How the flip did they achieve such high launch angle & sick spin on PA '23 demo?

[Aestheticsaboveallelse]

I demo'd either from express or warehouse can't remember, probably express. It was a Pure Aero 2023 after it released, they had it strung black rpm blast mains idk what size and addixion crosses. Normally with this racquet the launch angle is actually pretty low, but this demo automatically had such a high nice super spinny launch angle on every single shot. So now I'm trying RPM Blast blue 1.27 mains 53 lbs/Addixion 50 lb crosses in Pure Aero Origin 290g thinking lower crosses might be part of the trick to high launch angle but no. This string setup did not have the high spinny launch angle at all in fact it was difficult to do high trajectory shots it really wants to drive the ball and stay lower...

What is this mystery I don't understand what voodoo magic they did with the same string setup. What do I need to change?

 

[Kevo]

I would imagine the strings will settle and lose tension after some usage and it will change. It's also possible there is some difference between the black and blue version of the string. And of course how it was strung can make a significant difference. Some places string lock out vs constant pull so the break in is more significant and the performance of the string bed can be quite different even when strung at the same tension.

There are a lot of factors with stringing that can change the feel and performance of a string bed substantially. How a frame is strung is probably the biggest factor in how a frame feels. A pure drive can feel plush with the right setup, and probably any modern frame can feel like a board if strung poorly.

 

[smokeydusky]

A pure drive can feel plush with the right setup, and probably any modern frame can feel like a board if strung poorly.

What set-up can make a Pure Drive (or even a Pure Aero) feel plush??

 

[Aestheticsaboveallelse]

I would imagine the strings will settle and lose tension after some usage and it will change. It's also possible there is some difference between the black and blue version of the string. And of course how it was strung can make a significant difference. Some places string lock out vs constant pull so the break in is more significant and the performance of the string bed can be quite different even when strung at the same tension.

There are a lot of factors with stringing that can change the feel and performance of a string bed substantially. How a frame is strung is probably the biggest factor in how a frame feels. A pure drive can feel plush with the right setup, and probably any modern frame can feel like a board if strung poorly.

But do you know anything that severely raises the launch angle? This is so odd..

 

[Kevo]

What set-up can make a Pure Drive (or even a Pure Aero) feel plush??

String up some Sensation at around 57lbs on a lock out machine. Give it an hour or so of break in. If it makes it past the hour it will be quite plush. It also works with NXT. Tension and break in time may vary a bit depending on your particular lock out machine and clamp set up. YMMV.

 

[Kevo]

But do you know anything that severely raises the launch angle? This is so odd..

Typically a lower tension will give a higher launch angle. Conditions make a difference as well, and the ball can also make a difference.

 

[Aestheticsaboveallelse]

Typically a lower tension will give a higher launch angle. Conditions make a difference as well, and the ball can also make a difference.

I don't think they string demos lower than my 53/50, it always had the very high launch angle regardless of conditions or balls. What a mystery

 

[Kevo]

I haven't demo'd frames in a while, but I don't think any of the demos I ever got were strung hybrid. That doesn't seem like something you would do to a demo frame, but maybe if that was a packaged hybrid they might have. I've not seen that one myself, but I could have easily missed it.

 

[SupahMan5000]

I haven't demo'd frames in a while, but I don't think any of the demos I ever got were strung hybrid. That doesn't seem like something you would do to a demo frame, but maybe if that was a packaged hybrid they might have. I've not seen that one myself, but I could have easily missed it.

buddy got some demos from express that were all hybrids, likely the customer restrung and they never changed it

 

[Aestheticsaboveallelse]

I haven't demo'd frames in a while, but I don't think any of the demos I ever got were strung hybrid. That doesn't seem like something you would do to a demo frame, but maybe if that was a packaged hybrid they might have. I've not seen that one myself, but I could have easily missed it.

Express strings full bed or hybrid depending on what racquet/brand. Rpm blast + addixion hybrid is normal in a pure aero demo

 

[Aestheticsaboveallelse]

buddy got some demos from express that were all hybrids, likely the customer restrung and they never changed it

No express intentionally strings demos as hybrids depending on what racquet and brand. They send a sheet that tells what string setups go in specific racquets

 

[Kevo]

Did you ask them what machine and tension they used on the demo you got? If they do them all the same for that frame it should be easy to find out. I'd start there.

 

[Snipe]

I demo'd either from express or warehouse can't remember, probably express. It was a Pure Aero 2023 after it released, they had it strung black rpm blast mains idk what size and addixion crosses. Normally with this racquet the launch angle is actually pretty low, but this demo automatically had such a high nice super spinny launch angle on every single shot. So now I'm trying RPM Blast blue 1.27 mains 53 lbs/Addixion 50 lb crosses in Pure Aero Origin 290g thinking lower crosses might be part of the trick to high launch angle but no. This string setup did not have the high spinny launch angle at all in fact it was difficult to do high trajectory shots it really wants to drive the ball and stay lower...

What is this mystery I don't understand what voodoo magic they did with the same string setup. What do I need to change?

How many hours do you have on your current setup? Shot in the dark, but I'd expect that the strings on the demo had quite a few hours on them. Maybe it's just a time thing?

 

[Aestheticsaboveallelse]

How many hours do you have on your current setup? Shot in the dark, but I'd expect that the strings on the demo had quite a few hours on them. Maybe it's just a time thing?

I think its the opposite, pretty sure I demo'd right after PA '23 released so it was automatically a fresh string job in that case. Can't remember for sure though how soon after release I demo'd

 

[Aestheticsaboveallelse]

Okay this is ridiculous I had them send me a PA '23 regular demo again with same RPM Blast mains Addixion cross setup and a plus version with same setup as well and its nothing like the PA '23 I originally demo'd that this thread is about. They do not have that super effortless spin nor do they at all have the automatic high launch angle trajectory no matter how you hit.

Some magician imbued my original PA '23 demo with magic, there's no logical explanation here

 

[thebigz]

Okay this is ridiculous I had them send me a PA '23 regular demo again with same RPM Blast mains Addixion cross setup and a plus version with same setup as well and its nothing like the PA '23 I originally demo'd that this thread is about. They do not have that super effortless spin nor do they at all have the automatic high launch angle trajectory no matter how you hit.

Some magician imbued my original PA '23 demo with magic, there's no logical explanation here

Try stringing it 10-15 lbs looser.

 

[Aestheticsaboveallelse]

Try stringing it 10-15 lbs looser.

Good idea thats the only thing that seems like might work

 

[Deleted member 775640]

You got a demo with bagged out strings and it picked the ball up more. You have so many threads where some irretrievable sensation shows up in a racquet. What level are you?

 

[Aestheticsaboveallelse]

You got a demo with bagged out strings and it picked the ball up more. You have so many threads where some irretrievable sensation shows up in a racquet. What level are you?

Thats cause these sensations create the best play ever lol... im a weak player 3.5 ntrp

 

[Deleted member 775108]

You got a demo with bagged out strings and it picked the ball up more. You have so many threads where some irretrievable sensation shows up in a racquet. What level are you?

Thats cause these sensations create the best play ever lol... im a weak player 3.5 ntrp

 

[Deleted member 775640]

image is broken - post it again so i can know

 

[Yamin]

Your demo was underspec. Try thin gauges/multi or put some weight in the buttcap.

 

[Aestheticsaboveallelse]

When only one out of five same racquet with same string setup have amazing effect it indeed must be magic