How to deal with strokes that favor opposite string tensions?

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  1. Moonarse

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    Maybe I'm a wierdo but this is something that is bothering me for a while.

    My western forehand is a wristy fast short whip at the ball (like if Sock and Kyrgios had a child with Poliomyelitis). I Can produce a lot of RHS but I lack some plow thru and consistency.

    My Backhand (by far my best shot, technique wise) is a Eastern grip and I can cross court with a lot of topspin and flatten out some heavy balls too. I Always focused on hitting it more on the snap of the wrist and on the side of the ball with spin like (wawrinka and kuerten) more than the classic haas federer flat slap on the ball.

    On Both sides, I find myself more of a "brusher" then a "crusher", like to play short angles with **** loads of RHS, so sometimes I tend to brush up more than I drive thru (trying to find the balance between brushing and drivin, but playing in the low forties really helped me to amp my forehand in terms of spin bite and penetration.)

    I have been playing with the Pure Aero with 1.30 poly at 45lbs.

    This Low forties simply doubled my FH penetration and spin, I gained some weight on my FH shot from the bite I am getting from low tension poly and the feeling that I can whip it a lot harder.

    On the other hand, since I went to the low lands it has cost me my backhand. Felt like I lost the ability to swing out hard and to flatten out on short defensive (like RoS) strokes. Found myself running away from my backhand and slicing it more. Lost the control of it and started sending nukes to the fence.

    I Know, you will say that the solution is obvious: Find the tension sweetspot for both strokes.

    Went 52lbs yesterday just for experimenting and guess what: My backhand was back, could drive trhu, go big and slap flat when needed. Forehand went from a Bazooka to bb gun. less trampoline and snap back effect that my short fast stroke was feeding on. So I realized this:

    Forehand Tension Sweetspot is on low 40s and Backhand Tension Sweetspot is on mid 50s.

    Question is simple :

    I see that guys that play on low tension and rely mostly on the ball bite and RHS (jack sock as an example) play both of his wings with a technique that favors the mid 30s.

    Even if you think nadal with his high tension stringing, you see that both of his wings are played relied on the same tipe of ball contact.

    Then you see Agassi Murray, Safin, Nalbandian all this fellas play both wings with the same ""type of ball contact objective"", making the right string tension for one stroke beeing perfectly suited for the other.

    Should I work on a forehand that has the same mechanics as my Backhand to find the perfect string balance? Or I will always have to favor one string tension for the stroke I mostly rely, while knowing that 10lbs less would turn a my dagger FH into a Dragonslayer?
     
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  2. StringSnapper

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    Hmm a player that comes to mind is nishikori. He seems to have heavy topspin fh and a flat bh. I think he strings low tension.

    Usually the forehand is the dominant stroke for most players. Do you win more matches with a bazooka forehand strung low or a laser backhand strung high?
     
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  3. Moonarse

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    Definitely I gain consistence and confidence with the string setup for the Nuclear BH. It just sort of make me hit my Stellar FH in a way that I dont feel that confortable, and I end up changing my natural mechanics, stop using the wrist and relying on the bite so much. All the consistence and confidence I get for my BH side vanish from the FH side.

    Btw, kick serves suffer a lot with the tight setup.
     
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    This question really doesn't matter at the 3.0 level
     
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  5. Moonarse

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    Sorry, tought I was at the tips/Instruction section of a tennis Forum that no one is obliged to read nor reply. Thanks for your help!
     
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  6. SinjinCooper

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    Set it up for your backhand, which sounds like your stronger wing relative to your opponents. Work on adding depth and penetration to the FH.

    Leave the cannoli.
     
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  7. ptuanminh

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    With different tension preference on 2 wings, is it because you are using more power from your body on the BH side than your FH side. Your FH has to rely on trampoline effect to get by.
     
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  8. Moonarse

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    Yeah I know. But then again, relying on the trampoline effect as a boost is not a bad thing if your whole game is around that. I would go just fine with low 40s on the FH and Serve, I even got used to volley with it and making drop shots (my Net game is better than my baseline, actually). Even the slices I adjusted to work in LowTen. Just the BH that I couldn't dial in with this setup.
     
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    7lbs and you get this big of a difference? Wow.
     
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  10. ptuanminh

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    relying on low tension string is fine but you are really missing out on your FH. Maybe a tweak in FH technique will give you firepower on both wings. Then you can forget about the string for now.
     
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    string at 48.
     
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  12. RetroSpin

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    Actually this is a good question, although it wasn't phrased as one. Your agonizing over a relatively minor tension difference seems like the kind of thing a >5.5 level player would worry about. No one here will be qualified to help you if that is the case. If, like most here seem to be, you are a 3.5, you're simply wasting people's time because these huge differences are likely delusional.

    If you're somewhere in between, I know I would go with the lower tension and adjust the BH. Basically you are getting help on your two tactically most important shots, the FH and serve, and giving up some on your vanity shot, the BH.
     
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  13. Moonarse

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    First and foremost, we are all wasting time around TT. That is pretty obvious! hahaha

    Forget about the lbs difference I put there in terms of numbers, it was not the point anyway. What Im trying to portrait here is that a "elastic trampoline ball bitter like stringbed VS stiff tight less responsive less ball bite stringbed." and how you can have two different strokes that benefit from different tensions.

    I even said that I am considering to hit more classical on the FH for beeing able to benefit from the same type of stringbed. Problem is I love the feel of the relying mostly on the brush up RHS and the string bite. I actually felt that this 300g unstrung stiff 100sq racquets need a loose stringbed in order to deliver its power. Tight stiff stringbed only enhances its "lightweightness" to the player.

    I normally break 1.30 poly around 8 hours of play. starting as a 45lbs I feel that it goes a lot looser from the 2nd hour beyond. There is someting with lighter (compared to what I was used to play) stiffer frames with low tension poly that clicked my game right away! (came from a pt280 on the 350g strung range).

    And I've been stringing 45lbs for a while. tried it at 52 and felt an instant change on backhand side. Serve lost considerable kick and forehand lost some launch feeling.

    Oh, I just realized that it was strung with the same string but with a different gauge. Stringer run out of the 1.30 and put 1.25. maybe this is the tension gap I felt, too.
     
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    My two cents (which is one less than Esgee gets for some reason) is that you are limiting yourself.

    Look up travlerajm and his thread about esp. you can get both by using a stiff main strung tight and a soft cross strung loose. With at least a 20lb differential you can eat your cake

    Say 60/40lbs to start. He suggests kev/monogutzx. Best of both worlds. Have the stiffness your bh needs and the spin your fh needs. Ashaway sells a hybrid pack:

    http://www.tennis-warehouse.com/Ashaway_Crossfire_ZX_17_String/descpageACASH-XFIREZX17.html

    Though you need to do a major manual prestretch on the zx crosses. Like permanently stretch it at least 1ft

    I do something similar these days with kev/4 g at 86/56lbs.
     
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  15. loosegroove

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    There is only one true answer, behold the Blackburne! Your stringer will love you :confused:

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    I've only experimented a little bit with polys and hybrids myself - I typically play with a snug bed of 17 ga. syn. gut. In my samplings though, I have noticed just how different the feel can be between heavier and lighter gauges of polys. While a 1.30mm poly can feel much too clunky for me, I've tried a couple of skinny polys at around 1.20mm and those had a lot more of the feel that seems "right" to me.

    I quoted those snippets above because my theory is that you might be having trouble with the feel you get with one setup vs another - not the actual performance of the racquet/string combo. If your racquet feels right for one stroke, but wrong for the other, I'd say try a few more setups with certain gauges and tensions to see whether you can strike upon something generally inspires your confidence. Gotta have them good vibrations...
     
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  17. StringSnapper

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    I'd ditch the kick serve then. Just slice and topspin/slice (not fully kick)... works for serena williams.

    I've come to the conclusion that kick serves are mostly a waste of time in rec tennis, unless you can kick it up over 6" consistently... which i've only seen one guy able to do in real life.

    They're also a waste of time on grass courts
     
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    Ideally, all your strokes will work together in sync. But I understand this problem. We all have it (unless we are perfectly synced, which is rare). I say, favor the serve and FH.
     
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  19. esgee48

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    For 3 cents, I would say switch the FH from Western to Semi-Western or a Strong Eastern. The other issue is your inadvertent change in gauge. The thicker 16 Ga will have a slightly higher SW and a lower DT than the 17 Ga. So you really can't draw any conclusions from your "changing grips and string tension" testing.
     
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  20. WhiskeyEE

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    Good advice. Western (full western) forehand is a terrible grip (unless you mostly play on clay) and you will greatly benefit in the long run switching to a 3/4 western if you are struggling to drive the ball on that side. I made the switch a few years back.

    I hit with the same 3/4 western grip on both sides (the orientation of the racquet is slightly different on the backhand since I'm driving the racquet with the thumb). They are equally extreme grips and so I don't have this problem at all. You will run into this issue with such disparity in grips.
     
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    I didn't believe that was a real racquet!

    This seems to be the best solution. Though stringing those second set of crosses has to be terribly frustrating.
     
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    I had a similar issue about ten years ago when I moved from mid-sized framed, then 85 to 90 sw in, to mid-plus frames at 95 sq in. It was great for my forehand and in moving from an eastern to a semi western but I list precision on the backhand.

    My solution came from tips on this board to loosen my wrist and brush up more on the hall. Basically to hit more topspin to deal with the added power and decreased precision of the mid-plus. I can flatten things out to a degree by taking a shorter backswing but the old days of taking a full swing on a flat ball are mostly gone for me.

    For me, the benefits on the forehand outweighed the issues on the backhand so the only solution was to figure out how to make the backhand more effective.
     
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    Simple fix can be keep the racket face more closed on backhands and hit just over the net. If it still goes out then have to increase tension.
     
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  24. FiReFTW

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    You should be able to hit any type of shot ith any string or racquet, be it a high arcing heavy topspin shot, low arcing heavy top spin shot, or whatever other combination.
    Racquet strings or raquet might make it slighly more natural and easier to hit certain shots, but they do not limit you to certain shots and make others impossible to execute.
    So i find this question a bit odd, like you are only capable of hitting one type of shot from each wing, I dont really get it.
     
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  25. rogerroger917

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    I want to see both on video. I can't for the life of me see how a 10lb change in string tension can make this happen. Are you a complete beginner? If so just play more and this won't be an issue.
     
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    I don’t understand how you your backhand is your stronger side but yet you have a hard time controlling it with the lower tension. According to the experts here the lower tension has better control.lol
     
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    Serve + FH >>>> BH

    Leave it low tension and groove your BH until it gets used to the lower tension.

    That's exactly what I did--my issues with tension are basically identical to yours. Spinny and pacey 2nd serves hit the net unless I string at lower tensions. Forehand net clearance is beautiful with low tensions. BH is a flatter shot that can go out with lower tensions.

    Found out that I tighten up more than I thought I was on my backhand, which the low string tension brought out. Once I loosened up more, both sides started working again, back to their ideal levels.
     
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    I totally get it. An extreme grip on the fh which produces a spinny shot but a more flat bh shot that drives through the court. Totally plausable.
     
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    Lol indeed. Its a spinny stroke vs a flat stroke. Lower tension is higher launch angle which on an a flat stroke is a big deal
     
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  30. Dolgopolov85

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    Nah, lower tension in strings gives more power. It's lower frame stiffness (RA) that gives more control/less power. I think the suggestion above to ditch the Western grip is a good one if power on the forehand is a problem with a Pure Aero. It is already a powerful racquet so it may be the Western grip producing balls that are too short.
     
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    When teaching, I’d use a low-ish 22-24 k to be able to hit easy flats and use the bounce, but since I now only have my game rackets at the moment, they are strung with Lux alu pwr 138 @27 k, which quite much dulled the minimal feel on my Pure Drives. Restringing them at 25, cause I happen to buy 4 rounds of the same by accident. Next will be much thinner though.

    However, I’d compare the orientation of the string bed acording the used grips at impact and figure whether the deficit on better wing would be worked around by grip change. If going straight to the same orientation on same type of shots, I’d tweek it gradually, say within the next couple of weeks, 10 to 20 hrs or so.


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    String for your weapons. Learn to adapt with your weaker side.
     
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    Funny thing is everyone agrees (I think) that string tension preference has nothing to do with the level you play. You see pro's stringing from 30lbs to 70lbs based on confort and stroke tipe. But yet I'm labeled as ultra beginner just because I said that I Prefer my Forehand on the low tension level while my backhand favors a tighter string

    If two different players with different strokes can string it with extremely different tensions and that is tottaly acceptable, why can't I feel the diference based on each shot I have?
     
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    I think that most here understand your issue. But the practical solution that many have suggested is to modify your backhand to adjust to the lower tension and the changes it makes to the resulting backhand ball that you hit. That's what I've done and it has worked out nicely. That way you get your bigger weapons and a decent, though different, backhand. I don't think that anyone really likes making changes to strokes as it takes a while (usually 6 months for me), but you feel and play better after the transition.

    Just think about Federer making the transition from the 90 mids to the 97 sq in RF97. That's a huge difference with a more open and more powerful frame and you can see the big changes that he made to the backhand and how effective it was at the Australian Open last year. If a top player like Federer had to make the change to use his new racquet, how much moreso mere mortals like us need it.
     
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    It depends so much on what kind of shot maker one is, not so much of the level, you play. Having a touch less tension, will give you more ball speed with less effort, while at the same time, you loose some of the control.

    Stringing is allways a compromise. And one can adapt to basically which ever way. I have a lot of speed in my racket head, and don’t suffer from RSI in my hand, yet 1-hander on both sides. I have gone after the more controll end. Changing to multifalaments, would probably be a good idea later, when old, but now, in early 50’s, I feel fit and technically skilled enough to use poly.

    Having a fairly stiff tour racket, it is possible to have it play easier on the hand by using suitable strings and lower tension. I used to have some Boris Bekker type rackets back in the day, 50/50 carbon after 80/20 carbon model, but the 50/50 version seemed really like hitting with a licorice bar, yet strung at 25-28 k.

    As I left the sticks at the pro shop, the stringer was quite impressed, that I had a diary of what I’ve had before date by date and with expressions how they’ve played and knowing excactly, what I want from him.


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    Actually I was really keen on beeing able to ditch the western Forehand ( I hold it like Im flipping a pancake on a frying pan, never know if it is consider Western or semi western) and go to a more slappy forward eastern, I tend to Spin the ball a lot, but usually with this windshield wiper forehand I have, I tend to feel that I dont slap the ball forward as much as I brush up.

    I don't really want to change the forehand, but I do think that my game would be stronger adjusting the FH to my BH than the oposite.

    But then again, I only play clay, so the whippy spinny forehand has its place...

    Edit: I say that Because when hitting against the wall I can feel how easier it is to hit trhough the ball loosely with a Eastern Forehand... I never gave the attention for that because I'm working on a way to achieve the same "Loosiness and drivethroughness" with the Western.
     
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    Sir, I'm not saying that this 10 lbs difference makes me not beeing able to hit or play in "the same level". It is more on the feedback feeling of the shot, and the feedback of that feeling is what makes you feel confortable to use the mechanics you developed with more confidence.

    I Started this thread saying that maybe my forehand is overbrushed and even joked about beeing son of sock and kyrgios with polio, so of course Im not saying that both of my shots are perfect and that I dont need to work on it. But the truth of the matter is that with the lower tension, my fast short brushed FH tends to work amazingly better, short angles, depht-wise, spin weight on the ball.

    I'm on the 4.0/4.5, problably by playing more I will find a way to fix this anyway, but maybe I could fix this issue still using the low forties, and then ad some weight on the spin.
     
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    Federer had to make adjustments for a more powerful frame. I don't think that the level makes that much difference. At decent levels, you notice it. You can compensate but it still doesn't feel right.
     
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    Again, I'm not saying I can't hit both shots (and all the other shots I tend to use) with whatever tension it is in. Point Is I am struggling with having a Forehand that exceeds in Low tension, while the Backand amps with high. Is it that hard to understand?

    You guys seem to be offended with this matter... always pointing that I would need to be a pro to feel that difference, or too much of a beginner, yet there are three thousand thread about "My game only Works with a prostock" and "There is no racquet for me in the shops" and "tested 300 strings, not one works for me" and no one seems to rave about it.

    Tennis is a hard bone for us Recs, let me have my struggle on the tensions of my strings, while others have trouble with putting all the lead on 12' or sharing between 9' and 3'.
     
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  40. moonballs

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    The poly will lose a lot of tension as you play it, unless you cut it out well under 10hours of playing time. Jack socks 35lb always fresh string bed is very different from the rec players low tesnsion set up. Besides it is not just forehand and backhand. The serve is more important than the backhand. How is that one fair I f under different tensions?

    So the suggestion of 48lb earlier is what I’d go with in your situation.
     
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    Tend to like my serve better on a lower tension, as I feel that I can brush the ball with more bite for the kick and slice serves. For the flat first serve I don't see much difference.
     
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    Tension of 10 lbs doubles your fh penetration and sends your backhand into the back fence.

    Yes you did say it is a monumental charge. If it is simply a feel thing that you now are saying this original post is a waste and why even post it. You answered your own question.



     
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  43. Moonarse

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    It is not only feel, sir. It is a fact that I have to adjust my Forehand to the tight net as much as I have to adjust the Backhand to the loose one. You just don't want to accept it.

    Yeah you got it, I'm no pro. This is bothering me nonetheless and I wanted to discuss with the guys on the board, am I alowed?

    The whole thread was about knowing if someone else has/had this issue and inf so, how could it be fixed, I'm not discussing if this affects my game or not, because that is a fact!

    Feeling, confort, stroke type, all comes toghether at the end for us to play our best tennis, so, even if it is "only a feel thing" do you have anything to share on how to fix this subject?

    Or you are just inclined to keep say ingthat this is a pointless thread and that string tension change does't affect the mechanics of my game at all?
     
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    I was thinking the same thing. I have tried tensions from 58lbs down to the 40's, and while I do notice a difference in spin and weight of shot, none have ever made so much of a difference I couldn't control the ball. It does take some adapting with the amount of force I find I need to apply to control it a bit more though.

    I guess in my mind though, I would find whatever tension kept the balls out of the net, or whatever makes them fly long and work down. Always go for longer than shorter and correct I suppose.
     
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  45. Pete Player

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    I say, that 5k is really a big difference. However not sure, if it would be, had the starting tenson been 2 to 3 k less. I can feel 2 lbs for sure.

    Have to have something to do with the string type. And might become more evident at the treshold of loosing the elastic features of the string.


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  46. ptuanminh

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    Lol what are you guys talking about? Even 3, 4lbs in tension is a lot of difference. I am no high level player but when i increase my cross string tension from 48 to 52, I already can not hit certain shots like slice or drop shot. Its quite a difference.
     
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    You are absolutely allowed to ask. But you can ask and people will spill out all kinds of replies and you have to pick the ones that are useful to you. Opinions are all over the place here and the useful nuggets are outweighed by the folks that think that they know you better than you do.
     
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  48. tlm

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    You say lower tension gives more power? Ya that’s what I always thought to but there are many here that claim low tension gives as much or more control than high tension. They will tell you all about launch angle and how much more spin you can get with low tension so the extra spin will give you more control and on and on with the endless low tension is better in all ways it’s pretty entertaining actually.
     
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  49. Dolgopolov85

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    lol, haven't heard that one but you've been around longer here than I have so you know better. I thought launch angle gets accentuated by string pattern rather than tension? Idk, lol.
     
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  50. rogerroger917

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    Yes. If a 10lb. Tension difference results in balls twice as powerful on your fh and sails your backhand to the back fence I suggest more practice. It's not string tension causing this. Purely weak technique.

    And yes you are allowed to discuss whatever you want. But don't be surprised if people read your post and respond to the post as written. If you meant it feels different and affects my game the answer you already gave yourself. And other have. 48lbs. That's the apparent answer.

    If you are looking for the answers to:

    10lb. Tension difference results in balls twice as powerful on your fh and sails your backhand to the back fence.

    My answer is:

    I suggest more practice. It's not string tension causing this. Purely weak technique.

    Or maybe dial down the drama on your string tension and say what you actually mean the first time. Which is what I and others responded to.
     
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