How ruthless do you have to either decide, ne'er become? To be a world class version of yourself?

Discussion in 'Tennis Tips/Instruction' started by kiteboard, Mar 12, 2017.

  1. kiteboard

    kiteboard Legend

    Joined:
    Jun 18, 2009
    Messages:
    5,059
    Most of us are not ruthless at all. We practice cooperatively, and play for fun and exercise and camaraderie and self enjoyment and improvement in our games and characters.

    Most don't try to win in partner situations, but try to help our partner, many times over our own improvements, with our without realizing the truth.

    Yet, we don't intimidate. Beast does not come out. We don't attack with all our skill and might and are not threatening.

    Most of you will say, "We don't have to be ruthless. We don't have to beast out.", etc, or some version.

    Some will realize they have not been willing enough to throw ourselves into all out attack on whatever level that means for you. You just aren't willing to do what it really takes. Or are you?

    Match play reveals the truth. How little of you makes into the arenas. How much. Is up to you and only you. Choking or beasting. Yeah, I know, we don't have to beast out. For the gentlemen, which is most of us, that's true. For the world class versions and real pros, it's false. Not just a physical beast. A screaming, gloating, fist pumping, crowd pumping beast.
     
    #1
  2. SinjinCooper

    SinjinCooper Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Oct 31, 2016
    Messages:
    2,038
    #2
  3. TenFanLA

    TenFanLA Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Feb 9, 2011
    Messages:
    3,470
    World class version of myself is still 4.5 tops.
     
    MethodTennis and Big Serve like this.
    #3
  4. onehandbh

    onehandbh Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Dec 19, 2005
    Messages:
    4,509
    I hit with a guy a few years ago who went into beast mode surprisingly early in a rally. He literally drop fed a screaming shot into the corner. I could barely get a racket on his feed.
     
    #4
  5. junbumkim

    junbumkim Professional

    Joined:
    Aug 6, 2006
    Messages:
    1,489
    Ruthless sounds a little too much for........tennis. No one's life is on the line - literally.
     
    #5
  6. SinjinCooper

    SinjinCooper Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Oct 31, 2016
    Messages:
    2,038
    Unfiltered aggression is the path we choose when we want to feel endorphins because we can't attain legitimate success.

    Discipline, focus, and the intelligence to aim those two weapons at appropriate targets is the way to become your best. Learn how to improve, then do it. Confidence born of competence bagels ruthlessness every time out.

    As a random f'rinstance, if you know losing 50 lbs will make you better, taking the steps to do so will make you a lot better a lot quicker than deciding to peg your opponents with overheads or posting about it on an internet message board.
     
    #6
  7. user92626

    user92626 Legend

    Joined:
    Jan 27, 2008
    Messages:
    7,293
    Eh..it's never a good idea to become a world class ahole without a world class paycheck.
     
    SeeItHitIt likes this.
    #7
  8. J011yroger

    J011yroger G.O.A.T.

    Joined:
    Feb 2, 2007
    Messages:
    13,071
    Location:
    Long Island, NY
    Sorry, I was aiming for the middle.

    J
     
    onehandbh likes this.
    #8
  9. onehandbh

    onehandbh Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Dec 19, 2005
    Messages:
    4,509
    Full disclosure. I must also admit I am sometimes give horrible feeds during groundstroke games. It's not that I hit to the corners, but I have a tendency to hit too short so that the ball bounces twice and have to re-feed.
     
    #9
  10. J011yroger

    J011yroger G.O.A.T.

    Joined:
    Feb 2, 2007
    Messages:
    13,071
    Location:
    Long Island, NY
    People get so mad at me for feeding too hard, I do it totally by accident and have to mentally make an effort to lollipop the ball to them.

    J
     
    #10
  11. heninfan99

    heninfan99 G.O.A.T.

    Joined:
    Oct 17, 2008
    Messages:
    14,137
    super ruthless. it starts with taking over the entire bench with your bag, water jug, towel and a copy of winning ugly
     
    shamaho likes this.
    #11
  12. Todd Hicks

    Todd Hicks Rookie

    Joined:
    Sep 1, 2015
    Messages:
    194
    Location:
    St. Louis, Missouri
    We're supposed to go all out in terms of winning without celebrating too much or rubbing it in.
     
    #12
  13. nytennisaddict

    nytennisaddict Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Aug 20, 2007
    Messages:
    4,104
    Location:
    Westchester (lower), NY
    but your idea of being "ruthless" seems to waste alot of energy.
    are we talking "dirty boxing" in a boxing match, or executing on the tennis courts.
    by ruthless do you mean:
    * staring down your opponent to intimadate them
    * bumping them on the change over?
    * hooking them on close calls?

    in general "ruthless" has a connotation of cheating, or almost cheating.

    or do you mean just aggressive? going for shots you "own" in practice vs. playing the meek safe game.
     
    #13
  14. shamaho

    shamaho Rookie

    Joined:
    May 14, 2012
    Messages:
    371
    Location:
    Portugal
    My take of being "ruthless" to be "best version" you can be (don't care much about world class, but reaching my own highest standard):

    -Being absolutely ruthless about not skipping Gym work... or whatever physical training regimen you defined
    -Being absolutely ruthless about sticking to your optimum nutritional plan to optimize your health and performance
    -Being absolutely ruthless in your commitment to the tennis practices
    -Being absolutely ruthless about keeping your focus in practice, and in match
    -Being absolutely ruthless about being ethical practicioner of the sport
    -Being absolutely ruthless in always striving to learn
    -Being absolutely ruthless in striving for all the above, even when one falls-off the wagon

    So yeah, you have to be pretty ruthless !
     
    #14
  15. nytennisaddict

    nytennisaddict Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Aug 20, 2007
    Messages:
    4,104
    Location:
    Westchester (lower), NY
    i failed. definitely not as ruthless as i could be
     
    #15
  16. shamaho

    shamaho Rookie

    Joined:
    May 14, 2012
    Messages:
    371
    Location:
    Portugal
    :) none of us are... it's a process.. something we keep working on... day in.... day out... fail, get back on the wagon.... fail, learn... back on the wagon... fail, take time-off, back on the wagon.... etc etc
    ad infinitum :)
     
    nytennisaddict likes this.
    #16
  17. kiteboard

    kiteboard Legend

    Joined:
    Jun 18, 2009
    Messages:
    5,059
    Ruthless: Full ruthless means being willing to kill if necessary, and intimidate with a threatening manner that backs up with the goods.

    ?So I'd say, being willing to kill our own weaknesses, whether it's to a stroke, or a psych. Keep the killing in house.

    If your out of hand feeds are jelly bean balls, that's going to teach you to hit those during a match, ie. The people that hate my feeds, are those who I don't hit with. Those who learn to adjust to a tough out of hand feed, learn a lot from it. I'm not talking about double bounce short feeds, but tough, deep, high pace, rpm out of hand feeds, that look and feel ruthless to observers.
     
    nytennisaddict likes this.
    #17
  18. Big Serve

    Big Serve New User

    Joined:
    Sep 7, 2016
    Messages:
    55
    Location:
    Vermont
    I think you should always be your own worst critic. Sounds contrived. But it's the truth! :)
     
    nytennisaddict and kiteboard like this.
    #18
  19. kiteboard

    kiteboard Legend

    Joined:
    Jun 18, 2009
    Messages:
    5,059
    LIsten to this guy. The only way to really improve is to know the real truth, ruthlessly, about yourself.
     
    #19
  20. Bender

    Bender Legend

    Joined:
    Dec 30, 2010
    Messages:
    6,837
    Location:
    Hong Kong
    #20
  21. racket king

    racket king Professional

    Joined:
    Apr 4, 2015
    Messages:
    1,201
    Hahaha! That is brilliant.

    (Even funnier that he stole the speech from the Rocky movie and then added a routine from the Planet of the Apes! :D )
     
    Bender likes this.
    #21
  22. kiteboard

    kiteboard Legend

    Joined:
    Jun 18, 2009
    Messages:
    5,059
    At least bender has a sense of humor. Gotta love the guy's chest pumping screaming reaction. Too bad we don't see that from Nadal.
     
    Bender likes this.
    #22
  23. SinjinCooper

    SinjinCooper Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Oct 31, 2016
    Messages:
    2,038
    Ever tried.
    Ever failed.
    No matter.
    Try Again.
    Fail again.
    Fail better.
    But this time, flex.
    Because you didn't chisel those pecs for nothing, bro.
     
    #23
  24. SinjinCooper

    SinjinCooper Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Oct 31, 2016
    Messages:
    2,038
    #24
  25. kiteboard

    kiteboard Legend

    Joined:
    Jun 18, 2009
    Messages:
    5,059
    The screaming and gloating are only going to \get worse. Not a gentleman's game anymore. Emotion creates the ability to play as a beast. Ie: Serena.
     
    #25

Share This Page