how to tell when poly's are dead

dnj30

Semi-Pro
Can someone give an explanation of how poly strings perform differently when they've gone dead. I play a hybrid of tour bite/addiction or luxrough/addiction. They usually break after about 10-12hrs playing time which covers roughly 3-4weeks for me. Are they dead before they are breaking?
 

Rozroz

G.O.A.T.
let's make it a:

YOU KNOW WHEN YOUR POLY IS DEAD WHEN:
1.
2.
3.
4....

(not that i personally can tell yet, but i wanna be well prepared ;) )

*and no Monty Python jokes please.
 

fortun8son

Hall of Fame
let's make it a:

YOU KNOW WHEN YOUR POLY IS DEAD WHEN:
1.
2.
3.
4....

(not that i personally can tell yet, but i wanna be well prepared ;) )

*and no Monty Python jokes please.

1. When you notice the difference and don't like it.
 

fgs

Hall of Fame
basically there are two distinct ways polys behave when gone dead -
1. you start spraying balls, they become sort of a trampoline - kirschbaum pro line II, most isospeed strings
2. the ball literally sticks to the strings and you have to start overhitting in order to get that darn ball over the net - luxilon alu power, solinco revolution.

the latter are the most dangerous for your joints, the others only might get you to pay for some fence damages:)
the most decieving ones also are the latter mentioned, since you initially think you have more control in the sense that no matter how hard you hit you still make the court. the best indication is when you have trouble raising your hand to drink the breakfast coffee/tee the next day.:)
 

Rozroz

G.O.A.T.
basically there are two distinct ways polys behave when gone dead -
1. you start spraying balls, they become sort of a trampoline - kirschbaum pro line II, most isospeed strings
2. the ball literally sticks to the strings and you have to start overhitting in order to get that darn ball over the net - luxilon alu power, solinco revolution.

the latter are the most dangerous for your joints, the others only might get you to pay for some fence damages:)
the most decieving ones also are the latter mentioned, since you initially think you have more control in the sense that no matter how hard you hit you still make the court. the best indication is when you have trouble raising your hand to drink the breakfast coffee/tee the next day.:)

very interesting!
good to know that there can be 2 types of 'deaths' to polys.
 

fgs

Hall of Fame
yeah, this is one of the situations in life in which you can make an option.:)
 

Rozroz

G.O.A.T.
but, the 'trampoline death' doesn't really feel like a death is it?
the 'arm killer' sounds more grim to me ;)
who in his sane mind would pick the second option??
 

fgs

Hall of Fame
the trampoline you feel and you can simply switch sticks when you see you hit the fences too often.

the other ones give you the weird feeling you have so much control and the string has just broken in! look at all the luxilon players in the recreational sector. the pros go through it in two-three hours and it breaks before it goes dead. some even have the weird idea that it takes some pain in order to accomplish something and keep playing with it until it is too late. same goes for high tensions - a lot of these people pride themselves of stringing full poly really high in so called players sticks with 95 sq.in or less and eventually also a dense string pattern.
 

Rozroz

G.O.A.T.
yea i know the pain of too high tension.
60# for me feels close to what you describe as dead poly.
half of my back and neck strained the next morning.
 

tball

Semi-Pro
The best method I know: have 2 racquets. String one with syn gut (or maybe even natural), the other, with poly (or hybrid). When you take them to the court the next day, I bet you'll find that you like the poly better. Syn Gut usually feels boardy and/or dead for me. Then, try again, in say, 2 weeks from now. You will see dramatic difference. The poly racquet will either play wild or dead. The Syn Gut one will feel "nice": springy, controlled. That's the sign!
 

dre

New User
basically there are two distinct ways polys behave when gone dead -
1. you start spraying balls, they become sort of a trampoline - kirschbaum pro line II, most isospeed strings
2. the ball literally sticks to the strings and you have to start overhitting in order to get that darn ball over the net - luxilon alu power, solinco revolution.

the latter are the most dangerous for your joints, the others only might get you to pay for some fence damages:)
the most decieving ones also are the latter mentioned, since you initially think you have more control in the sense that no matter how hard you hit you still make the court. the best indication is when you have trouble raising your hand to drink the breakfast coffee/tee the next day.:)

+1
french press and Advil: Breakfast of Champions.
 

Rozroz

G.O.A.T.
i wanna know if it's dead only by checking it on the racquet.
so as i understand, when you move it and it doesn't slide back?
what other 'marks' i can find only by checking the string on the racquet?
 

fgs

Hall of Fame
you can't SEE dead string! you can only feel it by playing. there are no optical signs or clues indicating that the string has passed over.
 

Rozroz

G.O.A.T.
no, not optical. didn't mean that at all.
i meant by stretching or moving the strings to find out.
 

Wikky

Rookie
There really no sure way to tell. One way that was suggested to me was to take the two center mains at the bottom of the racquet and pinch them together. If you can't touch your 2 fingers together then the strings are probably still at or above recommended tension. If you can then the strings significantly loser... or you have really strong fingers, kinda why i didn't take the advice very seriously.
 
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