How to contact Patrick McEnroe??

chalkflewup

Hall of Fame
Are you talking about the intentions of the parent(s) or the kid? What if the kid has every intention of becoming a pro and the parent(s) do not? Would they have to refund a portion of the fees? Who determines intent?
 

tennis5

Professional
That's not why Blackman left and you are mistaken if you truly believe Mayotte resigned.
http://adirondacktennis.wordpress.com/2012/02/03/tim-mayottes-reply-to-the-wayne-bryan-letter/

Tim Mayotte was hired by the USTA to run junior programs at the National Tennis Center. Tim’s playing career included winning the NCAA Championship in singles, getting to the semi finals at Wimbledon and being ranked as high as #7 in the world. His career earnings was $2,663,672 and he won 12 singles titles on the ATP Tour and 1 doubles title. This letter – by Tim Mayotte – appeared on Johan Kriek’s Facebook page.


wayne = Wayne Bryan
jose h = Jose Higueras
jay – Jay Berger

patrick = Patrick McEnroe

His letter:

After almost two years inside the usta player pd i strongly agree with wayne’s outrage over the misuse of funds and the arrogance of that organization.
when jose h, jay berger and patrick were around (which was very rarely) i tried to put them on court with some of our 8, 9, and 10 year olds.
jose flatly said no clearly out of discomfort. jay shared a court with me and was unable to see even the most basic technical changes needed and patrick would bark words parroted from jose’s thinking like “receive the ball.” that had no relevance in the context of what we were working on with the kids. none of the three asked what we were doing or how we were trying to do it.

i understand wayne’s outrage that this group mandate, forces, others to do what they know nothing about. it is my understanding that none of them have ever been to a 10 and under tournament. when i was hired to start and run the usta at the open site i was told to develop “a pipeline of top young 8-12 year olds.” it became clear they did not know how to teach and train and at that point neither did i.

my associate lee hurst was great and as i learned from him we veered from jose’s “philosophy.” when jose visited we were told change to mirror boca. after months of arguing my need for a different approach i found no option but to leave. the predictable has happened; they terminated that group and now only work with players 14 or over who commit to home school. so hundreds of thousands if not millions of dollars and thousands of hours served to only drop players leaving them and parents in the lurch, alienate local pros and deepen the cycle. it was outrageous then to see patrick on tv broadcasting when he could have been on court learning about jr development (isn’t a million a year enough) or jose ensconced in palm springs with the usta paying to send player to his fancy ranch. its all such a waste.

i do think a comprehensive, in-depth, coaches training program should be developed so we can create more great coaches like you guys.
coaching is one of the most complicated endeavours i have been a part of requiring a knowledge of technique, motivational skills, psychology, parent management, etc. we need more and more systematic training.

tim
 

chalkflewup

Hall of Fame
I'm familiar with the letter. And similar to what transpired at Florida recently (public resignation), the coach was relieved of his duties.

Just curious... Does anyone know where Tim landed? Is he coaching anyone on the tour? Was he snagged by IMG, Stan Smith, Lendl or Johnny Mac?
 

TennisNola

New User
I'm familiar with the letter. And similar to what transpired at Florida recently (public resignation), the coach was relieved of his duties.

Just curious... Does anyone know where Tim landed? Is he coaching anyone on the tour? Was he snagged by IMG, Stan Smith, Lendl or Johnny Mac?
Tim is coaching with Lee Hurst and Carl (also formerly at the Flushing center) at Cunningham Tennis Center. Charging a pretty penny from what I understand. Lots of his students are ones who were cut from the Training Center East, some of who he publicly was not very fond of during their tenure.
 

Tennis_Bum

Professional
Excluding the rare exception of a freak of nature, juniors should go to college. The Cahill's and the Gilberts of the world are of the same mindset. College afforded John Isner, Todd Martin, John McEnroe, James Blake, etc... the opportunity to work on their games. Go ahead and use whomever you want to in your examples.
Sounds good to me.
 

TeflonTom

Banned
How do you contact this clown?

He's stolen now 3 players from our local Academy and ruined it. It's really getting out of control and coaches all of the US are in absolute rage over this. It's getting out of hand at this point....

Any way to reach him directly?
hi, i am patmac

your views intrigue me and i would like to subscribe to your newsletter

pls email me at idgaf@usta.com
 

5263

G.O.A.T.
Robert is a better coach then all the USTA coaches combined "Thats a fact" ?
Really a fact?? Then why have his predictions about grip and techniques about the game fallen so short since Pete dominated the tour with his big serve? (not taught
to him by Lansdorp by the way)
He got pretty lucky having Fisher drop Pete in his lap and built on that success, but really did not see where the game was going.
 
http://adirondacktennis.wordpress.com/2012/02/03/tim-mayottes-reply-to-the-wayne-bryan-letter/

Tim Mayotte was hired by the USTA to run junior programs at the National Tennis Center. Tim’s playing career included winning the NCAA Championship in singles, getting to the semi finals at Wimbledon and being ranked as high as #7 in the world. His career earnings was $2,663,672 and he won 12 singles titles on the ATP Tour and 1 doubles title. This letter – by Tim Mayotte – appeared on Johan Kriek’s Facebook page.


wayne = Wayne Bryan
jose h = Jose Higueras
jay – Jay Berger

patrick = Patrick McEnroe

His letter:

After almost two years inside the usta player pd i strongly agree with wayne’s outrage over the misuse of funds and the arrogance of that organization.
when jose h, jay berger and patrick were around (which was very rarely) i tried to put them on court with some of our 8, 9, and 10 year olds.
jose flatly said no clearly out of discomfort. jay shared a court with me and was unable to see even the most basic technical changes needed and patrick would bark words parroted from jose’s thinking like “receive the ball.” that had no relevance in the context of what we were working on with the kids. none of the three asked what we were doing or how we were trying to do it.

i understand wayne’s outrage that this group mandate, forces, others to do what they know nothing about. it is my understanding that none of them have ever been to a 10 and under tournament. when i was hired to start and run the usta at the open site i was told to develop “a pipeline of top young 8-12 year olds.” it became clear they did not know how to teach and train and at that point neither did i.

my associate lee hurst was great and as i learned from him we veered from jose’s “philosophy.” when jose visited we were told change to mirror boca. after months of arguing my need for a different approach i found no option but to leave. the predictable has happened; they terminated that group and now only work with players 14 or over who commit to home school. so hundreds of thousands if not millions of dollars and thousands of hours served to only drop players leaving them and parents in the lurch, alienate local pros and deepen the cycle. it was outrageous then to see patrick on tv broadcasting when he could have been on court learning about jr development (isn’t a million a year enough) or jose ensconced in palm springs with the usta paying to send player to his fancy ranch. its all such a waste.

i do think a comprehensive, in-depth, coaches training program should be developed so we can create more great coaches like you guys.
coaching is one of the most complicated endeavours i have been a part of requiring a knowledge of technique, motivational skills, psychology, parent management, etc. we need more and more systematic training.

tim
This letter by Tim is very accurate , I have seen the same thing going on at the Carson PD for years .
 
Really a fact?? Then why have his predictions about grip and techniques about the game fallen so short since Pete dominated the tour with his big serve? (not taught
to him by Lansdorp by the way)
He got pretty lucky having Fisher drop Pete in his lap and built on that success, but really did not see where the game was going.
PETE , LINDSEY , T. AUSTIN , SHARAPOVA ,MYSKINA, HIS RESUME SPEAKS FOR ITSELF. THE ONLY ONE THAT MATCHES HIM IS NICK.
 

5263

G.O.A.T.
PETE , LINDSEY , T. AUSTIN , SHARAPOVA ,MYSKINA, HIS RESUME SPEAKS FOR ITSELF. THE ONLY ONE THAT MATCHES HIM IS NICK.
Yes, Nick is a good comparison for coaching ability.
Good point you make and good example of how misleading a resume can be.
 
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5263

G.O.A.T.
So sick of hearing that "never made any players" junk. I guess it was ALL coaching that made Pete great. Coaches play a role at different points along the way.
Well let's look at Lansdorp's (RL) contribution to Sampras.

Sampras taught RL the rev Fh...according to Lansdorp himself.
Fisher had to stay on Sampras so RL didn't ruin his Fh making it too flat, and
Sampras still had to learn to hit better topspin on tour (ref a private Fisher interview and Sampras book)
Sampras already had the serve technique and big serve...according to RL.
Fisher went to Budge to develop Pete's one hand Bh.
Fisher had switched Sampras to the one hand Bh to help slice and volley.

Looks like RL worked Pete pretty hard and gave him lots of reps, which is
quite important, but doesnt make him a development genius..
.or does it?
RL also predicted Majors would never be won by players with the more
extreme grips and spin of Nadal or DJ.
 
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BMC9670

Hall of Fame
nick has never made any players from scratch they come to him already made ...
So sick of hearing that "never made any players" junk. I guess it was ALL coaching that made Pete great. Coaches play a role at different points along the way.
Nick has actually said this himself... not that the players are "made", but come to him highly skilled. There was a recent article in Tennis magazine (last year sometime) where he talked about developing a 9 year old boy who had never picked up a racket. He doesn't hide the fact that he's only coached highly skilled players.
 

chalkflewup

Hall of Fame
Nick has actually said this himself... not that the players are "made", but come to him highly skilled. There was a recent article in Tennis magazine (last year sometime) where he talked about developing a 9 year old boy who had never picked up a racket. He doesn't hide the fact that he's only coached highly skilled players.
Exactly my point, but many use that as a defense here which is just silly. Great players learn and move on from their junior coaches. As I've said many times here, it takes a village.
 

BMC9670

Hall of Fame
Exactly my point, but many use that as a defense here which is just silly. Great players learn and move on from their junior coaches. As I've said many times here, it takes a village.
I agree. I say this because I think Nick takes too much credit for certain players. But that's just my sideline opinion. On rare occasion you might see a parent/coach that is constant all the way through, like Wozniacki or Nadal, but they too get outside help from time to time.
 

chalkflewup

Hall of Fame
Not talking about him quitting/fired , thats not what I was agreeing with but with his insights about the coaching.
IMHO his perspective and interpretation of the coaching was soured because he did not resign, he was let go. Obviously with recent succeses from Townsend, Kozlov, Kerznerman, Poppa, Min, and some of the others - the coaching aint't so bad. Tim should have taken the high road.
 

tenniscp

Semi-Pro
IMHO his perspective and interpretation of the coaching was soured because he did not resign, he was let go. Obviously with recent succeses from Townsend, Kozlov, Kerznerman, Poppa, Min, and some of the others - the coaching aint't so bad. Tim should have taken the high road.
I heard through a grapevine that Kerznerman is no longer in Boca since afetr Easter Bowl and trains back home, in New York.

Coincidentally, he won something like 20 matches and four tournaments in a row ever since he left USTA Boca.

Can you confirm if that is true?
 

TennisNola

New User
I heard through a grapevine that Kerznerman is no longer in Boca since afetr Easter Bowl and trains back home, in New York.

Coincidentally, he won something like 20 matches and four tournaments in a row ever since he left USTA Boca.

Can you confirm if that is true?
he is full time now at training center east (usta)
 
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