Hydrogen Sports PROTON

pasta

Semi-Pro
Went through my first case of balls very fast. Ordered (and hopefully will be receiving soon) a case of Trinity Club but in the meantime bought another case of cheap Penn Championship balls.

Does anybody have experience to share re. use of Trinity vs. regular "pressurized" balls (longevity, comfort) ?
 

happyandbob

Hall of Fame
Does anybody have experience to share re. use of Trinity vs. regular "pressurized" balls (longevity, comfort) ?
They are hard as rocks at first but soften up quickly. Mine are at least 3 months old and going strong. They get used 4-5 times a month for like 10-15 hoppers a hitting session.
 

JEDI MASTER

Semi-Pro
Went through my first case of balls very fast. Ordered (and hopefully will be receiving soon) a case of Trinity Club but in the meantime bought another case of cheap Penn Championship balls.

Does anybody have experience to share re. use of Trinity vs. regular "pressurized" balls (longevity, comfort) ?
my first case of cheap costco Penn Balls lasted me 20K hits on the Proton...
 

celito

Professional
Went through my first case of balls very fast. Ordered (and hopefully will be receiving soon) a case of Trinity Club but in the meantime bought another case of cheap Penn Championship balls.

Does anybody have experience to share re. use of Trinity vs. regular "pressurized" balls (longevity, comfort) ?
Trinity balls feel heavier but they hold their bounce very well. I bought 80 balls last December and am still using them. I typically use a ball machine once every 10 days and hit around 3-4 rounds each time.
 

Nostradamus

Bionic Poster
Trinity balls feel heavier but they hold their bounce very well. I bought 80 balls last December and am still using them. I typically use a ball machine once every 10 days and hit around 3-4 rounds each time.
i use the Penn Marathon balls. those last longer and is fairly acceptable to me. they aren't US open balls but this machine destroys the ball so fast....
 

pasta

Semi-Pro
i use the Penn Marathon balls. those last longer and is fairly acceptable to me. they aren't US open balls but this machine destroys the ball so fast....
This seem to second my opinion ...

This machine destroys the balls fast !

i bought case of Penn Championship , case of Dunlop ATP and a case of TrinityClub ...

we'll see how it works out ...

be aware of machine
 

pasta

Semi-Pro
But to be honest ...

I am used to play with nice, shinny, bouncy, fluffy balls ...

dead ball !? No way, that thing is going in the ocean (and then Adidas gets it and makes Parley ... can't I just bring it to Adidas store !?

hydrogen has room to grow
 

FrankyRelax

New User
Went out today with my proton for the first time. Had an issue where when using the quick start medium and hard modes it would feed like 5 balls and the stop. Frustrating. I've reached out to Jonah and hope he's got a fix
 

JEDI MASTER

Semi-Pro
Went out today with my proton for the first time. Had an issue where when using the quick start medium and hard modes it would feed like 5 balls and the stop. Frustrating. I've reached out to Jonah and hope he's got a fix
after every daily use.. make sure you clean inside of the ball hole intake.. there's a ball sensor on the side...
when it's dirty.. it's sensing there is a ball inside
 
after every daily use.. make sure you clean inside of the ball hole intake.. there's a ball sensor on the side...
when it's dirty.. it's sensing there is a ball inside
Good advice. Thanks. Maybe we should all compile a best practices list to maintain and upkeep our Protons… these things are so precious with only a 1 year warranty.

Would love to know all the things I need to do to take care of this thing, which is my favorite piece of gear
 

N54TT

New User
dunlop balls got torn up after just 2-3 hours and no good. have to buy box of new balls after 2 hours.
I thought you were getting 4 weeks out of them?

 

Nostradamus

Bionic Poster
I thought you were getting 4 weeks out of them?

i need that fresh feel. after 2 hours, dunlop balls feel dead so i have to get a new box everytime i play. i think its combination of the machine and my big hitting
 

USMC-615

Semi-Pro
Well...haven't read in here in a little while but seems like most folks machines are spot on while a few others have a few hardware/possible sensor issues to sort out.

Now, here's my issue after some diligent reading...the little round things. Fellas, if I have to buy pressure-less balls by the 18-wheeler load no more time than most seem to be getting out of 'em, hell I might as well just buy another bass boat, stencil Proton down the side of it, and walk away cheaper. The last thing I ever had planned with a second mortgage, or burning some equity therein, was to buy tennis balls so I can play tennis with a machine. :laughing: :laughing:
 

happyandbob

Hall of Fame
The last thing I ever had planned with a second mortgage, or burning some equity therein, was to buy tennis balls so I can play tennis with a machine. :laughing: :laughing:
You can get a 72 box of loose Triniti balls on TW for surprisingly little. They last forever and are pressurized, but apparently use thicker and different rubber than normal balls so they hold pressure for a long time. They feel closer to regular tennis balls than any of the pressureless ones I've tried, and the felt is woven so that also has been very durable so far.
 
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pasta

Semi-Pro
Now, that's called exaggerating ...

If one can afford to spend $1700 on ball machine, i do not believe that spending another $300 for a yearly supply of balls is a "second mortgage" event !

Playing tennis is not cheap ... racquets, balls, shoes, court fees, lessons ...

Case of Trinity Club is $109 (tax and shipping included), case of Penn Championship is $50 (tax included) at local sporting goods store with 20% off coupon, and Dunlop ATP case is $85 (tax and shipping included).

That is under $250 - hardly any tought of mortgage ...
 
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USMC-615

Semi-Pro
Now, that's called exaggerating ...

If one can afford to spend $1700 on ball machine, i do not believe that spending another $300 for a yearly supply of balls is a "second mortgage" event !

Playing tennis is not cheap ... racquets, balls, shoes, court fees, lessons ...

Case of Trinity Club is $109 (tax and shipping included), case of Penn Championship is $50 (tax included) at local sporting goods store with 20% off coupon, and Dunlop ATP case is $85 (tax and shipping included).

That is under $250 - hardly any tought of mortgage ...
Well Pasta, I certainly appreciate your thorough explanation in this matter...what would I have done without your expert expense-figuring here probably remains the better question. BTW, you did notice those two little smiley-faced/laughing thingy's at the end of my post...didn't ya??
 

happyandbob

Hall of Fame
Well Pasta, I certainly appreciate your thorough explanation in this matter...what would I have done without your expert expense-figuring here probably remains the better question. BTW, you did notice those two little smiley-faced/laughing thingy's at the end of my post...didn't ya??
Not sure where pasta is from, but gotta be careful on the interwebs using sarcasm or irony. Those two concepts don't exist in many cultures so even with a smiley or a wink, sarcasm has definitely gotten me in trouble in the past...

but whatever. screw those foreigners and their lack of understanding of sarcasm. ;)
 

JEDI MASTER

Semi-Pro
this little blower is great to carry in your car... clean off your machine.. inside and out...
minimize any ball fuzz getting inside your car.

 

USMC-615

Semi-Pro
this little blower is great to carry in your car... clean off your machine.. inside and out...
minimize any ball fuzz getting inside your car.

Smart...can utilize a spare Ryobi One+ battery for the machine. Well done!
 

pasta

Semi-Pro
One case of Penn Championship balls (72 balls) lasts about 2000 hits ... around that point you feel that balls are getting dead and your wrist will feel the same ...

Assuming mid to high range of machine capabilities are being utilized ( Speed/Interval/RPM ... )

That is about 4-7 hrs.

Throughout the ball felt decent, as expected of Penn Championship ball ... not great !

2-5 misfires in a hopper did not bother me much ...

Players 3.5 and below might get 8-10hrs.

Moving on to Dunlop ATP ...

Machine (Proton) is still going strong ... fuzz, drift, firmware, whatnot ... doing its job !!!

Again, what is "bass boat" ? Is it American slang for "Proton" ?
 
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myke232

Semi-Pro
Throughout the ball felt decent, as expected of Penn Championship ball ... not great !
You mean the Penn Heavy Duty balls? I love those. Why not great? I don't mean with a ball machine I mean just for playing with. Great feel and spin I get with them...
 

USMC-615

Semi-Pro
For those possibly looking for spare batteries...HD has a 2-pack of Ryobi One+18V Li-Ion 4.0Ah batteries right now for $79 (charger not included). I guess this latest sale will prob last through the upcoming weekend.
 

2nd-srv-ace

New User
Now, that's called exaggerating ...

If one can afford to spend $1700 on ball machine, i do not believe that spending another $300 for a yearly supply of balls is a "second mortgage" event !

Playing tennis is not cheap ... racquets, balls, shoes, court fees, lessons ...

Case of Trinity Club is $109 (tax and shipping included), case of Penn Championship is $50 (tax included) at local sporting goods store with 20% off coupon, and Dunlop ATP case is $85 (tax and shipping included).

That is under $250 - hardly any tought of mortgage ...
??? I must be the only one who buys racquets every 10 years (unless they break), buys Costco balls, shoes as needed, plays on public courts (no fees) and does not take lessons...so Tennis has been very affordable to me...ah! and I re-string my own racquets too!! I am the 'Happy Gilmore' of Tennis
 

pasta

Semi-Pro
??? I must be the only one who buys racquets every 10 years (unless they break), buys Costco balls, shoes as needed, plays on public courts (no fees) and does not take lessons...so Tennis has been very affordable to me...ah! and I re-string my own racquets too!! I am the 'Happy Gilmore' of Tennis
No, you are not the only one doing that .

It is widely accepted that playing tennis is one of the more "expensive" sport activities, i wish it is the oposite.

Our public courts are covered in snow/ice for 4-5 months and indoor clubs have strong demand and charge premium price in the winter months.

After going fairly quickly through the first case of balls it seems that yearly ball supply will exceed $300 :(

I started looking at "bass boats" ;)
 

NotBjornBorg

New User
Noob here--bought the Proton last month--got in on the small production overrun.:cool:
I can give as many details as anyone would like (the input here, well, most of it, made all the difference in my purchase decision).
It's a great machine and I would buy it again. I am just picking up tennis after being a lifelong serious golfer with much less free time on my hands these days. I'm relatively athletic so hope to be much better soon but for now I'm a noob. We also have some plentiful, underused decent tennis courts around here (NE Oklahoma).
So given that, this machine fits the bill. It kicks my butt and is really enjoyable to use. The built in programs, plus my own, are super easy to use and make it extremely flexible. The portability is advantageous--it fits nicely in the back floorboard of my sedan, and carrying it to the court (albeit not far at all) is very easy--backpack, balls/baskets in one hand, proton in the other.

Yes, it has the foibles all have pointed out--ball cave, drift, some intermittent pairing dropping (but never during a program). I remedied the ball cave with the longer 100mm bolt somebody suggested, and by keeping the back small triangle flap on the inside edge of the hopper (I use a small piece of duct tape). Depending on the program, drift is sometimes, and sometimes not, a problem--easily remedied when i fill the hopper back up. Phone/proton connection occasionally drops after a program finishes and i have to re-pair it. Doesn't happen all the time and easy to reconnect each time.

So, after 4,300 balls through it--I really like it. I'm not usually an early adopter but am happy with it so far. I'm sure a Gen2 version would fix most of the issues but none of them are slowing me down. i hope it holds up over time is all--but at this point I'm very happy with it. My alternative was the spinfire but given my skill level and goals, I just couldn't justify the extra $800 for it even though it looks like a really cool option. $1600 is bad enough (being new to tennis i was shocked when i started pricing ball machines). The programmability is awesome on this thing!
 

bobleenov1963

Hall of Fame
Noob here--bought the Proton last month--got in on the small production overrun.:cool:
I can give as many details as anyone would like (the input here, well, most of it, made all the difference in my purchase decision).
It's a great machine and I would buy it again. I am just picking up tennis after being a lifelong serious golfer with much less free time on my hands these days. I'm relatively athletic so hope to be much better soon but for now I'm a noob. We also have some plentiful, underused decent tennis courts around here (NE Oklahoma).
So given that, this machine fits the bill. It kicks my butt and is really enjoyable to use. The built in programs, plus my own, are super easy to use and make it extremely flexible. The portability is advantageous--it fits nicely in the back floorboard of my sedan, and carrying it to the court (albeit not far at all) is very easy--backpack, balls/baskets in one hand, proton in the other.

Yes, it has the foibles all have pointed out--ball cave, drift, some intermittent pairing dropping (but never during a program). I remedied the ball cave with the longer 100mm bolt somebody suggested, and by keeping the back small triangle flap on the inside edge of the hopper (I use a small piece of duct tape). Depending on the program, drift is sometimes, and sometimes not, a problem--easily remedied when i fill the hopper back up. Phone/proton connection occasionally drops after a program finishes and i have to re-pair it. Doesn't happen all the time and easy to reconnect each time.

So, after 4,300 balls through it--I really like it. I'm not usually an early adopter but am happy with it so far. I'm sure a Gen2 version would fix most of the issues but none of them are slowing me down. i hope it holds up over time is all--but at this point I'm very happy with it. My alternative was the spinfire but given my skill level and goals, I just couldn't justify the extra $800 for it even though it looks like a really cool option. $1600 is bad enough (being new to tennis i was shocked when i started pricing ball machines). The programmability is awesome on this thing!
@NotBjornBorg: As a lifelong serious golfer, you shouldn't be complaining about the cost of a tennis ball machine. You can easily pay $1400 for a Taylormade Irons set, $700 for a Taylormade Sim2 driver, $400 for a putter, not including Wedges... Last but not least, Titleist Pro-V1 or V1x goes about $4 per golf ball and I am sure you lose at least three or four golf balls during an 18 holes round of golf.

Tennis is not cheap but certainly cheaper than golf, LOL..
 

NotBjornBorg

New User
All true, it’s all relative.
btw I use penn pressureless, gamma and some Walmart no name pressureless in the proton. Penn is by far best out of those 3 IMO
 
yes. You can adjust height by changing the speed and spin
yep so you can only change height indirectly not directly. You can also only do it in combinations of 500 rpm, +/- 1 km increments. One of the limitations of Proton you have to do a lot of playing around.

So let’s say I wanted to get a ball exactly shoulder height for me. I’d have to mess around with different rpm/kmh combos to find the right setting
 

happyandbob

Hall of Fame
So let’s say I wanted to get a ball exactly shoulder height for me. I’d have to mess around with different rpm/kmh combos to find the right setting
yes. Personally, I haven't found I needed to tweak more than 1 or 2 tries to find the right combo, but for something really specific, I can see how it might take a few more tries.
 
Hi,

I'd like to hear about what people think of using the proton for junior players(10U)? Looks like the lower speed limit bottoms at 60km/h? TIA
 

initialize

Semi-Pro
Hey guys, I have a brand new-in-box proton that I’m selling, PM if interested. I already have a SpinFire and realized I need to be saving money instead lol
 

swupnil

Rookie
Hi,

I'd like to hear about what people think of using the proton for junior players(10U)? Looks like the lower speed limit bottoms at 60km/h? TIA
I can't speak to juniors but my fiancé is just learning how to play (she's hit like 5 times so far) and found it very nice to practice with from the short court (the pre-built easy warmup is perfect for her). Thinking back to my junior days, the Proton should be perfect!
 
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