Nadal is unaffected. At best perhaps AO 2012 and W2018 he would have bagged but apart from that at Major level Djokovic has had little impact on his career. AO 2019 nadal looked better than he was actually and was lucky Federer choked 19 BPs v Tsitsipas as had he met Federer he would have been hammered. Federer has suffered the most without doubt. At least 3 Wimbledons and a couple of US opens Djokovic has cost him. I personally think Nadal would happily retire on 19 slams. No way he would have thought he would get that many. Federer i feel may be frustrated knowing he should have beaten Courts record.Who do you think benefited more? Also, imagine Nole had peaked in 2012 instead of 2011. Would that change the goat race in any way?
Nadal has hurt Djokovic more than the other way round which Djokovic has admitted many times and why he always says Nadal is his greatest rival. Given the ages of the three it is not a surprise. Federer at 6 years older than Djokovic in reality was a different era peak wise.There's a very tight race between Fed and Rafa in imaginary alternative history scenarios (they are far more successful than Novak in this category), so I genuinely can't tell. I guess it's up to their fanbases to resolve which one woulda coulda win more.
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What about how Nadal has hurt Djokovic? FO 2012 2013 2014, USO 2010 2013 and probably others i have forgotten. Out of the three i feel Nadal has overachieved the most in the sense he has had less disappointments. Getting more intricate im not sure Nadal can be frustrated about any of the ones you mention as Djokovic is a better hard court and grass player. Djokovic probably accepts the FO losses. I think Nadals 2 US Open wins over Djokovic are the most damaging losses either has suffered.Let's see:
Fed definitely wins 2011 AO, 2014 Wimb, 2015 Wimb, 2015 USO, 2016 AO and 2019 Wimb.
Nadal definitely wins Wimb 2011, AO 2012, Wimb 2018 and AO 2019.
50/50 at USO 2011 between Fedal.
Fed would be ahead, IMO. 26 slams to 23.
Nadal lost 3 slam finals in a row to Djokovic plus that Wimb18 and AO19 runNadal is unaffected. At best perhaps AO 2012 and W2018 he would have bagged but apart from that at Major level Djokovic has had little impact on his career. AO 2019 nadal looked better than he was actually and was lucky Federer choked 19 BPs v Tsitsipas as had he met Federer he would have been hammered. Federer has suffered the most without doubt. At least 3 Wimbledons and a couple of US opens Djokovic has cost him. I personally think Nadal would happily retire on 19 slams. No way he would have thought he would get that many. Federer i feel may be frustrated knowing he should have beaten Courts record.
I call 2011 50/50.Nadal lost 3 slam finals in a row to Djokovic plus that Wimb18 and AO19 run
That's 5 slams for him at the top of the head
Fed was lucky he didn't get to face Rafa in those Us Opens
You do realize Fed has lost more slams to Djokovic than Nadal, right? He has been anything but lucky.Nadal lost 3 slam finals in a row to Djokovic plus that Wimb18 and AO19 run
That's 5 slams for him at the top of the head
Fed was lucky he didn't get to face Rafa in those Us Opens
Well, this is assuming everything else stays exactly the same. (which was not going to happen. Things would change, maybe other players would be better and so on)Let's see:
Fed definitely wins 2011 AO, 2014 Wimb, 2015 Wimb, 2015 USO, 2016 AO and 2019 Wimb.
Nadal definitely wins Wimb 2011, AO 2012, Wimb 2018 and AO 2019.
50/50 at USO 2011 between Fedal.
Fed would be ahead, IMO. 26 slams to 23.
I think the bigger tennis story -- and the one that is most seldom brought up -- is the total failure of the next generation, or lost generation, of tennis. Has any renowned tennis player ever been as lucky as Djokovic to have absolutely no competition coming up behind him to challenge him? Fed had Rafa and then Rafa had Djoke and Murray to push them and take some titles from them. Djoke has had no one and he has coasted to many freebies.Fed and Nadal would be past 25 slams each for sure or would have retired earlier. But I still cannot imagine them without Djokovic 2.0. The Big 3 is by far the greatest tennis story.
Has any renowned tennis player ever been as lucky as Djokovic to have absolutely no competition coming up behind him to challenge him? Fed had Rafa and then Rafa had Djoke and Murray to push them and take some titles from them. Djoke has had no one and he has coasted to many freebies.
Duh. Nadal had both Djokovic and Murray, and even del Potro, to challenge him. The only one who competed against Djoke was Murray until his body broke down.Why do you think that Djokovic is lucky, but not Nadal? They are almost the same age and play the same field?
It is not true. The two deprived each other of 5 grandslam titles - Djokovic prevented Nadal win Wimbledon 2011 & 2018, US Open 2011, Australian Open 2012 & 2019; Nadal prevented Djokovic win US Open 2010 & 2013, French Open 2012-2014. Their remaining grandslam matches didn't decide the winner of the tournament.Nadal has hurt Djokovic more than the other way round which Djokovic has admitted many times and why he always says Nadal is his greatest rival. Given the ages of the three it is not a surprise. Federer at 6 years older than Djokovic in reality was a different era peak wise.
But while Djokovic should beat Nadal in Australia and wimbledon nadal should not be beating him in New York really as it goes against their general HC h2h.It is not true. The two deprived each other of 5 grandslam titles - Djokovic prevented Nadal win Wimbledon 2011 & 2018, US Open 2011, Australian Open 2012 & 2019; Nadal prevented Djokovic win US Open 2010 & 2013, French Open 2012-2014. Their remaining grandslam matches didn't decide the winner of the tournament.
Djokovic is a better player in Australia and wimbledon so we cannot say nadal lost slams when he lost to Djokovic there.Nadal lost 3 slam finals in a row to Djokovic plus that Wimb18 and AO19 run
That's 5 slams for him at the top of the head
Fed was lucky he didn't get to face Rafa in those Us Opens