weakera
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At his current pace that's a season and a half. Djokovic still "only" 33.
How many Wimbledon titles would Federer have won on fast grass?
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At his current pace that's a season and a half. Djokovic still "only" 33.
Bamoos
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Yeah true. He should be finished but lucked into the worst era ever lol. Wouldn’t surprise me if he won 10 AO.
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Machan ... as @weakera already said, 3 slams at the rate Djokovic is going, is not much. Besides Nadal at the FO and perhaps the USO, who can possibly stop him?
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There you go, a couple more AOs and he'll be at 19. At nearly 40, I doubt Federer will be much of a threat to him at Wimbledon and the rest of the field, except Nadal, is worthless on grass.
Bamoos
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Thiem can stop him at both HC slams. Medvedev, Zverev, Tsisipas.
Grass I don’t think anyone can. He really is lucky with this era.
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THUNDERVOLLEY
G.O.A.T.
As you see, after more than a decade of Federer fanatics screaming majors count was the marker of a GOAT (nevermind the fact Federer was never that sans the Grand Slam), now that Nadal has matched him, they are vomiting fantasies all over this board, in a attempt to salvage Federer's records in one way or another. Real history (and Nadal and Djokovic) be damned.
Third Serve
Talk Tennis Guru
This thread is quite the glorious mix of rabid Fed fanbois and butthurt haters, indeed.
I salute you all. Peace out.
I salute you all. Peace out.
Bamoos
Semi-Pro
The only garbage is you coming in this thread posting irrelevant drivel. **** off.
Back on topic:
Federer probably wins more.
Nadal and ******** definitely win less.
The really interesting question is who else would be in the mix?
In the past, maybe Henman, Srichaphan, Stepanek, Ljubicic, Lopez, Philippoussis, Tsonga, Llodra or Mahut. I'm going to say the dark horse today might be Humbert. Shapo could go on a run. Dimitrov and Evans might be darkies.
It would certainly be more interesting than quarters stacked with the big 3 and the likes of Goffin, RBA, Pella and Nishikori.
Federer probably wins more.
Nadal and ******** definitely win less.
The really interesting question is who else would be in the mix?
In the past, maybe Henman, Srichaphan, Stepanek, Ljubicic, Lopez, Philippoussis, Tsonga, Llodra or Mahut. I'm going to say the dark horse today might be Humbert. Shapo could go on a run. Dimitrov and Evans might be darkies.
It would certainly be more interesting than quarters stacked with the big 3 and the likes of Goffin, RBA, Pella and Nishikori.
Bamoos
Semi-Pro
octobrina10
Talk Tennis Guru
Fed would have won zero titles. He didn't win any titles before Wimbledon changed the grass.
wimbledon >>>> any other slam
They all got shafted, but Henman is the really ironic one.
It's a bit like Pat Cash and the AO.
mike danny
Bionic Poster
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Maybe he wanted carpet abolished, which is different to wanting slow courts, but even that I don't really buy as Fed did well enough on it at the 2005 YEC desoite his ankle not being 100%.
There was nothing slow about the USO when Fed was winning it.
Jean-François Caujolle raconte le sacre de Federer: «On a suivi ses prérogatives»
Directeur du tournoi de Bercy de 2007 à 2011, Jean-François Caujolle avait un rêve : que Federer gagne à Paris. Il l'a exaucé, n'hésitant pas à suivre les desiderata du Suisse.www.lequipe.fr
Federer has been very vocal about wanting faster courts since ~2010, but you will struggle to find any complaints before then.
Funny how slow courts only became a problem when he stopped winning on them.
Maybe he wanted carpet abolished, which is different to wanting slow courts, but even that I don't really buy as Fed did well enough on it at the 2005 YEC desoite his ankle not being 100%.
BackhandDTL
Hall of Fame
Who cares. He has 8 because he’s not good enough to beat Novak on grass.
deal with it
deal with it
Bamoos
Semi-Pro
Actually he is. Fed with the PS90 won in 4 easy sets.
octobrina10
Talk Tennis Guru
It's wishful thinking.
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In the same way Superman >>>> anyone else. In other words, a fantastic fantasy.
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Now it's all about how Wimbledon >>> the other slams, so Federer must be the GOAT. I suggest the Federer fans try stand-up comedy. They'll do rather well.
What is being discussed here are conditions that require a world class net game and overhead, which ******** does not possess.
Whether you can deal with that or not, it's still a fact.
Machi, everyone knows that Wimbledon has always been the most prestigious tennis tournament in the world.
BackhandDTL
Hall of Fame
It’s hilarious watching these Federinas go beserk.
hard to root for the guy when his fan base is full of crybabies.
hard to root for the guy when his fan base is full of crybabies.
Bamoos
Semi-Pro
Who’s going berserk? You’re one to talk the amount of utter crap you post lol.
Contribute to the topic or **** off, troll.
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Machan ... possible and I have no problem with such a premise. But players like Djokovic don't appear to care much about how prestigious an event may be and rightfully so because 'prestige' doesn't award extra points
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I've seen their definition of GOAT change so often I no longer understand their criteria for GOAT.
GOAT was whoever-
1. had the most weeks at No. 1
2. had the most slams
3. was appreciated more
4. had a more beautiful game
And now it appears GOAT is whoever won more prestigious events
BackhandDTL
Hall of Fame
The GOAT is the player with the most Halle titles and the prettiest backhand.I've seen their definition of GOAT change so often I no longer understand their criteria for GOAT.
GOAT was whoever-
1. had the most weeks at No. 1
2. had the most slams
3. was appreciated more
4. had a more beautiful game
And now it appears GOAT is whoever won more prestigious events
Forget the trolls, the Henman story is interesting.
2002 I think he gets past Hewitt on fast grass and definitely beats Nalbandian. Of course different players may have made it though if the conditions were faster .. but even as an Aussie I think Henman was robbed that year.
2003 and 2004, Grosjean is probably a win for Henman, as is Roddick and Ancic. I'd only put him 50:50 against what was a very in form Scud though.
On fast grass, rank who is tougher for Federer .. Philippoussis, Henman or Roddick?
(That's probably the order I'd put them in)
octobrina10
Talk Tennis Guru
You are a victim of the British propaganda apparatus.
MeatTornado
Talk Tennis Guru
It's not more important than the other slams anymore, but it's 100% the most prestigious tennis tournament. There's not even a debate about that.
MeatTornado
Talk Tennis Guru
Don't forget it was also briefly about who gathered the most prize money.I've seen their definition of GOAT change so often I no longer understand their criteria for GOAT.
GOAT was whoever-
1. had the most weeks at No. 1
2. had the most slams
3. was appreciated more
4. had a more beautiful game
And now it appears GOAT is whoever won more prestigious events
on traditional fast grass Fed wins 1 or 2 Wimbledon’s.
I’m talking in absolute terms. If Fed had to play with wood rackets v the likes of Laver, Hoad, McEnroe, Sampras etc then I don’t think it’s unreasonable to suggest he’d win 1 or 2 Wimbledon’s.
If he had to play with a wooden racquet against Sampras, he'd not win a set .. but that wasn't the question.
Had the AEC not turned the hallowed courts into green clay, who would have beaten him?
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Ignore that troll, he's just in ruins after Rafa equalled Fed in the Slam count and now he's just grasping at straws to ease his pain.
octobrina10
Talk Tennis Guru
Wimbledon is actually a social event, where British celebrities compete against each other.
The Telegraph, July 2017: "For two weeks every summer, all eyes are on Centre Court for the most gruelling battle of the year. No, not the tennis - but the fight to become champion of the Royal Box. Politicians, celebrities and actual Royalty all ruthlessly jostle to become king or queen of Wimbledon. They score points with their outfits, seating positions, and how many front pages they can hog. Competition has been particularly fierce this year...."
The celebrities who took advantage at Wimbledon
For two weeks every summer, all eyes are on Centre Court for the most gruelling battle of the year.
www.telegraph.co.uk
PeoplesChamp
Legend
Wow, some serious Fed hating in this thread. Don't worry about them OP. I do commend you for putting up with them, but they feed off this stuff. They've had enough to eat. Time to starve them.
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PeoplesChamp
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Things a real Fed fan wouldn't say for $1000, Alex.
Thing is, if 2002 was played on fast grass, he would have faced Krajicek (who lost to Malisse in a close 5-set match in real life), or even Sampras again, in the final. He would have lost. Meanwhile, Hewitt might have went down against Escude again.
As for 2003, yeah, he would have made it through Grosjean.
2004, unlikely, since Ancic was also a serve-and-volleyer.
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No Machan ... on the contrary, @MeatTornado is highly respected on this forum because he's not a fanatic who only sees faults with opposing fan groups.
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So anyone who disagrees with your views is Federer hating? Well then we might as well shut this forum down because we cannot have any discussions that disagree with the claims of Federer fans.
MeatTornado
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I didn't vote because there is no 5 or less option.
PeoplesChamp
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There's a difference in disagreeing about something and flaming Fed fans every chance you get. That's what I see on this page. Nothing but trash from you and the backhand guy.
PeoplesChamp
Legend
You made the same joke only a couple days ago. It's a regular thing from you. Anyways, carry on. Everyone sees it. I don't have to point it out again.
MeatTornado
Talk Tennis Guru
I honestly have no idea what you're talking about. I know you don't like me as a poster, but I'd appreciate you not straight up lying about me.
PeoplesChamp
Legend
You made the same joke in a thread that was deleted. You know you did it. Of course I can't prove it now. Doesn't matter because you and I both know. Like I said, carry on. It's a shame because you're a smart guy and make a lot of good posts, but I see through it. We can agree to not respond to each other moving forward if you so wish.
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