Hybrid of MSV Bussard (M)/MSV Swift (C)

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elginspur

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Hey all. I am currently using Volkl Cyclone Tour 16 (strung at 52lbs) on my 2022 Head Speed MP. The VCT is a great soft poly (especially for a player with recovering TE) but, as everyone is aware, it loses tension quickly. I am keen to try the new MSV strings - Bussard and Swift - in a hybrid. The reason for this is that MSV Swift tend to also lose tension quickly (being a soft string) and I am thinking that perhaps the stiffer Bussard may just help to alleviate the quick tension loss whilst providing some level of control and precision . Please may I know whether anyone has tried a hybrid of these 2 strings? I am also open to other alternatives.

I am a 4.0 player and play an attacking baseliner game. Since I usually take big cuts at the ball, control and comfort are priority aspects for me. Thank you.
 
I have reals of msv hex soft, swift, +38, and bussard.
I use bussard ad my cross for almost EVERYTHING NOW....
Swift is slick n soft n powerful ...
+38 feels like a shaped swift n same as cyclone tour....hex soft is like hyper g soft but 6 sided
 
I've used MSV Hex Soft and like it. It's softer than Focus Hex, has good power and holds tension well. The +25 and +38 variants are even softer but, I don't feel that they hold tension as well.
 
ngoster said:
I've used MSV Hex Soft and like it. It's softer than Focus Hex, has good power and holds tension well. The +25 and +38 variants are even softer but, I don't feel that they hold tension as well.
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I am interested to try the FH Soft but the TW stiffness rating of this string is 228 :oops:, way higher than the strings that are comfortable enough for my arm (VCT 16, Lynx 17, PTP 17). How do you find the FH Soft? Perhaps I can mitigate its stiffness by a softer cross like MSV Swift.
 
elginspur said:
I am interested to try the FH Soft but the TW stiffness rating of this string is 228 :oops:, way higher than the strings that are comfortable enough for my arm (VCT 16, Lynx 17, PTP 17). How do you find the FH Soft? Perhaps I can mitigate its stiffness by a softer cross like MSV Swift.
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FH Soft is becoming one of my favorite strings. It seems to do everything well. My go to setup is a hybrid with polys in the mains and syn gut (I've been using Gosen OG Micro 17.). This set up retains most of the poly's characteristics while softening it up a little with the Gosen. Additionally, I'm not a string breaker so FH Soft 17L (1.20) works great for me. It's less stiff than the FH Soft 17, has better tension maintenance and has more spin potential. The bonus is that it comes in yellow, which looks great!

Btw, where do you live? If you're in the states and willing to pay for shipping, I'd be more than happy to cut a set of FH Soft 17L and +25 17 for you to try.
 
ngoster said:
FH Soft is becoming one of my favorite strings. It seems to do everything well. My go to setup is a hybrid with polys in the mains and syn gut (I've been using Gosen OG Micro 17.). This set up retains most of the poly's characteristics while softening it up a little with the Gosen. Additionally, I'm not a string breaker so FH Soft 17L (1.20) works great for me. It's less stiff than the FH Soft 17, has better tension maintenance and has more spin potential. The bonus is that it comes in yellow, which looks great!

Btw, where do you live? If you're in the states and willing to pay for shipping, I'd be more than happy to cut a set of FH Soft 17L and +25 17 for you to try.
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That's great to hear man. What is your tension setup?
 
ngoster said:
FH Soft is becoming one of my favorite strings. It seems to do everything well. My go to setup is a hybrid with polys in the mains and syn gut (I've been using Gosen OG Micro 17.). This set up retains most of the poly's characteristics while softening it up a little with the Gosen. Additionally, I'm not a string breaker so FH Soft 17L (1.20) works great for me. It's less stiff than the FH Soft 17, has better tension maintenance and has more spin potential. The bonus is that it comes in yellow, which looks great!

Btw, where do you live? If you're in the states and willing to pay for shipping, I'd be more than happy to cut a set of FH Soft 17L and +25 17 for you to try.
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Thanks for your kind offer my man, but I am based in London. MSV strings are relatively cheap here (I can get two sets of strings for less than $10) and I will likely try your recommendations soon.
 
maksp said:
Great,last 15+ hours 1.25mm
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Sounds better than most poly setup :laughing: How do you find the spin potential for this hybrid setup? And do you find that you have control when you take a full swing at the ball i.e. does the ball land in court after the swing?
 
elginspur said:
I am interested to try the FH Soft but the TW stiffness rating of this string is 228 :oops:, way higher than the strings that are comfortable enough for my arm (VCT 16, Lynx 17, PTP 17). How do you find the FH Soft? Perhaps I can mitigate its stiffness by a softer cross like MSV Swift.
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FH soft is NOT soft compared to actual soft polys like VCT 16 and Lynx, PTP 17. Lynx and ptp are actual comfort polys. FH soft is softer than regular FH but still very stiff.
 
elginspur said:
Sounds better than most poly setup :laughing: How do you find the spin potential for this hybrid setup? And do you find that you have control when you take a full swing at the ball i.e. does the ball land in court after the swing?
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I have to aim 4 feet above the net to get depth....If I take a normal average speed speed swing and medium height,the ball goes into the net .. ultra cable and msv hex soft are only two strings I've had this problem...
 
Yes, based on what I have read so far, it seems that FHS is relatively stiff. I may just be safe and opt for mains of FH + 38 and cross of Swift.
 
elginspur said:
Yes, based on what I have read so far, it seems that FHS is relatively stiff. I may just be safe and opt for mains of FH + 38 and cross of Swift.
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+38 black was great for 3 matches then became rocket launcher with swift cross...then I went 52 pounds +38 and bussard cross at 50 pounds...not much stiffer but lasted 10+ hours till +38 snapped.. I'm heavy spin hitter
 
maksp said:
+38 black was great for 3 matches then became rocket launcher with swift cross...then I went 52 pounds +38 and bussard cross at 50 pounds...not much stiffer but lasted 10+ hours till +38 snapped.. I'm heavy spin hitter
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I play with a lot of spin too, hence tension maintenance and playing durability are important. The VCT 16 is great for the first 10 hours but does eventually become a rocket launcher once tension drops. How do you find the launch angle and control of the FH+38 (mains) / Bussard (cross)?
 
elginspur said:
I play with a lot of spin too, hence tension maintenance and playing durability are important. The VCT 16 is great for the first 10 hours but does eventually become a rocket launcher once tension drops. How do you find the launch angle and control of the FH+38 (mains) / Bussard (cross)?
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Just a little lower with bussard...same without bussard
 
elginspur said:
Hey all. I am currently using Volkl Cyclone Tour 16 (strung at 52lbs) on my 2022 Head Speed MP. The VCT is a great soft poly (especially for a player with recovering TE) but, as everyone is aware, it loses tension quickly. I am keen to try the new MSV strings - Bussard and Swift - in a hybrid. The reason for this is that MSV Swift tend to also lose tension quickly (being a soft string) and I am thinking that perhaps the stiffer Bussard may just help to alleviate the quick tension loss whilst providing some level of control and precision . Please may I know whether anyone has tried a hybrid of these 2 strings? I am also open to other alternatives.

I am a 4.0 player and play an attacking baseliner game. Since I usually take big cuts at the ball, control and comfort are priority aspects for me. Thank you.
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So have you tried Bussard(m)/Swift(c)?
 
maksp said:
Bussard for round string ,hex soft for shaped
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Did you ever try hex focus soft in mains and bussard in crosses? 1.25.

I really like full bed hex focus soft quite a lot but am curious about this hybrid. Ideally the tension loss of the two strings is similar.
 
Wolfessis said:
Did you ever try hex focus soft in mains and bussard in crosses? 1.25.

I really like full bed hex focus soft quite a lot but am curious about this hybrid. Ideally the tension loss of the two strings is similar.
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Just bought these two reels so I'll let you know in a couple weeks!
 
Wolfessis said:
Did you ever try hex focus soft in mains and bussard in crosses? 1.25.

I really like full bed hex focus soft quite a lot but am curious about this hybrid. Ideally the tension loss of the two strings is similar.
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Yes..full hex soft was great for 5 hours of heavy spin hitting..
Hex soft/ bussard wad little firmer n less power but lasted 10 hours with both having great spin
 
I'd try flipping that hybrid. Bussard makes for an all-time-great crisp, connected and slick cross (we're talking Wasabi-X, Hawk -level slickness), and Swift is grippier and more easy to displace and snap. So with Swift mains, Bussard crosses, I'd imagine you'd get better and longer-lasting snapback, easier pop and a bit better comfort. To increase control, just ratchet up the tension to however high you need. A win-win-win.
 
ulunxtns said:
I tried this hybrid in Ezone 98 and Extreme Pro, worked really well for both.

I like the feel of this hybrid, but a little less controlled than full bed hex soft.
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Really less control? As in you felt like the stringbed was more powerful? Or because of slightly less spin?

Also what tensions did you string at? Ty :)
 
Wolfessis said:
Really less control? As in you felt like the stringbed was more powerful? Or because of slightly less spin?

Also what tensions did you string at? Ty :)
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It's hard to describe, just based on my feel. I'm talking about directional control, depth control is about the same.

I strung at 46/44.
 
Has anyone tried Co-focus? TW rated 17L (1.18) at 186 stiffness and only 31% tension loss. Also quite high spin potential. I intend to use it for crosses
 
Trip said:
I'd try flipping that hybrid. Bussard makes for an all-time-great crisp, connected and slick cross (we're talking Wasabi-X, Hawk -level slickness), and Swift is grippier and more easy to displace and snap. So with Swift mains, Bussard crosses, I'd imagine you'd get better and longer-lasting snapback, easier pop and a bit better comfort. To increase control, just ratchet up the tension to however high you need. A win-win-win.
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Would you say Bussard is more crisp and connected than Wasabi X and Sync as a cross?
 
Bussard is an outstanding crisp, controlled, pretty firm cross. So I have found out, it's ever-so-slightly less initially slick and less permanently slick than Wasabi-X, but the feel? Wowzers is it vivid. Careful not to string Bussard too high, though, as it is deceptively firm. To it's credit, it does hold playability incredibly well from session to session. An excellent cross when firmness, slickness and crispness are all desired, especially considering the low cost.
 
Trip said:
Bussard is an outstanding crisp, controlled, pretty firm cross. So I have found out, it's ever-so-slightly less initially slick and less permanently slick than Wasabi-X, but the feel? Wowzers is it vivid. Careful not to string Bussard too high, though, as it is deceptively firm. To it's credit, it does hold playability incredibly well from session to session.
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Wow. Highly looking forward to getting mine. I prioritize feel over slickness so that isn't a big problem for me. How do you feel it compares to sync in the cross? Also wondering where ya'll buy this string from if you are in the US because it seems a bit harder to find...
 
Trip said:
Bussard is an outstanding crisp, controlled, pretty firm cross. So I have found out, it's ever-so-slightly less initially slick and less permanently slick than Wasabi-X, but the feel? Wowzers is it vivid. Careful not to string Bussard too high, though, as it is deceptively firm. To it's credit, it does hold playability incredibly well from session to session. An excellent cross when firmness, slickness and crispness are all desired, especially considering the low cost.
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Did you try Grey Fire? Sounds very similar. I've a set of Bussard lying around but haven't gotten to try it yet.
 
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