machine
Federer is Apollo Creed: pretty footwork
Alcaraz is Mr. T: a bulldog of a competitor

Mr.T's character was called Clubber Lang! Also who would be "Thunderlips" aka Hulk Hogan's character?...

 

[Gazelle]

Do those stats reflect cheating?

I mean he cheats near certain defeat and turns into victory.

Not cheating in the more literal way.

 

[Djokovic_is_the_best#1]

Djokovic never say die attitude. Warrior mentality that won him the slam race. Incredible scenes!

 

[Sudacafan]

Two thirds of Nole's 0-2 comebacks took place in the Inflation Era.

 

[AO13]

This is why, including other reason like clutchness, I rank Djokovic above Nadal when it comes to mentality.

I see many people rank Nadal's mentality as greatest ever, but I think they mistaken the term with fighting spirit.

True, Nadal is a never give up warrior, one of the greatest ever, but mentality is about producing your best tennis in the times of most uncomfortable situations, and Novak had them a lot.

The crowds were almost every time against him, he was perceived as the third wheel, he had to even save match points in finals of Wimbledon. He managed to get above all that.

Djokovic's mentality, to me, is one of the greatest ever in all of sports.​

 

[SonnyT]

In one clutchness study, Djokovic ranked 1st above Borg and Alcaraz, Nadal 8th between Mac and Muster, and Federer 13th between Metreveli and Kriek. Gonzales, Newcombe, Becker and Lendl ranked 15-18th!

 

[messiahrobins]

When you are not good enough you need to get to the fifth more often.

Just saw the stats. Sort of proves what i think is now established as a fact, that Federer and Nadal were definitely the greatest players so far this century as notice how both only got into 5 set scraps against inferior players way past their peaks. As you say it means that at their best they just took care of business with consumate ease.

 

[Hitman]

Djokovic never say die attitude. Warrior mentality that won him the slam race. Incredible scenes!

That's why he ultimately got the slam record, it was difficult to put him away. Other greats, sure they were fighters also, but many times they have been straight setted when they were two sets to love down, or at best got one set. Djokovic was the guy who was more likely to fight back.

 

[Neptune]

Just saw the stats. Sort of proves what i think is now established as a fact, that Federer and Nadal were definitely the greatest players so far this century as notice how both only got into 5 set scraps against inferior players way past their peaks. As you say it means that at their best they just took care of business with consumate ease.

Fedal peak in vacuum era.

Establishment skew is most effective in strong years against strong king, in weak years for weak vulture.

 

[NoleFam]

Just saw the stats. Sort of proves what i think is now established as a fact, that Federer and Nadal were definitely the greatest players so far this century as notice how both only got into 5 set scraps against inferior players way past their peaks. As you say it means that at their best they just took care of business with consumate ease.

Incorrect. They both played plenty of 5 set matches against inferior players in their best years. If we go by percentage for entire careers it's:

Nadal - 38/358 = 10.6%
Federer - 46/429 = 10.7%
Djokovic - 46/429 = 10.7%

They all have played about the same percentage of 5 setters across their careers. Djokovic just has won a higher percentage of those matches than they have.

 

[nolefam_2024]

Incorrect. They both played plenty of 5 set matches against inferior players in their best years. If we go by percentage for entire careers it's:

Nadal - 38/358 = 10.6%
Federer - 46/429 = 10.7%
Djokovic - 46/429 = 10.7%

They all have played about the same percentage of 5 setters across their careers. Djokovic just has won a higher percentage of those matches than they have.

Great. It's always good when everything is easily shown by stats and no lying is possible.

 

[Hitman]

Great. It's always good when everything is easily shown by stats and no lying is possible.

Its not normally just pulled out of thin air.

 

[duaneeo]

Incorrect. They both played plenty of 5 set matches against inferior players in their best years.

So rather than giving the percentage of 5-setters played against inferior players when Federer/Nadal/Djokovic were "in their best years", why did you instead list the "entire career" percentage?

 

[NoleFam]

So rather than giving the percentage of 5-setters played against inferior players when Federer/Nadal/Djokovic were "in their best years", why did you instead list the "entire career" percentage?

Since you're that interested in it, you can easily go pull up the numbers yourself. Problem solved.