How many us open and Wimbledon Djokovic will win

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Deleted member 307496

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Not true he has 1 more slam and many more slam finals.
In terms of playing level I don't see much difference between peak Murray and peak Hewitt... Murray is better because of his longevity but he fared better against Djokovic because he matched up well against him. Same can't be said for Hewitt and Federer.
 

Noletheking

Hall of Fame
In terms of playing level I don't see much difference between peak Murray and peak Hewitt... Murray is better because of his longevity but he fared better against Djokovic because he matched up well against him. Same can't be said for Hewitt and Federer.

That's mental gymnastic. Murray has won more than 14natches against Fed, how many Hewitt won? Only a blind fan like you will say both are equal player. Hewit has nothing over Murray from serve to bh.
 
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That's mental gymnastic. Murray has won more than 14natches against Fed, how many Hewitt won? Only a blind fan like you will say both are equal player. Hewit has nothing over Murray from serve to bh.
:laughing::-D

Hewitt won 9 out of 18 matches against Federer... only behind Nalbandian and Murray himself. I never said both were equal players. I said Murray is better because of his longevity but peak for peak they are roughly the same. Hewitt had over 10,000 points at one point and wasn't allowed to get more when he peaked because of Federer...
 

Noletheking

Hall of Fame
:laughing::-D

Hewitt won 9 out of 18 matches against Federer... only behind Nalbandian and Murray himself. I never said both were equal players. I said Murray is better because of his longevity but peak for peak they are roughly the same. Hewitt had over 10,000 points at one point and wasn't allowed to get more when he peaked because of Federer...

Hewit h2h against Fed was embarrassing once Fed hit the peak even you know that.murray was even leading in h2h with fed for long and that too in Fed prime .
 
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Hewit h2h against Fed was embarrassing once Fed hit the peak even you know that.murray was even leading in h2h with fed for long and that too in Fed prime .
Murray never had to face 2004 Federer who was more dangerous than his 2006 counterpart IMO...
 

Luka888

Professional
He might win 5 or 11 more or none. Who the heck knows. I'm really not sure about these 'prediction theories'. Then some people here will talk about Fed, Nadal, even Murray ... Let it go and just relax (y).
 

KINGROGER

G.O.A.T.
I think your calculations are wrong...
If Novak finish with 18 slams and finish as 2nd greatest, that mean Rafa will win only one more slam. So, Rafa plus Novak just 4 more slams combined to the rest of their carriers. No way that will happen. There is 90 percent of chance next RG is Rafas or Noles...

My prediction is they will win at least 8 more titles combined... New guy will start winning slams, Fed may get another one or two, but these two will keep dominating in next few years...
If Rafa reaches 19 with just RG I’ll still consider Nole greater due to his greater versatility and YEC titles.
 

KINGROGER

G.O.A.T.
Even if Rafa and Nole don't reach 20 they will be greater than Fed due to 100 times greter competition.
Wild exaggeration. And lol at Nole having anywhere near tough competition post 2013.

Where’s Nadal’s competition on clay too? Out of all the times Fed/Nole played him at RG during his winning runs... only once did either of them provide a good test (2013). Every other time was a walk in the park.
 

chut

Professional
Wild exaggeration. And lol at Nole having anywhere near tough competition post 2013.

Where’s Nadal’s competition on clay too? Out of all the times Fed/Nole played him at RG during his winning runs... only once did either of them provide a good test (2013). Every other time was a walk in the park.

This only means that Federer is 100 times greater competition than anyone else. The logic here is Djokovic & Nadal > Federer because Federer > anyone. o_O
 

GabeT

G.O.A.T.
How about this?

Nole wins the next FO and Wimbledon. 5 in a row!

He loses at the USO, failing to get the CYGS.

He then wins the WTF and goes on to win AO20.

But after that he never wins another slam. But he accumulates enough weeks at #1 to beat Fed.

He ends with 18 slams, two less than Fed
He has a better record than Fed at two of the slams.
He equals Fed at the WTF
He has more time at number 1 than Fed (both weeks and YE)
He has more masters than Fed.
 

KINGROGER

G.O.A.T.
How about this?

Nole wins the next FO and Wimbledon. 5 in a row!

He loses at the USO, failing to get the CYGS.

He then wins the WTF and goes on to win AO20.

But after that he never wins another slam. But he accumulates enough weeks at #1 to beat Fed.

He ends with 18 slams, two less than Fed
He has a better record than Fed at two of the slams.
He equals Fed at the WTF
He has more time at number 1 than Fed (both weeks and YE)
He has more masters than Fed.
Pretty even in that scenario. Nole would need to equal or surpass the slam total in order to be sole GOAT.
 

GabeT

G.O.A.T.
Pretty even in that scenario. Nole would need to equal or surpass the slam total in order to be sole GOAT.
I really don't see a realistic scenario where Nole is sole GOAT. I do think it's more likely that Nole can win enough to be some sort of co-GOAT, depending on what you think is most important.
 

KINGROGER

G.O.A.T.
I really don't see a realistic scenario where Nole is sole GOAT. I do think it's more likely that Nole can win enough to be some sort of co-GOAT, depending on what you think is most important.
That does seem most likely scenario. Fed will always have his claims due to the Wimbledon record, 20 slams, 5 in a row at 2 slams, longevity etc but Nole can put himself up there if he continues to rack up slams and time at number 1. They’re my top 2.
 

Noletheking

Hall of Fame
Pretty even in that scenario. Nole would need to equal or surpass the slam total in order to be sole GOAT.
Not really .with h2h and 100times tougher competition , Nole would be far ahead than Fed. Anyways, I don't believe in Goat. It's not possible to have a Goat .
 

KINGROGER

G.O.A.T.
Not really .with h2h and 100times tougher competition , Nole would be far ahead than Fed. Anyways, I don't believe in Goat. It's not possible to have a Goat .
Where are you getting this “100 times tougher” nonsense from?

Fed never had any years as weak as 2015/2016 with 0 prime ATG competition on any surface.
 

Noletheking

Hall of Fame
Where are you getting this “100 times tougher” nonsense from?

Fed never had any years as weak as 2015/2016 with 0 prime ATG competition on any surface.

Nonsense?he won 5 us open by beating no all time great (old agasi, baby Murray, Djokovic) hewit, Roddick. 5 australian open by beating no all time great ,only one came by beating Nadal. Wimbledon? Shall I go on . Dude just look around finalist and semifinalist and you will see difference of day and night in both players resume. Let Djokovic come near 20 and all will say what I'm saying , some have already started saying same thing. Now come on ignore. No respect for unobjective troll like you
 

GabeT

G.O.A.T.
That does seem most likely scenario. Fed will always have his claims due to the Wimbledon record, 20 slams, 5 in a row at 2 slams, longevity etc but Nole can put himself up there if he continues to rack up slams and time at number 1. They’re my top 2.
In any case I am very much at the "it's all gravy from here on" stage. Last year it seemed it was all over and then he went on to win another 3 in a row. If Nole wins nothing else I'll still be happy as a fan and he will still have one of the greatest tennis careers of all time.

I shudder to think of a world where none of the Big Three are around.
 

David Le

Hall of Fame
Please explain to me how in the hell does the USO plays like the AO? Besides him winning the recent two, both courts aren’t the same.
 

Sudacafan

Bionic Poster
Djokovic is still 31 and in this era of tennis ,players are playing at very high level In their 30s. With us open literally playing like australian open I see Djokovic dominating there for atleast 3 more years and be a contender till 35. With Murray out of pic I see noone Challenging him at Wimbledon if he makes it to second week of tournament. Guys, how many us open and Wimbledon Djokovic is going to win before he calls it a day .I think 6 us open and 6 -7Wimbledon . Discuss
I don’t know.
 

Djokovic2015

Semi-Pro
Please explain to me how in the hell does the USO plays like the AO? Besides him winning the recent two, both courts aren’t the same.

He worded it badly, but I think his point is that the current USO court plays very similar to the older AO court back when Novak was consistently dominant on it (from 2011-2016) in that its a fairly slow hard court now, which enables the possibility for Novak to dominate on it.

I'm not actually sure if Novak is better on slow hard courts than fast anymore though because the last USO is the only slow hard court he has won on since his resurgence (lost at Canada, Miami and IW all fairly early). Now it could just be small sample size or him just aiming to peak for the majors. We won't really know until he plays the USO again if his form there last year was the outlier or if his slow hard masters are the outlier. What we do know though is that he won Cincy/Shanghai in the same timeframe on faster hards though.
 

Hitman

Bionic Poster
Hope the mod don't delete this thread so we can all look back in the next few years.

We're here to look back on it.

As it stands,

Djokovic has 7 Wimbledon titles and 4 US Open titles

Since this thread was made, he won 3 Wimbledon titles and 1 US Open title.

Time to ask the question again I think, how many of these two slams does Djokovic end his career with?
 

nolefam_2024

Bionic Poster
We're here to look back on it.

As it stands,

Djokovic has 7 Wimbledon titles and 4 US Open titles

Since this thread was made, he won 3 Wimbledon titles and 1 US Open title.

Time to ask the question again I think, how many of these two slams does Djokovic end his career with?
1 Wimbledon cancelled where he was HEAVY favorite, 1 usopen defaulted and 1 uspoen banned. he could have been sitting on 6 usopen and 8 wimbledons now. GOAT.
 

Hitman

Bionic Poster
1 Wimbledon cancelled where he was HEAVY favorite, 1 usopen defaulted and 1 uspoen banned. he could have been sitting on 6 usopen and 8 wimbledons now. GOAT.

He's done OK for himself outside of his pet slam, that is for sure.

He has a full Sampras career outside of his favorite hunting grounds. Not too bad at all.

But it will be interesting as Novak enters what will be the final part of his career now, what his Wimbledon and USO numbers will look like before he rides off into the sunset. He also has done incredibly well there.
 

nolefam_2024

Bionic Poster
He's done OK for himself outside of his pet slam, that is for sure.

He has a full Sampras career outside of his favorite hunting grounds. Not too bad at all.

But it will be interesting as Novak enters what will be the final part of his career now, what his Wimbledon and USO numbers will look like before he rides off into the sunset. He also has done incredibly well there.
8 Wimbledons and hopefully 5 USopens. I won't mind if he never wins another AO now. Win 2 more USopens if he can.
 

soldat

Semi-Pro
Don’t religious folks ignore history and don’t care about copyright? I have faith Djokovic will win at least 2 more Wimbledons and 2 more Us opens, claiming the outright record in most AO, USO and WC.

Bonus Christmas miracle Novak wins another 12 FO’s
 

Razer

G.O.A.T.
He'll most probably win another wimbledon and 2 more AOs. The USOs and Frenchs could become very hard to win now. Next gens will be stronger than ever in 2024-2025 phase, Alcaraz and gang are coming.
 

Jonas78

Legend
He'll most probably win another wimbledon and 2 more AOs. The USOs and Frenchs could become very hard to win now. Next gens will be stronger than ever in 2024-2025 phase, Alcaraz and gang are coming.
Been hearing that the young guns are coming for 10 years... :rolleyes:
 
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