Hybrid Stringing: Natural Gut on the center mains only

eelhc

Hall of Fame
This is a follow up to the What are the latest Econo-Guts? thread in the Strings forum. There was enough interest in this hybrid method so I'm starting this thread in the appropriate forum

Many folks like to string Natural Gut mains in a hybrid, crossing with a number of different types of strings depending on the desired playing characteristic or cost savings. For example, the spin and crispness poly crosses adds to NG mains while crossing NG with a multi retains the comfort and playing characteristics at some cost savings.

NG does not come in a reel, but rather is sold at 40' full sets or 20' half sets (standalone or as a hybrid). For most frames/tensions, it is not possible to get 3 sets of mains from a 40' full set of NG. However, it is possible to to string the 12 center mains on most frames with a 1/3 set (40'/3 or 13'-4"/4.07m). The outside mains and crosses are then strung with another string. Since these are the mains in the primary hitting area of the frame, this results in a significant cost savings over a traditional Hybrid.

On a, 98 sqin frame, it is possible to string 1/3 set of NG on the 12 center mains with a 1/2 set of a soft co-poly on the outside 4 mains and 19 crosses @ 55#). The 1/2 set for the outside mains/crosses are a little tight but it can be done.

One has to carefully study the pattern and tie off grommets to come up with a hybrid pattern that will work, but it is possible on most frames with some adjustments without opening up grommet holes for new tie offs. For example, frames with the main tie off on the 6th grommet will require one to weave the 4th main, then 6th, then 5th and so the tie off can be made on the 6th grommet (Yonex loop).

It is possible at higher tensions to string 14 center mains with a 1/3 set of NG but that might require that a grommet be opened up for another tie off.

Obviously, this also works for other string types. For example, instead of a full bed of X1-biphase, a 1/3 set of biphase for the center mains and less expensive multi like Genesis Thunder Blast for the outer mains + crosses. Nice setup for under $10.

So this is a thread to discuss this hybrid method: frames, patterns, amount of string needed for a given tension, etc...

econo gut thread
http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/index.php?threads/what-are-the-latest-econo-guts.538049/

acknowledgement: unorthodox stringing
http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/index.php?threads/why-doesnt-a-string-company.495336/#post-8205395
 
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MathieuR

Professional
I did not try it myself, but I liked Ricardo's idea: re-using the gut-mains "reversed".
- use a full-half-set for all mains
- do NOT cut the tails (but weave these in the stringbed, so they don't hinder)
- when you see the mains are wearing, unknot the knots, and remove the gut
- cut the gut in the middle, and ty the two ends again, tying the "outsides" with a triple fishing-knot
- re-string the gut. The previous central mains are now the outside mains, and visa-versa

to make untying the knots more easy, stick a small piece of syn.gut in the knot when tying.
 
I think you could divide your set of gut into 3 equal pieces instead of 2. Then, you would have to string the outer 2 mains on each side with whatever you're stringing the crosses with. Shouldn't be a problem if you're using reels. You'll have to plan ahead to determine where you're going to start and tie off the strings. If you've been stringing a while, it should take very little effort to do. Good luck.
 

volusiano

Hall of Fame
I think you could divide your set of gut into 3 equal pieces instead of 2. Then, you would have to string the outer 2 mains on each side with whatever you're stringing the crosses with. Shouldn't be a problem if you're using reels. You'll have to plan ahead to determine where you're going to start and tie off the strings. If you've been stringing a while, it should take very little effort to do. Good luck.
Isn't this what the OP just said in his first post in this thread? Or am I missing something?
 

eelhc

Hall of Fame
I did not try it myself, but I liked Ricardo's idea: re-using the gut-mains "reversed".
- use a full-half-set for all mains
- do NOT cut the tails (but weave these in the stringbed, so they don't hinder)
- when you see the mains are wearing, unknot the knots, and remove the gut
- cut the gut in the middle, and ty the two ends again, tying the "outsides" with a triple fishing-knot
- re-string the gut. The previous central mains are now the outside mains, and visa-versa

to make untying the knots more easy, stick a small piece of syn.gut in the knot when tying.
I'm wary of re-using strings or re-stringing just the crosses. I won't do it unless it's one of my frames or it's for someone who is aware that there's a slightest chance of frame damage. In all truthfulness though, I think modern frames are more likely to break or sustain damage from repeated ground scrapes than deformation during such re-stringing.

Different approaches to save cows.

Isn't this what the OP just said in his first post in this thread? Or am I missing something?
Yep, the point of starting this thread.
 
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MathieuR

Professional
you should remove strings only when the frame is properly supported on the stringtable; where is the risk?
 

volusiano

Hall of Fame
you should remove strings only when the frame is properly supported on the stringtable; where is the risk?
I don't think he said it's a big risk or anything. He said "slightest chance of frame damage". Like maybe you forget to mount it on the stringing table first and proceed to cut out all the crosses first. :)
 
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