I believe in Roger for the S/F against Djokovic

Well one thing I know is it’s roger Federer so you can never count him out. I am confident Djokovic will win but of course Fed being a 20 slam champion always has a chance.

Hopefully it’s a great match.
 
I believe in Roger for the S/F against Djokovic

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After getting pushed to 5 sets against 2 journeymen (the 2nd of which he had to save 7 MPs and is now injured) how's he going to beat the AO GOAT?
 
I'm expecting a repeat of FO 2011 s/final and AO 17 final where Roger was counted out but then delivered a masterclass both times to win.
I beli21ve in Roger.
I believe he can defeat Djokovic and eventually win the title despite being counted out and against all odds.
Because you wrote it like that, it's not gonna happen.
 
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I'm expecting a repeat of FO 2011 s/final and AO 17 final where Roger was counted out but then delivered a masterclass both times to win.
I beli21ve in Roger.
I believe he can defeat Djokovic and eventually win the title despite being counted out and against all odds.

I will put 500 GBP on Federer. it is 1:5.5. I thought to put on Djokovic, but it is only 1:14 (not worth it). If Djokovic wins, I will be happy to lose those 500, If he loses, I will be happy as well.
 
Federer hasn’t beaten Novak in a major since 2012 but you think he’s going to beat him now with Fed nursing a groin problem and at Novak’s best event?

that’s a bold take
 
Regardless of ranking since Fed is #3, this would be one of the biggest upsets in Slam history. Comparable to Connors beating McEnroe in 82 Wimbledon although Connors was in better form.

So I don't know really. Would be up there.
 
Regardless of ranking since Fed is #3, this would be one of the biggest upsets in Slam history. Comparable to Connors beating McEnroe in 82 Wimbledon although Connors was in better form.

So I don't know really. Would be up there.

No way. Federer beat Djokovic a month ago.
 
Regardless of ranking since Fed is #3, this would be one of the biggest upsets in Slam history. Comparable to Connors beating McEnroe in 82 Wimbledon although Connors was in better form.

So I don't know really. Would be up there.

Agreed. I'd put this up there with 39 year old Connors' odds of beating Courier at the 1991 USO semis. Courier steamrolled Connors 6-3, 6-3, 6-2. Now granted, Connors isn't a 20 time slam title champion. But Courier wasn't in the same universe as Djoker. This Fed match might even have worse odds, TBH.
 
The odds are about 7/1 in favor of Djokovic. My wife will likely put money on Fed, due to the massive payout. But quite honestly, I think that the odds should be more like 15/1. Federer is hurt, old, and going against a complete monster at the AO. I'm just keeping this real. I love longshot bets. I don't ever bet on even-money things, let alone a near shoe-in. But 7/1 isn't enough of a longshot. If Thiem were a 7/1 underdog in the final against Djoker, I'd bet on Thiem all day long.
 
Nadl's out, so 1 less pressure point for Fedr. He might just come out swinging. He d*mn well knows that he's playing with house money to begin with bc he should've lost twice. And he's not expected to win this one as the huge underdog, noted by posters above. With no Nadl breathing down his neck even if he wins, now's the time Oldman.
 
Agreed. I'd put this up there with 39 year old Connors' odds of beating Courier at the 1991 USO semis. Courier steamrolled Connors 6-3, 6-3, 6-2. Now granted, Connors isn't a 20 time slam title champion. But Courier wasn't in the same universe as Djoker. This Fed match might even have worse odds, TBH.

I was just thinking that this AO run from Fed was similar to Connors' 1991 USO run. Which of course ended - as you say - in a comprehensive defeat vs. a top younger player.
 
I was just thinking that this AO run from Fed was similar to Connors' 1991 USO run. Which of course ended - as you say - in a comprehensive defeat vs. a top younger player.
Yeah, but Courier was about to hit his peak and was only 21, while Novak is already a veteran (though still playing great) and over 30. Not to mention that Fed is a top 3 player, Jimbo was unseeded.
I expect a more competitive match tomorrow.
 
Aside from his injuries, here are some other advantages that Federer and his extra years of practice has. There are quotes from former players, coaches and analysts:

Federer has had to work harder for his victories this fortnight. Why?
ESPN tennis reporter Peter Bodo: Call me a skeptic, or a grump; but in my experience, you actually can't have it all, at least not forever. And as much as I admire and respect Federer, and stand in awe of the way he's walked this triangular tightrope strung between career and family and age, it can't have lasted forever. The game is just too demanding. Federer is already in a kind of farewell tour mode, happily refusing to make the kinds of sacrifices he once made for career, and we're at the point where it's beginning to show. It's fine. He doesn't owe tennis a dime, and I hope he sticks around as long as he's having fun.
ESPN tennis contributor Simon Cambers: Two reasons. He's 38, and the conditions -- courts and balls -- seem to have been slower than ever. He's also played a couple of grinders in John Millman and Tennys Sandgren, who made life very hard for him, while his timing has not quite been there.
ESPN tennis analyst Darren Cahill: The conditions have been slower, much slower. It's also been cooler this year, so it's been much tougher to get the ball through the court. Most players have been saying it's harder to finish points; so for a guy who likes finishing points, it's been a more difficult tournament. He just hasn't been able to play that aggressive type of tennis.
ESPN tennis analyst Chris Evert: He played two hot players, so credit to them. Millman and Sandgren had no pressure and could go out there and just fire balls at Roger. They knew he wasn't as invincible as, say, five years ago. They all have a little bit of belief they can beat him, so their mindsets have improved and they just go out and play their best tennis. On the other hand, Roger has gone in and out a little bit. He's 38 and it's hard to have that intensity every single point when you've played for 20 years on the tour. The freshness factor is not there, at all. It's probably a combination. Mentally, Roger has probably lost a slight edge, and these other guys believe they can beat him. It's the same thing when players play Serena.
ESPN tennis analyst Brad Gilbert: Well, he's 38! He's actually had a great draw, but he's had to scrap. He found a way against Millman, but he was a little tired against Marton Fucsovics [in the fourth round] in the first set but found a way. I've never sat courtside and heard him grunting as loud as he was. Against Sandgren, you probably lose that match 99.999 out of 100, but somehow he found a way and that's the sign of a great player. The four most valuable words in tennis are "game," "set," "match" and your name. Everyone gets bogged down thinking it always has to be perfect, but sometimes it's not.
 
the odds for a fed win are low and expectedly so.

but lets not forget that fed beat Djokovic at the peak of his powers in 2011...granted Federer played one of his best matches ever...but it is possible....

but for his brain fart at W last yr, fed would have won his 9th having beaten two all time greats at 38....

i still don't know if he can win the important pts against djoker...he has disappointed so many many times when he has been in better form against novak in deciding sets and big matches.
 
Still a little salty that Federer took a set in 2016 and ruined a perfect 9-0 in sets at AO (discounting their Rebound Ace meeting - different surface, different match).
Hoping for Djokovic to win in straights again. Will make a fine addition to my AO Fedovic beatdown playlist.
 
I will put 500 GBP on Federer. it is 1:5.5. I thought to put on Djokovic, but it is only 1:14 (not worth it). If Djokovic wins, I will be happy to lose those 500, If he loses, I will be happy as well.

wowow bravo man............lololololololol ur 1/2 quid will vaporize <2.5hrs straight sets. joker implied when asked abt dat 7 match points, only 1 needed. we'll see tonight how far ur 1/2 quid can fair tonight, lololololololol:-D:-D:-D:-D:-D:-D:-D:-D:-D........................
 
I'm expecting a repeat of FO 2011 s/final and AO 17 final where Roger was counted out but then delivered a masterclass both times to win.
I beli21ve in Roger.
I believe he can defeat Djokovic and eventually win the title despite being counted out and against all odds.
I can't remember seeing him play worse. It's like his knife is blunt.
 
What exactly do you mean by 'unfair' in this circumstance?

How does 'pretty' as in 'pretty unfair' function in the sentence?

If you could give us some clarification here it would be appreciated.

It’s pretty unfair that Federer is facing Djokovic instead of Berrettini in the semis.
 
I don't get the comparison to Connors '91 vs. Courier. Connors was a great grinder, but at the time, not near the brilliance , fitness, current ranking and legacy of Federer. Connors was also ranked over 50 at the time. And Kricksten wasn't outstanding, while Millman and Sandgren were playing the matches of their lives. (similar to Istomin vs. Djokovich) Sure, Fed has a lowered chance, and hopefully isn't injury bothered, but still a chance if he can pull out some brilliance from within that's he's known for.
 
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I'm expecting a repeat of FO 2011 s/final and AO 17 final where Roger was counted out but then delivered a masterclass both times to win.
I beli21ve in Roger.
I believe he can defeat Djokovic and eventually win the title despite being counted out and against all odds.
That just won’t happen.
 
Still hard to believe he's made it to this match tbh.

Now I can truly appreciate why His Fraudulence has so many haters. It hurts just thinking about the damage that his kleptomania has done to millions of fans of honest, hardworking players. Sandgren and Millman didn't even play that badly or choke that terribly. They just couldn't handle the sheer brazenness.

I'm actually excited to see just how much l'ancien fraudeur can get away with before he retires. The older3r he gets the worse it'll get, so I'm sure we'll see even betterer before he's through. The best part is he's not gonna change. Just gonna keep the disrespeck flowing by remaining breakpointerer. You'll keep coughing up chances until I see a midcourt drive BH volley that I like the look of.
 
Djokovic is the heavy favorite, and rightfully so. That said, Federer's underestimated at your peril, something that I'm sure Novak would acknowledge without any hesitation.
 
Djokovic is the heavy favorite, and rightfully so. That said, Federer's underestimated at your peril, something that I'm sure Novak would acknowledge without any hesitation.

OCO, when has Nole ever taken Fedal for granted or underestimated them? If anything he'll be more prepared and ready to deal with them; esp. the old man since a loss would be so embarrassing! I'm hoping for an annihilation pf Roger even pushing himself in this tourney! He should be saving himself for Wimbledon and the USO for the most part and forget these fringe majors "down under" and in Paris! He's not going to win either again with the NG's on his arse! Wasn't his beating by Tsitsipas last year telling enough? :sneaky:
 
You would never bet against Federer to produce something magic, just like you would never bet against Nadal to not fight until the last point as if his life depended on it.

Then, looking at it objectively:
- Djokovic has been in incredible form of late
- Federer has looked rusty all tournament
- Federer has played a couple of very long games, which must have taken their toll physically even if he wasn't injured
- He didn't train yesterday because his has to manage his groin
- The playing conditions are much slower at this year's AO than in previous editions

All of which point in one direction, which is a Djokovic win.
 
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