Anyone know how much some pros can bench (or give a rough estimate)?
I doubt it's b.s., I just did 3 reps of 300 a couple hours ago and ppl always tell me i look like i can only do 180. And I don't really train professionally as Agassi would and I'm quite smaller than him.Phil said:
Well, people tell ME that I look like I can bench 435, when in fact, I do 5 x 5 of 680 as my regular workout, and I only weigh 128. You figure out the math, stud.I doubt it's b.s., I just did 3 reps of 300 a couple hours ago and ppl always tell me i look like i can only do 180. And I don't really train professionally as Agassi would and I'm quite smaller than him.
Hey, even though Shaq looks big enough to be the NBA, he's actually just one personbaselined said:And the stat about basketball players being #1 in fitness...that's a joke because I can name of quite a few chubby dudes who run the wood floors. If you want truly fit athletes, look to soccer players and motocross riders (believe it or not).
You guys are absolutely right to doubt. I was a personal trainer for 7 years...I have seen a lot of things. I have seen a lot of bench press "claims". Funny thing about these claims is...you take away the spotter...and suddenly you have to call for an ambulance. If Agassi ever put over 300lbs on a bar, he is either not using a full range of motion(required for real bench pressing competition) or ol Gil is "spotting" him...or both. Same goes for Tiger Woods.Kevin T said:Agreed, Phil. Since we're all B.S.ing here, I just came back from the gym. I benched 515# 4 times and squatted 750# 5 times, even though I am only 6'3" 220#. After my grueling workout, I picked up my new girlfriend Halle Berry in my new Porsche convertible for a light lunch at Tavern on the Green. We have a dinner meeting this evening with Donald Trump to discuss my insights on next season's "The Apprentice". Soon after, my wife smacked me upside the head and said to turn off the alarm clock.
Yes, those are keys to a good bench press. And every lifter tends to have a favored lift depending on many factors but certainly body proportions play a huge role! No, you don't have to be enormous to have good genetics and a well trained nervous system which allows you to maximize your power efficiency. BUT these claims are BS period. I can also assure you that even many of those college records are highly suspect. For 3 years I trained college and semi-pro hockey players in the off season for their dry land training. Looking at the team testing records and what I was actually seeing was a joke. Sprint times and weight records were "enhanced". One guy had set the team squat record at 650 lbs. Now he authentically believed he had done this, but was unable to explain why he couldn't go over 450lbs in training. OIf course the usual excuses "adrenalin" etc... ha ha..Kevin T said:incredibly fit and a fine soccer player but he's not benching 300#, just like Shaq isn't going out to run the 400 meter hurdles. A 300# bench is a standard/baseline for most college football players and I just can't lump Agassi into that group. Call me a skeptic.
John, at 5'6 you are 5 inches shorter than Agassi but the same weight. In other words, you are a lot thicker. You believe that Agassi can bench 15-50lbs more than you were? Now granted Agassi may have better training and genetics than you or I....but if this is true, next time he plays the AO in your country he should swing by the power lifting championships and clean up:JohnThomas1 said:@Kevin T, i am 5'6 and 172 pounds and was bench pressing 308. I am sure as heck not an elite athlete and do not have the time or professional hands on that Agassi has. I have no problem at all believing Andre was benching 315, as a matter of fact if he trains seriously with weights anything under would be a disappointment. In 4 years of semi serious weight training i doubled my strength and went from benching 15 X 90 to 10 X 220. Agassi has a lot more going for him. (Time, trainer genetics etc etc)
JohnThomas1 said:Hi Datacipher, thanks for the comments. My original post was always based around a single rep. Agassi doing sets of 315 isn't even believable for gullible old moi lol. As said above, gil would sure be doing one heckuva upright row. The record for a 165 lbs (About) person is 162.5 kg by your page. That's getting around 360 lbs. Take a look at the record for a 148 lbs person, a whopping 382 lbs or so. We also must remember that these contests are based on absolutely perfect form, no bouncing and with a pause at the bottom. These guys also use suits, which definitely add a few kilo to the lift. Now picture Andre in the gym, you think he would bench this weight without a just a little bounce? Just a small bounce at the bottom makes a big difference trust me. I'm not saying he DID do this bench, i'm just saying i myself would believe it.quote]
Fair enough John, it's certainly not completely impossible. and you're correct about the lifting suits being a definite boost, of course I assumed Andre would not be squeezing into a lifting suit during work outs! Nevertheless...usually even the smaller lifters don't "look" like Andre.....I have to see this one to believe it even at 315. We both agree that sets (assuming his sets are more than 1 rep! lol) at 350 is out of the question...