[Hypothetical match] Would you beat Federer in a best-of-3 match if...

How many points Fed can afford to lose in order to have an even match Fed-You?

  • 1

    Votes: 4 23.5%
  • 2

    Votes: 2 11.8%
  • 3

    Votes: 2 11.8%
  • 4

    Votes: 2 11.8%
  • 5

    Votes: 1 5.9%
  • 6+

    Votes: 6 35.3%

  • Total voters
    17
#51
I still think in two full sets I ha e a good chance of getting one point on a momentary lack of focus/interest, or some shank/net cord winner, and ace or such.


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Depends how you play, if you can serve fairly big and have good swing mechanics and technique, ud probably have a chance to win a few points but your strategy should be redlining and crushing the ball.

He would destroy your normal balls and serves, and then you would be relying on pure luck or some odd misshit.

Your best bet is to redline and hit very hard, your consistency would drop but that wouldnt matter, the balls that would go in could at least trouble him if struck and aimed extremely well.

Imagine hitting ur serve at 80-90%, very consistent and placed well, ud get 70-80% in, but he would absolutely hammer those easy balls for him and kill you with his returns.

Now imagine hitting 90-100% and even aiming very close to the sidelines and very aggressive targets, u might hit only 4-5 good serves in a set like this, but they are fast and aimed at aggressive spots and if struck really well could win you the point by an ace or UE
 
#53
There was a thread long time ago, where a 4.0 or 4.5 played a Davis cup player from Thailand, I believe. He got 3 points if I remember correctly. One was an error and 2 were on serve aces.
Unless you have a really good serve (we are talking above 110, with placement), against Federer, it would be no points for you and even then, less than 5 is assured. He would adopt a very high margin play on strokes and returns and hit 2 second serves to your bh.
 
#54
i love these scenarios...I don't doubt a 4.5 could win a few points here and there from Federer...Fed makes errors.....It's hard to be perfect on every point ..
guys like Nadal, Djkovic Murray could pull it off for a set as they are much more calculated and consistent than Roger
huh? if Nadal, Djoko and Murray are "much more calculated and consistent than Roger"; how come Roger has 20 slams and they don't? Honestly, this makes no sense.

Federer elects to play these guys in an aggressive manner that includes some risk so he makes errors but he can also hit more winners.

I assure you if Federer was playing some 4.5 hack, he could play for hours without making a mistake. Federer once played 105 points against Isner at the USOpen without a single unforced error. Federer has the best hand eye and coordination of all the big 4.
 
#55
There was a thread long time ago, where a 4.0 or 4.5 played a Davis cup player from Thailand, I believe. He got 3 points if I remember correctly. One was an error and 2 were on serve aces.
Unless you have a really good serve (we are talking above 110, with placement), against Federer, it would be no points for you and even then, less than 5 is assured. He would adopt a very high margin play on strokes and returns and hit 2 second serves to your bh.
Thats exactly what I was thinking.

Federer hitting groundstrokes at 70-80% swing speed would produce a heavier ball than most rec players ever faced and he would be hitting spots accurately and not missing.
You would be making tons of errors or he would come to net and finish easy points.

And also agree for 2nd serve, I think people here cant even phantom how much kick it has, you would have huge problems getting it in play with ur fh, let alone backhand lol.

Its just a whole different dimension.

A good WTA player would hardly win any points against Federer, lets be serious.
 
#56
I don't think tennis is like say hoops. There is a non-zero chance they could screw up a pair of serves or botch a return. Have no idea how consistent a pro is when facing amateur balls. Very consistent sure..but likely not zero.
Facing someone like Lebron OTOH in one on one hoops would be just impossible. So this would be a fun challenge.,
 
#57
I still think in two full sets I ha e a good chance of getting one point on a momentary lack of focus/interest, or some shank/net cord winner, and ace or such.


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I think winning a single pt against Nadal or Djoker is impossible but Federer will just shank a few
 
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