I am with FAA on the MTO rule change. Who's with us?

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The Fokina medical time out has caused Felix's unsual criticism. I can't forget the one Sinner got in RG and so I am feeling our sport is being abused too much.

  • Rule Criticism: Felix called the current rule allowing medical breaks mid-opponent’s service game a disgrace, suggesting it should be changed to prevent players from gaining unfair advantage.
 
ADF looks silly faking ankle injury
He obviously did it to ice FAA and it worked
ADF played within the rules
FAA didn’t like it but really time outs happen in all sports
It’s just part of the strategy.
I think that MTO should be granted upon request
to avoid all this fakery
Tennis becoming what soccer/football is to bad acting
 
TennisBro said:
The Fokina medical time out has caused Felix's unsual criticism. I can't forget the one Sinner got in RG and so I am feeling our sport is being abused too much.

  • Rule Criticism: Felix called the current rule allowing medical breaks mid-opponent’s service game a disgrace, suggesting it should be changed to prevent players from gaining unfair advantage.
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If a player wants to take an MTO during or immediately prior to their opponent's serve, they should forfeit that game, and resume play on their own serve.
 
Sudacafan said:
FAA is the good guy who always gets mugged.
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Nice guys finish last. ADF definitely looked like he was embellishing but you could see on one of the replays the first time where the ankle kind of rolled. The 2nd time late in the 4th set it was more suspicious as after the point he was walking fine until he got to his towel and then went down all of a sudden. Maybe it worked, but at the same time, Felix as a player needs to be stronger than that as he had several match points up a break in the 4th set and then a disastrous service game when trying to serve out the match. He choked all by himself here. This is why I feel FAA has no chance against Novak. You will never beat ATG's or top seeds ranked ahead of you when you can't close out like that.
 
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It's happening in all sports these days, the "enforced" decisions of the past are ignored in favour of keeping the play going or making more money for the sport.

IMO the rule in tennis should be simple, If you're injured during an opponents service game and require treatment, you get it but you forfeit the game, not the point, the entire game. That way if the injury is serious, you can get it looked at and treated but it can no longer be used as a tactic because you either accept you're not truely injured or your opponent is compensated.
 
Better_Call_Raul said:
Don't think Djoker ever took an MTO down Match Point while the opponent was serving.
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Who can forget your fav Egg calling out the trainer when down 5-2 in the fifth set with Sir Andrew Murray to serve in the 2012 USO finals.

Kindly do not underrate the master of MTOs! From the time Egg burst on to the ATP tour to thrill the fans he was innovating the strategic use of MTOs. Check the conversation around @2:45 where the gentle PT asks Egg if he has already had a time out and Egg chuckles at how many times.

 
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RSJfan said:
Who can forget your fav Egg calling out the trainer when down 5-2 in the fifth set with Sir Andrew Murray to serve in the 2012 USO finals.

Kindly do not underrate the master of MTOs! From the time Egg burst on to the ATP tour to thrill the fans he was innovating the strategic use of MTOs. Check the conversation around @2:45 where the gentle PT asks Egg or he has already had a time out and Egg chuckles at how many times.


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Your net browser, your AI service provider, or your memory is second to none.
 
Sudacafan said:
Your net browser, your AI service provider, or your memory is second to none.
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Much obliged.

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Tsistsipas brilliantly employed the strategic 9 minute toilet breaks at the 2021 US Open.
It prompted officials to come down severely on these practices.

Toilet breaks and Medical Time Outs are now meticulously timed at Wimbledon.

Look for Djoker to masterfully use his allotted MTO's and Toilet Breaks against Mr Felix.
:unsure:

Analysis by the Wall Street Journal revealed Djokovic won a staggering 78.6% of the sets he played immediately after returning from a toilet break.


 
Better_Call_Raul said:
Tsistsipas brilliantly employed the strategic 9 minute toilet breaks at the 2021 US Open.
It prompted officials to come down severely on these practices.

Toilet breaks and Medical Time Outs are now meticulously timed at Wimbledon.

Look for Djoker to masterfully use his allotted MTO's and Toilet Breaks against Mr Felix.
:unsure:

Analysis by the Wall Street Journal revealed Djokovic won a staggering 78.6% of the sets he played immediately after returning from a toilet break.
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A quick jump in his egg disguised as a toilet break is next level.
 
There is a code of honour. One does not take a medical timeout during the opponents serve.

OTOH, one can't control when injuries occur.

It is a matter of ethics:
Do we really wish to risk players dying on the court for fear of taking a MTO?

Your favourite Felix should understand that all too well.
:(

An injured Felix Auger-Aliassime received a time violation which immediately got tennis fans talking - was it fair, or not?
 
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RSJfan said:
Amen! I will have this exact wording printed on a tee shirt and wear it the next time I attend a pro tennis match.
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Fantastic idea! I will get that t-shirt to wear for my next pedorro doubles match. I will try to hit opponents at the net.
 
So under Felix's plan, what does 2006 French Open Nadal do when he has a piece of banana lodged in his throat?
 
Better_Call_Raul said:
Tsistsipas brilliantly employed the strategic 9 minute toilet breaks at the 2021 US Open.
It prompted officials to come down severely on these practices.

Toilet breaks and Medical Time Outs are now meticulously timed at Wimbledon.

Look for Djoker to masterfully use his allotted MTO's and Toilet Breaks against Mr Felix.
:unsure:

Analysis by the Wall Street Journal revealed Djokovic won a staggering 78.6% of the sets he played immediately after returning from a toilet break.
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...as compared to what percent otherwise? I don't know the answer, but this is an incomplete stat.
 
Better_Call_Raul said:
There is a code of honour. One does not take a medical timeout during the opponents serve.

OTOH, one can't control when injuries occur.

It is a matter of ethics:
Do we really wish to risk players dying on the court for fear of taking a MTO?

Your favourite Felix should understand that all too well.
:(

An injured Felix Auger-Aliassime received a time violation which immediately got tennis fans talking - was it fair, or not?
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Interesting that this has been brought up here now; FAA received a warning when serving against Fokina a couple days ago. He was a bit slow to serve but not that slow at all. I guess he had already complained which triggered the umpire's frustration.
 
Mustard said:
So under Felix's plan, what does 2006 French Open Nadal do when he has a piece of banana lodged in his throat?
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Injured players should never be afraid to take a medical time-out; it puts players' lives at risk.
The rule cannot be changed because ADF chose to abuse the rule.

Felix does not have any superpowers to glean what medical events his opponent is experiencing.

We could not care less if an opponent takes a MTO while we are holding match point.

We use the opponent's MTO as an opportunity to reset and turn our opponent's MTO into an advantage.
That is how we roll.
It is as simple as that.

How does an NFL kicker deal with opposing team calling a timeout just as he attempts to kick, in order to "ice" the kicker?
The great kickers take care of business. The lesser kickers are rattled by the timeout and choke.

Felix the Beta Male kindly needs to stop whining.
 
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Ok but it will be a little dicey when it comes time for a player to sprain and ankle and be forced to move on it for a few more points before being checked out.

Though I suppose said person would not finish the match anyway.

I think edge cases maybe the issue, but the rule should be changed.
 
Better_Call_Raul said:
But Felix is whining in this instance. "A disgrace of a rule".
Felix fails to understand that he is jeopardizing the health of players by forcing them to play through injuries.
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You are entitled to your opinion. In my books, he sees what many don't or are affraid to say; that is that not all injuries require immediate assistance. So, I am sorry but I feel you are more melodramatic than Felix is.
 
TennisBro said:
You are entitled to your opinion. In my books, he sees what many don't or are affraid to say; that is that not all injuries require immediate assistance. So, I am sorry but I feel you are more melodramatic than Felix is.
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It is not a matter of opinion.
The MTO rule has been in place for 40 years and the rule exists to protect the injured player.

One player, ADF, shamelessly abused the rule. Most players do not do what ADF did. It is very rare.
It does not warrant changing the rule and penalizing a game against the injured player.

What will you say when a player is seriously injured because he is afraid to call for a MTO?
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"The purpose of the medical evaluation is to determine if the player has developed a treatable medical condition and, if so, to determine when medical treatment is warranted. Such evaluation should be performed within a reasonable length of time, balancing player safety on the one hand, and continuous play on the other."
 
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sureshs said:
If a pro loses rhythm on the serve because of a returner's MTO, is he really not a pro?
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The smart pro will use the opponent's shady MTO antics as an opportunity to meditate and raise his level.
Not call for a blanket rule change that will penalize legitimately injured players and result in many players getting seriously injured.

Felix is, sadly, not thinking clearly, and fails to see the see the big pictire, which is a common problem with Canadians.
 
Better_Call_Raul said:
It is not a matter of opinion.
The MTO rule has been in place for 40 years and the rule exists to protect the injured player.
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A great doc's opinion is the fact
Better_Call_Raul said:
"The purpose of the medical evaluation is to determine if the player has developed a treatable medical condition and, if so, to determine when medical treatment is warranted. Such evaluation should be performed within a reasonable length of time, balancing player safety on the one hand, and continuous play on the other."
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A great pro player knows that
 
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