How many us open and Wimbledon Djokovic will win

Noletheking

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Djokovic is still 31 and in this era of tennis ,players are playing at very high level In their 30s. With us open literally playing like australian open I see Djokovic dominating there for atleast 3 more years and be a contender till 35. With Murray out of pic I see noone Challenging him at Wimbledon if he makes it to second week of tournament. Guys, how many us open and Wimbledon Djokovic is going to win before he calls it a day .I think 6 us open and 6 -7Wimbledon . Discuss
 

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You realize he won 3 USO and 4 Wimbledon in 10 years of winning slams? I don't mean to break your dreams but you are over-optimistic imo. He's not done winning slams, but winning 7 to 10 more at 32 and more, well... it's not going to happen.
 
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You realize he won 3 USO and 4 Wimbledon in 10 years of winning slams? I don't mean to break your dreams but you are over-optimistic imo. He's not done winning slams, but winning 7 to 10 more at 32 and more, well... it's not going to happen.
These are Djokovic fans we're talking about mate... they think tennis players peak at 35.
 

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If (and only if) Djokovic can keep a similar level to Federer at age 34/35 he can win over 20 Majors. But I am starting to think that Federer could win another Wimbledon title if Djokovic loses before facing him. So Djokovic has a lot of pression there. If he loses earlier, Federer is probably winning another Wimbledon like in 2017.

It is fair to admit that Federer was stopped by Djokovic in 2015/2016 at age 34-35, but no player of this weak Next Gen is going stop Djokovic at age 34/35. Only Nadal on clay could stop him, not sure about grass.
 
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If Djokovic can keep a similar level to Federer at age 34/35 he will undoubtedly win over 20 Majors. But I am starting to think that Federer could win another Wimbledon title if Djokovic loses before facing him. So Djokovic has a lot of pression there. If he loses earlier, Federer is probably winning another Wimbledon like in 2017.

It is fair to admit that Federer was stopped by Djokovic in 2015/2016 at age 34-35, but no player of the Next Gen can stop Djokovic at age 34/35. Only Nadal on clay could potentially stop him, not sure about grass.
I don't see Djokovic crossing over 20 majors. Guy has wear and tear people are forgetting about. Did 2016-2017 not happen? The guy dropped outside the top 20 for Christ sake.
 
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18-20? I respect your right to have an opinion but tell me how many Wimbledon and us open he will win?
How long is he going to keep up his level? History shows he dips and it's been down further every time. One time he will drop like Sampras did in his later years and not be able to come back to the top spot.

He's a legend and IMO the second best player I've seen (close to Federer)... but everyone falls.
 
If Djokovic can keep a similar level to Federer at age 34/35 he will undoubtedly win over 20 Majors. But I am starting to think that Federer could win another Wimbledon title if Djokovic loses before facing him. So Djokovic has a lot of pression there. If he loses earlier, Federer is probably winning another Wimbledon like in 2017.

It is fair to admit that Federer was stopped by Djokovic in 2015/2016 at age 34-35, but no player of the Next Gen can stop Djokovic at age 34/35. Only Nadal on clay could stop him, not sure about grass.
Never say never, but hard to see 38 y/o winning 7 matches in best of 5 format, especially not 38 y/o with such a heavy schedule like Federer.
 

Noletheking

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I don't see Djokovic crossing over 20 majors. Guy has wear and tear people are forgetting about. Did 2016-2017 not happen? The guy dropped outside the top 20 for Christ sake.
Why not? Fed was stopped by Nad and Djokovic in his 30s. Who is gonna stop Djokovic ? You are hoping for a miracle so a player arrives and start beating him? He will easily win over 20 if he keeps the same form till 34-35. Out of 16slams he will easily win atleast 8 .
 

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I don't see Djokovic crossing over 20 majors. Guy has wear and tear people are forgetting about. Did 2016-2017 not happen? The guy dropped outside the top 20 for Christ sake.
It will be difficult, I agree with your analysis. But even if Djokovic wins 20-21, will it be enough? Are we 100% sure that Federer can't win another Wimbledon? If Federer keeps playing at this level, he will be a top 2 Wimbledon contender for 2019 and 2020. If Djokovic loses earlier than Federer, I don't see anyone stopping Federer on grass.
 

Noletheking

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How long is he going to keep up his level? History shows he dips and it's been down further every time. One time he will drop like Sampras did in his later years and not be able to come back to the top spot.

He's a legend and IMO the second best player I've seen (close to Federer)... but everyone falls.
We are not in Sampras era anymore. We are in an era where players are playing great tennis even in their mid 30s. His level dropped due to family issues and he is back again .
 
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Why not? Fed was stopped by Nad and Djokovic in his 30s. Who is gonna stop Djokovic ? You are hoping for a miracle so a player arrives and start beating him? He will easily win over 20 if he keeps the same form till 34-35. Out of 16slams he will easily win atleast 8 .
I'm not hoping for anything... I like Djokovic but I'm being realistic. Djokovic doesn't need to be stopped by a big time player. What we're witnessing right now is a resurgence... and like I said in another post history shows he can't keep up this high level forever. That is what separates Federer and Djokovic IMO.
 

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The UO doesn't play like the AO first of all. Also, Djokovic is not a lock for Wimbledon if he makes it out of the 1st week. Any big serving mug on a hot streak can take him out. Plus there's always the potential of playing Federer there and nothing about that is automatic. One of each is most likely imo.
 
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Even Paganini isn't a magician. Okay maybe has extra one or two secret magic potions in his sleeve but 38 are 38. And Fed isn't helping with playing 100% every god damn masters and ATP500 in the calendar.
 
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We are not in Sampras era anymore. We are in an era where players are playing great tennis even in their mid 30s. Bis level dropped due to family issues and hes back again .
No, his level dropped because he had an elbow injury that required surgery... things haven't evolved that much that humans have become machines. He isn't immortal. I honestly cannot fathom Djokovic playing at this level in 2 or so years time.
 

Noletheking

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You realize he won 3 USO and 4 Wimbledon in 10 years of winning slams? I don't mean to break your dreams but you are over-optimistic imo. He's not done winning slams, but winning 7 to 10 more at 32 and more, well... it's not going to happen.
You realise he has won last 3 slams and he has won mon in his 30s than Fed has. He hit peak in 2011 and since then he is on tear . You are too dishonest if you're including 2008 aswell. He 4wimbledon , 3 us open and 1 rg since 2011. That's 7 and half year.
 
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It will be difficult, I agree with your analysis. But even if Djokovic wins 20-21, will it be enough? Are we 100% sure that Federer can't win another Wimbledon? If Federer keeps playing at this level, he will be a top 2 Wimbledon contender for 2019 and 2020. If Djokovic loses earlier than Federer, I don't see anyone stopping Federer on grass.
Federer could well win another Wimbledon... but his form has been patchy. He's been losing early in majors for a while now. He's also 37 going on 38 which means he's very old in tennis terms.
 

Noletheking

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I'm not hoping for anything... I like Djokovic but I'm being realistic. Djokovic doesn't need to be stopped by a big time player. What we're witnessing right now is a resurgence... and like I said in another post history shows he can't keep up this high level forever. That is what separates Federer and Djokovic IMO.

Saying anything against what we witness is hope or wish. Like I said players are playing at high level in 30s and it's a wishful thinking to think Djokovic will be anything different ,on top of that he already won 3 slams at 31st year. He has window of 4-5 years .
 

tenisdecente

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25 slams with the tennis world changing so much every time?
I doubt it, in fact, I wont be sure he can leapfrog Nadal in the GS count...
 

Noletheking

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25 slams with the tennis world changing so much every time?
I doubt it, in fact, I wont be sure he can leapfrog Nadal in the GS count...
I said 22minimum 25 maximum. He will get atleast 16 slams to play and he can easily win half of it if he kepes the same level which I think he will . Why you think Djokovic won't play at very high level when all players are playing in their 30s?
 

tenisdecente

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I said 22minimum 25 maximum. He will get atleast 16 slams to play and he can easily win half of it if he kepes the same level which I think he will . Why you think Djokovic won't play at very high level when all players are playing in their 30s?

Because it does need also that youngsters dont step up their games, and for me the future is a bit brighter than before. And for me the fact that his form come and go is what make me doubt about 6 more GS. If he arrives to 20 before the end of 2020, then maybe you are right. But I think is pretty difficult
 

Noletheking

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Because it does need also that youngsters dont step up their games, and for me the future is a bit brighter than before. And for me the fact that his form come and go is what make me doubt about 6 more GS. If he arrives to 20 before the end of 2020, then maybe you are right. But I think is pretty difficult

Well again you're hoping that a youngster will arrive and even if some youngster arrive the gane has become very physical and he will not challenge at 20. Another thing is this level of Djokovic is very high and all the next gen players I see have so many holes in their game , some don't have bh, some have horrible return , some don't have fh ,some are pushers . You need a very complete game to beat Djokovic. also, us open being slowed down and acting like AO open has given him 2 home turf . Did you see last year us open? Delpo played great but Djokovic was returning everything because court was too slow to hit through him.
 

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You realise he has won last 3 slams and he has won mon in his 30s than Fed has. He hit peak in 2011 and since then he is on tear . You are too dishonest if you're including 2008 aswell. He 4wimbledon , 3 us open and 1 rg since 2011. That's 7 and half year.
At the US Open 2010 there was also a change in the level, he was not the same player than in 2007-early 2010. He defeated Federer at the US Open 2010 (remember he had lost in straight sets to Federer at the USO 2009). He already had improved his baseline game and shots. But yeah, 2011 was the first overall dominant year of Djokovic (3 Grand Slams and epic victories over Federer and Nadal).
 

RaulRamirez

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I don't foresee a total haul of 22-25.
A combined three more Wimbledon and USO titles will be a doable challenge, bringing those to 10.

A combination of two or three more from AO and FO (for 10 or 11 from the first half of the circuit) may also be achievable.

Who really knows - lots of variables, internally and externally.
 

Noletheking

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At the US Open 2010 there was also a change in the level, he was not the same player than in 2007-early 2010. He defeated Federer at the US Open 2010 (just like he did in 2011) and already had improved his baseline game and shots. But yeah, 2011 was the first overall dominant year of Djokovic (3 Grand Slams and epic victories over Federer and Nadal).

That's what I pointed out that he was too dishonest when he said he won 4 wimb in 10 years while in reality he has been winning Wimbledon and other slams(bar fo) consistently once he hit the peak.
 
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tenisdecente

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Well again you're hoping that a youngster will arrive and even if some youngster arrive the gane has become very physical and he will not challenge at 20. Another thing is this level of Djokovic is very high and all the next gen players I see have so many holes in their game , some don't have bh, some have horrible return , some don't have fh ,some are pushers . You need a very complete game to beat Djokovic. also, us open being slowed down and acting like AO open has given him 2 home turf . Did you see last year us open? Delpo played great but Djokovic was returning everything because court was too slow to hit through him.

Come on, it is difficult to argue against his recent form in the last 3 Slams, but things change fast. And yes, of course the youngsters need a complete game to challenge him, but to challenge a good version of him, which can appear or disappear as the last couple of years already showed. Dont give anything for granted after 30, your prediction my become true or maybe not. I dont see him arriving at 20 at all
 

Noletheking

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I don't foresee a total haul of 22-25.
A combined three more Wimbledon and USO titles will be a doable challenge, bringing those to 10.

A combination of two or three more from AO and FO (for 10 or 11 from the first half of the circuit) may also be achievable.

Who really knows - lots of variables, internally and externally.

3 us and wim combined? Us open has been playing like AO open and he's a red hot favourite there. he will win atleast 2-Ao open, 2-3wim 2-3-us open and 0-1 RG.
 
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Noletheking

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Come on, it is difficult to argue against his recent form in the last 3 Slams, but things change fast. And yes, of course the youngsters need a complete game to challenge him, but to challenge a good version of him, which can appear or disappear as the last couple of years already showed. Dont give anything for granted after 30, your prediction my become true or maybe not. I dont see him arriving at 20 at all

Trust me Nadal played amazingly at Wimbledon 2018 and still fall short. to challenge this Djokovic you need a goat tier player and even that is not guaranteed that he will beat him. Another thing is you're just hoping that Djokovic will fall when in reality players are playing at high level in their 30s , why you think Nole will be an exception ?
 
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RaulRamirez

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3 us and wim combined? Us open has been playing like AO open and he's a red hot favourite there. he will win atleast 2-Ao open, 2-3wim 2-3-us open and 0-1 RG.
You asked for our opinions/projections. As a fan of his, if he achieves all you project - great. 5 (even 6) more majors at this stage of his career would be huge. I see that as his ceiling.

Even if he is the favorite at each major thru 2021 (it's a stretch to call him the favorite at the FO) winning 5 or 6 of those 11 is a huge task. Try to enjoy each one.
 

beard

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Wim: 1 or 2, hope for 3
USO: 1 or 2, hope for 3
AO: 1 or 2, hope for 3
RG: 1 or 2, hope for 3
 

yokied

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So after watching the last two M1000s that you don't watch, the ones where your boy was knocked T F out and your most hated player reached the final in one and won the other, now is the time to unveil your latest state-of-the-art predictions? Predictions that you've been working on round the clock since watching the tournaments that you don't watch, pushing through the red myst of vaporised Uniqlo logos? The only real question is what vintage are the Uniqlo logos? Are they Noel-vintage or Fed-vintage?

Seeing all the faeces that you and Lew have been spraying around the place last couple of days leaves me, and I'm sure others, feeling conflicted. There is much better conversation to be had about Fedalovic, but on the other hand ... <insert Antonio Banderas smug gif here>
 

Noletheking

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You asked for our opinions/projections. As a fan of his, if he achieves all you project - great. 5 (even 6) more majors at this stage of his career would be huge. I see that as his ceiling.

Even if he is the favorite at each major thru 2021 (it's a stretch to call him the favorite at the FO) winning 5 or 6 of those 11 is a huge task. Try to enjoy each one.

Fair enough but I also asked for rationale . I think he will b favourite for 4 more years and then win slam here and there till 36.
 
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