#HowSurprised are you......?

BVSlam

Professional
Thinking with my 2005 brain, very surprised. Then again, that brain is actually shocked Fed has even been playing for the last seven years even considering his physically efficiënt point construction and relative lack of injuries.

However, current brain sees that times and fitness levels have changed and that stopping when you're 28 is not the norm anymore in modern times. And considering Nadal is a very special talent, all of a sudden this makes more sense.
 

smalahove

Hall of Fame
I am surprised, not only that Nadal is #1, but also that Djokovic is #2 and Federer #3.

Three kings of tennis in an era with no princes.
it’s pretty amazing that the serious contenders to the big three are at least 10 years younger ... Fed vs Tsitsipas’ last encounter highlighted the importance of speed, so it will be very interesting to see how Rafa and Novak will fare the coming years, as they still have a bit more spring in their legs comp to Roger.

but still ... 10 to almost 20 years diff ...
 

King No1e

Legend
5 years ago I thought he would be on a steep decline by 2019, something like Sampras in 2001. But here he is, with even better Slam results than he had 5 years ago.

Very very emotional year for me, no? It's just ombellible feeling, hard to describe right now, no?
 

Mike Sams

Legend
That Nadal is still slaying and world #1 headed into 2020?

And give me your 2020 predictions for him please.
Nadal is the firm favourite for the French Open 2020 even if he goes in without winning a single clay title. He's capable of playing into form and reaching his stride in the second week which is enough to handle most anyone. But 2020 will be different in a way as they will have the roof and air conditioning at Philip Chatrier from what I know. So it could help certain players like Djokovic and Thiem if they meet Nadal under the roof. Nadal obviously the favourite because the French is his domain and the surface suits him but again, if he's not physically or mentally in top form and his opposition rises and meets him with a closed roof then it could get very interesting.
As for Melbourne, Nadal is probably second favourite after Djokovic on paper but if he gets a tough draw with Thiem, Medvedev, Dimitrov, Federer on his side then going through any 2 or 3 of those guys in succession could be physically very taxing. If Djokovic is in top form and waiting for him in the final, it's highly unlikely Nadal will win the title there unless he can summon his 2012 warrior mode and go one step further and shock everyone. But hard to see that happening at this age where he's not able to run endlessly for balls and defend as well as he did in 2012.
Not sure if Nadal can deal with the Federer/Djokovic dynamic at Wimbledon. Getting through even one of those guys will take him some luck, let alone going through both.
I can't see Nadal repeating his US Open feat. Seems players struggle to win the US Open in back to back seasons the past decade. And I feel the competition will be tougher the next go round.
 

MichaelNadal

Bionic Poster
Nadal is the firm favourite for the French Open 2020 even if he goes in without winning a single clay title. He's capable of playing into form and reaching his stride in the second week which is enough to handle most anyone. But 2020 will be different in a way as they will have the roof and air conditioning at Philip Chatrier from what I know. So it could help certain players like Djokovic and Thiem if they meet Nadal under the roof. Nadal obviously the favourite because the French is his domain and the surface suits him but again, if he's not physically or mentally in top form and his opposition rises and meets him with a closed roof then it could get very interesting.
As for Melbourne, Nadal is probably second favourite after Djokovic on paper but if he gets a tough draw with Thiem, Medvedev, Dimitrov, Federer on his side then going through any 2 or 3 of those guys in succession could be physically very taxing. If Djokovic is in top form and waiting for him in the final, it's highly unlikely Nadal will win the title there unless he can summon his 2012 warrior mode and go one step further and shock everyone. But hard to see that happening at this age where he's not able to run endlessly for balls and defend as well as he did in 2012.
Not sure if Nadal can deal with the Federer/Djokovic dynamic at Wimbledon. Getting through even one of those guys will take him some luck, let alone going through both.
I can't see Nadal repeating his US Open feat. Seems players struggle to win the US Open in back to back seasons the past decade. And I feel the competition will be tougher the next go round.
Nadal winning Wimbledon is the single most epic thing that could happen in tennis (besides Venus winning, which she should have in 2017) But yeah, if Fed/Djokovic have an off year and Nadal somehow ends up in the semis again, watch out!! :D too early to talk about now but im liking what I've seen since the USO from Rafa he's not playin with that ball :p
 

Sport

Legend
Thinking with my 2005 brain, very surprised. Then again, that brain is actually shocked Fed has even been playing for the last seven years even considering his physically efficiënt point construction and relative lack of injuries.

However, current brain sees that times and fitness levels have changed and that stopping when you're 28 is not the norm anymore in modern times. And considering Nadal is a very special talent, all of a sudden this makes more sense.
Stopping at age 28 has never been the norm. Rosewall won a Slam aged 37, Laver won 4 Slams in a row being 31, Sampras won a Slam aged 31, Agassi won multiple Slams and was #1 when he was aged 32-33... there are many examples of ATG from the past winning Slams being over 30, and you are claiming players would "stop" (retire?, stop being competitive?) even earlier at age 28.
 

Mike Sams

Legend
Wouldn't surprise me if the big 3 are doping. As one poster on here mentioned the Carl Lewis example where the testing agencies covered up his positive tests, it would be devastating for the sport if any of the big 3 were outed as cheaters. Tennis is as much of a business as it is a sport. The ITF, same way. The organizers put Sharapova on the main court at the US Open while putting higher ranked players elsewhere because Sharapova could draw a bigger crowd despite the fact that she was coming off the meldonium suspension. The big 3 always get the main courts and often put in the prime-time slots because they draw the biggest crowds.
 

Mike Sams

Legend
U.S Open?
Has Nadal won any major back to back besides the F.O.?
No. Which is why it's intriguing. But I don't think he's got much of a shot at defending his US Open title. Even Djokovic hasn't been able to. I think Nadal probably gets stressed out when he's got a lot of points to defend. He barely follows a great season with another spectacular season. I can't see him finishing YE#1 in 2020.
 

MeatTornado

Legend
Stopping at age 28 has never been the norm. Rosewall won a Slam aged 37, Laver won 4 Slams in a row being 31, Sampras won a Slam aged 31, Agassi won multiple Slams and was #1 when he was aged 32-33... there are many examples of ATG from the past winning Slams being over 30, and you are claiming players would "stop" (retire?, stop being competitive?) even earlier at age 28.
Outliers don't refute norms.
 

ACE of Hearts

Talk Tennis Guru
A lot of people thought he would burned out including me because of his physical style of game. He’s 33 right now. If he can win four more slams that are not the french open what will federer fans say? Roger has left slams on the table time and time again.
 

MichaelNadal

Bionic Poster
A lot of people thought he would burned out including me because of his physical style of game. He’s 33 right now. If he can win four more slams that are not the french open what will federer fans say? Roger has left slams on the table time and time again.
He doesn't need to do anything close to that, especially after securing his fifth YE#1. One more FO and any other slam and it's a wrap.
 
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