How to register a complaint against a sandbagger

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Majik

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I was winning most of my matches last term. But this first game of this term I didn't do so well. The guy I played was an obvious sandbagger. He really shouldn't even be playing at this level. He's at least a 0.5 level higher. How do I register a complaint with USTA against such a player?

I looked up my opponents record for last term. He won every match he was in, but his captain kept him in doubes to hide him from USTA.

We had a guy on our team last year who got disqualifed in the middle of the season, along with all his matches. But we had him playing first single because he was so good. I suppose if we had hidden him in doubles play, he would have not been disqualified. I don't expect to have my recent opponent disqualified on the basis of my complaint, but I think I may need to complain so that when other teams complain our objections will add up to getting him disqualified.
 
If he is computer rated, then you won't get him disqualified. Since he played last season, then my guess is he is computer rated and he was simply fortunate not getting bumped. "He's too good" will not help in an NTRP complaint. You would need to show that he was manipulating his scores to have any luck - and that is almost impossible to prove.

Also - doubles counts towards ratings. I've seen players that only play doubles get disqualified.
 
So it's okay when your team has a sand bagger but when you get beat by one you want to complain? I say just grow up and maybe get better?
 
It's always funny when one person who wins almost all of their matches, complains when they encounter another who happens to beat them.

Dont bother complaining, the league will just laugh at you.

(unless you know he was a top ranked player or played in college or something)
 
Majik said:
I was winning most of my matches last term. But this first game of this term I didn't do so well. The guy I played was an obvious sandbagger. He really shouldn't even be playing at this level. He's at least a 0.5 level higher. How do I register a complaint with USTA against such a player?

I looked up my opponents record for last term. He won every match he was in, but his captain kept him in doubes to hide him from USTA.

We had a guy on our team last year who got disqualifed in the middle of the season, along with all his matches. But we had him playing first single because he was so good. I suppose if we had hidden him in doubles play, he would have not been disqualified. I don't expect to have my recent opponent disqualified on the basis of my complaint, but I think I may need to complain so that when other teams complain our objections will add up to getting him disqualified.
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Maybe you should drop down a level and become a sandbagger yourself...If you feel the need to win every match....When I hear he's a whole .5 better then you....OMG tennis is about competition...
 
you can file a complaint against the player through your usta team captain but there are a few things you might want to consider first. as was stated earlier if he has a benckmark computer rating you will not get him dq'ed, even if every captain in the state complains. and if he only a .5 level higher than you and he is winning all his matches he will get bumped in due time. you must also realize that ratings are done completely by a computer and that there is not some "plot against you" by the system. you should also not be upset with someone for playing doubles, as there are no rules stating that the best player one the court should play #1 singles. the doubles matches factor into his rating, just as the singles matches do. the ONLY way he will get dq'ed by something other than the computer is if you can prove that he lied when rating himself into the usta, they have several questions you must answer upon signing up. just my 2 cents
 
bwaid88 said:
you can file a complaint against the player through your usta team captain but there are a few things you might want to consider first. as was stated earlier if he has a benckmark computer rating you will not get him dq'ed, even if every captain in the state complains. and if he only a .5 level higher than you and he is winning all his matches he will get bumped in due time. you must also realize that ratings are done completely by a computer and that there is not some "plot against you" by the system. you should also not be upset with someone for playing doubles, as there are no rules stating that the best player one the court should play #1 singles. the doubles matches factor into his rating, just as the singles matches do. the ONLY way he will get dq'ed by something other than the computer is if you can prove that he lied when rating himself into the usta, they have several questions you must answer upon signing up. just my 2 cents
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This is not consistent with my experience. We had a teammate disqualified in the middle of his first USTA season. He played in highschool, but that was 20 years ago. I think the difference was that he played first singles which is more visible to the computerized USTA rating system. I was told he was disqualified on the basis of a complaint from the opposing side.
 
beernutz said:
F for reading comprehension but
A for being a ******bag
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F for reading comprehension but
A for being a ******bag


HAHAHAHA you must actually take this stuff seriously. gotta win every match in 3.5!!
 
You need a basis for complaint - showing that the opponent lied when they registered. You can't just say that the opponent was too good - the computer is supposed to sort that out.
 
The guy I played was an obvious sandbagger. He really shouldn't even be playing at this level. He's at least a 0.5 level higher.
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Now I'm an old timer who doesn't know much about USTA but since it is claimed that a high level player will beat a low level player with the same rating, 3.5, 4.0, whatever 6-0, 6-0 am I to understand that you failed to earn more than one or two points against this sandbagger? Because if you won even one one game than according to the rules you are at the same level.
 
Majik said:
This is not consistent with my experience. We had a teammate disqualified in the middle of his first USTA season. He played in highschool, but that was 20 years ago. I think the difference was that he played first singles which is more visible to the computerized USTA rating system. I was told he was disqualified on the basis of a complaint from the opposing side.
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as i said you can be dq'ed if you are self rated in like your player was. if a computer rating was generated or the player was benchmarked they will not be dq'ed, simply bumped. singles are not more visible to the computer at all. the computer simply looks at a number rating (ex. 3.568) to see where you stand. this number is always changing as you beat people and depending on who they have beat. the only way he could have been dq'ed by the usta on the basis of a complaint is if he lied about something upon signing up for the usta league.
 
The other posters are right - information about your opponent's level of play, win/loss record, exceptional technique, etc. will not be considered if you file an appeal. The only thing that will be considered is evidence of tennis experience that wasn't disclosed when your opponent rated himself. This might include competitive play as a junior, a very high level of achievement in another sport, participating on a college team - that kind of thing.
 
On the question by the OP.

When you be on the phone with yo mamma, say, "de only reason I lost wuz becuzz de guy wuz a sandbaggah!"
 
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