Hybrid Yonex Polytour pro 125 with Head Velocity MLT or full HVMLT

avisar

New User
Hi guys,
I need some advice from you. I played with Babolat PS 98 po7 with RPM blast 125. This combination destroyed my arm. Now i bought the third generation of PS 98 because they were supposed to be more arm friendly but i changed the string to Yonex Poly Tour Pro 125. This combination is more comfortable but my arm still hurts but it hurts much less. I want to try making a hybrid with the YPTP + HVMLT. I would like to ask, if anybody has tried this combination of strings. Which Head Velocity string is better? 16 or 17 g? Which one is better for Cross or Main? Or should I completely stop using the YPTP and just switch to the HVMLT. Which tension would you recommend to me? I usually use 24/25 full poly strings.
 

lucieisland

Semi-Pro
today, if I had to buy something to hybridize a gut (natural or synthetic) it would be:
1) kirschbaum evolution
2) dyreex whisper
3) cyber flash (or cyber blue) topspin
4) weiss cannon scorpion
5) kirschbaum max power (smooth round version)
6) signum plasma (pure or original)

for me, these 6 are in a pocket handkerchief. they all last beyond 12 hours of tensionstability, are fairly soft, fairly powerful and fairly controlled. and I think they are all
the most expensive must be the max power just above $ 100, the cyber blue or flash must be around $ 75, the scorpion around $ 80; dyreex whisper at around $ 65-70; and the evolution at $ 80_85 .. a plasma signum costs about $ 60-65 (I found it at $ 55).

for me, in hybrid, if I had to choose one, it would be the kirschbaum evolution. (I already play with), in direct competition with the dyreex whispeer. (very underestimated and unrecognized in my opinion).

the most economical option being the plasma signum (pure or original).
 

lucieisland

Semi-Pro
I forgot my absolute favorite: the genesis black magic. you really have to try it, it's really a superlative string, and like the dyreex whisper, underestimated and unknown. once you drop it, you come back often. when I test a new racket, I put a genesis black magic at 17kg, it is revealing for me, it allows to have a good impression of the tennis racket without being masked by anything.for 80$ it's magic!.
 

avisar

New User
today, if I had to buy something to hybridize a gut (natural or synthetic) it would be:
1) kirschbaum evolution
2) dyreex whisper
3) cyber flash (or cyber blue) topspin
4) weiss cannon scorpion
5) kirschbaum max power (smooth round version)
6) signum plasma (pure or original)

for me, these 6 are in a pocket handkerchief. they all last beyond 12 hours of tensionstability, are fairly soft, fairly powerful and fairly controlled. and I think they are all
the most expensive must be the max power just above $ 100, the cyber blue or flash must be around $ 75, the scorpion around $ 80; dyreex whisper at around $ 65-70; and the evolution at $ 80_85 .. a plasma signum costs about $ 60-65 (I found it at $ 55).

for me, in hybrid, if I had to choose one, it would be the kirschbaum evolution. (I already play with), in direct competition with the dyreex whispeer. (very underestimated and unrecognized in my opinion).

the most economical option being the plasma signum (pure or original).
i checked all string, in my country i can buy only signum plasma :D so sad, and from the others i like kirschbaum pro line evolution from reviews, shame everywhere its sold out in my country. I played with kirschabam pro line 2 lot of years. i like this company
 

lucieisland

Semi-Pro
So do you put the polys into crosses or into mains?

in a hybrid using multi or s-gut and poly, the strings most requested for wear and abrasion remain the main, and what wears the main, are the cross. (knife effect), so, in my opinion, and by dint of tests, I concluded that, whether in natural or synthetic gut, the best compromise was: the multi or s-gut in main, and use a poly sliding cross. (the best options if we look at just the slippery for me in any case remains: poly tour fire and tough from yonex, and red code wax tecnifibre, but except for the latter, the first two remain hard enough for poly. and for a sensitive arm it is better to use the poly soft mentioned above.

I noticed that when using poly in main, it was more of a harsh feeling than poly in cross. and as I use poly just to energize the whole thing a little bit, for me, hybrid with poly on cross is better.
 

MikhailT

New User
I noticed that when using poly in main, it was more of a harsh feeling than poly in cross. and as I use poly just to energize the whole thing a little bit, for me, hybrid with poly on cross is better.
Thanks! Is there any other profit except energizing? Specifically, is the durability of such a hybrid setup lower than full bed of syn-gut? As you say, the polys will cut through softer syngut eventually, but if mains and crosses are both syngut, the wear will be more evenly spread, right?
 

lucieisland

Semi-Pro
Thanks! Is there any other profit except energizing? Specifically, is the durability of such a hybrid setup lower than full bed of syn-gut? As you say, the polys will cut through softer syngut eventually, but if mains and crosses are both syngut, the wear will be more evenly spread, right?

in fact, I use for example for 25kg for Mounts I put 20 for the poly crosses. moreover, I use a poly which is not only round, but also completely smooth. (the dyreex is a poly vinyl I believe, the evolution is quite slippery, the yonex poly tour fire and the touch (I prefer the second, much read affordable, half cheaper than the fire), and also slippery for my part.

Finally, the return of the strings to their initial state for the amounts (the snapback) is much more important than in an FB s'gut. the s-gut like many multi are slightly structured, an often rough surface. it is not uncommon to see a hybrid sgut poly last more than 8h, when an fb s-gut struggles to last 45mn see 1h15 maximum.
anyway, given the low price, I cut it after about 3:30 on average.

for exemple: babolat addixion is Under 2h30, with poly cross over 8h, same with origin on main, full bed origin is 3 or 4 hours. whith a round poly, over 8-9h..

multifeel full bed if it's going to over 4h it's very great, but never goes over 3h.. with poly cross, it's can going over 8-9h.
mantis synthetic comfort, plus and power are same thing. on full bed difficuel to play over 4h, with poly cross, its goint over 10h..
 

lucieisland

Semi-Pro
So do you put the polys into crosses or into mains?
like federer and other players, natural gut on main, poly on cross...
i never play hybrid setup, but what i read, i think yptp to main and velocity to cross
at the beginning, i believed like everyone that gut would die faster in the main, and i put it in the crosses.
then, a cheek I tried poly in main, and finally, I would never go back to poly main.

in fact, these are the advantages of poly control, with gut's smoothness and power. with poly durability.

I did not think that s-gut or multi held so long. It is true that if we use a structured or formed poly, with angles, the gut risks dying very quickly, but poly round, and slippery adds a lot of durability to the whole!
 

avisar

New User
you know man ,at the begining on forum i wanted hybrid, now i dont want :D i think i will stay with full yptp or i will trie full velocity
 

avisar

New User
ok, gyus btw, its somebody here who tried full yptp 1.25 and velocity 1.3 ? Im still thinking about swich to velocity.
 

t_pac

Rookie
I've used Velocity as full bed and in a hybrid with poly. I generally use Tier One Ghostwire which is another very comfortable poly and will probably be in the same ball park as YPTP (I actually have a set of YPTP to try in my next hybrid).

V / poly plays well, not as good as nat gut / poly obviously, but playability is decent. Comfort is good (I string this combo for a friend who has arm issues). Main downside is durability - it won't take long for the mains to go. For this reason I'd only use 16g Velocity. I also plan to give Gosen OG Sheep a go as a main and see if the durability improves without losing too much playability.

Full bed Velocity is more comfortable and will last longer but playability is not nearly as good.

Other option is to try low tension YPTP full bed (30-40lb range).
 
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avisar

New User
I've used Velocity as full bed and in a hybrid with poly. I generally use Tier One Ghostwire which is another very comfortable poly and will probably be in the same ball park as YPTP (I actually have a set of YPTP to try in my next hybrid).

V / poly plays well, not as good as nat gut / poly obviously, but playability is decent. Comfort is good (I string this combo for a friend who has arm issues). Main downside is durability - it won't take long for the mains to go. For this reason I'd only use 16g Velocity. I also plan to give Gosen OG Sheep a go as a main and see if the durability improves without losing too much playability.

Full bed Velocity is more comfortable and will last longer but playability is not nearly as good.

Other option is to try low tension YPTP full bed (30-40lb range).
Now im using full yptp on 24-25kgs ,so its 52lb, but with lower tension its too much power and lots of overhitting. In your opinion what is better, put velocity cross or main, with yptp . Or maybe when you will try this hybrid you can commend here :)
 

t_pac

Rookie
I would never personally go poly / multi (although some people seem to get on with it) - way less comfortable and the poly mains won't slide / snap back so well on multi crosses.
 

warney

Rookie
what is better, put velocity cross or main, with yptp
Velocity main with YPTP cross is better. I have tried multiple Velocity main poly cross hybrids (except for YPTP). I currently use Velocity/Cream hybrid.
I have tried YPTP cross with Gut and Origin and in both instances spin, control is very good. Velocity main should give you similar results.
I have used Velocity MLT hybrid in stiff racquets (APD plus, PD plus, PD Tour Plus) and have not had any issue with arm pain while full poly in these racquets will give me arm pain right after 2nd hit in a week.

I will recommend to try Velocity 1.30 first and if you get 10+ hours of playability try 1.25 Velocity. 1.25 gets more spin but has less durability.
 

avisar

New User
I read lot of forums that velocity ist better in 1.30 then 1.25. So i will order 1.30 reel. yptp 1.25 is actually really thicker string, so it will be fine. Ok so i will stay with my pure strike 98(i want blade98,62stiffnes rating but im worried about wilson QC, so i ll keed my PS), and i will put velocity to main and yptp to cross. Advice for tension?
 

NoQuarter

Rookie
If you want to try a soft bed and still use Poly give Volkl Cyclone Tour and Velocity a try. Both at 1.30. I string it with VCT mains at 54 and Velocity cross at 56. Velocity has the coating that allows the VCT to slide across it for some time before the coating wears off. I've had plenty of arm issues but this setup allows me to keep using poly. I'm also using a Volkl Organix 10 325 which helps a lot also...I think.
 
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