I can guarantee now that Rafa and Novak will land in opposite halves at Rg 2021.

NoleIsBoat said:
2017 Federer
2019 Djokovic


Uninjured would have pummeled Nadal
Click to expand...
Lmao.
Reality is Nadal was beating both with ease. Nadal beat the guys who beat Federer and Djokovic.
USO record of Nadal seems to engineer the most butthurt among his haters. Strange really. 4 is cool but not as epic as 13 haha
 
Forehanderer said:
lol please. Rafa had no chance against these two especially v Djokovic. He was mugged back in AO that year and Nadal hasn't beaten Federer outside clay since 2017. Any new gen facing him forget Medvedev was basically a chance for Nadal to vulture. Rafa's main weapon is his unique game which is discomforting to any new gen. New gen are better facing Fedovic than Nadal.
Click to expand...
If you do not understand difference between AO and USO i question how closely you follow the sport.
Nadal would have crushed Federer in 2017 as Federer pretty much admitted it lol. He said Delpo had a better chance to stop Nadal.
Djokovic in 2019 woukd have suffered at least one breadstick maybe a bagel v Nadal 2019. The Nadal intensity coupled with the wild Ashe crowd and atmosphere intimidates Djokovic at USO.
 
Beckerserve said:
If you do not understand difference between AO and USO i question how closely you follow the sport.
Nadal would have crushed Federer in 2017 as Federer pretty much admitted it lol. He said Delpo had a better chance to stop Nadal.
Djokovic in 2019 woukd have suffered at least one breadstick maybe a bagel v Nadal 2019. The Nadal intensity coupled with the wild Ashe crowd and atmosphere intimidates Djokovic at USO.
Click to expand...
Yeah the injured Fed that’s the point. If Fed was fully fit and brought his IW or Shanghai level, it’s curtains for the Nadal.
 
SardinesForDinner said:
To be fair, neither Djokovic or Murray were US Open champions by 2010 and 2011 respectively. Especially you can't consider Djokovic from 2010 in the same league he's been since 2011. US Open 2010 draw was a joke, even a Nadal fan must realize that.

Same with 2017. Del Potro ran completely out of gas after his performance against Federer, then a lackluster and already happy Kevin Anderson in the final.
Click to expand...
2011 US Open Djokovic is deeply overrated.
If you watch the 2011 US Open Final........you can see Nadal has no confidence and is reluctant to hit down-the-line, so he goes crosscourt too often and that gives Djokovic the upperhand.
2010 and 2013 US Open Finals........Nadal is full of confidence and aggressively going down-the-line on big points........and there is nothing Djokovic can do........so Nadal won 6-2 in 4th Set at 2010 USO........and Nadal won 6-1 in 4th Set at 2013 USO.
Hitting forehands down-the-line on big points in slam finals did not come naturally for Nadal during the Uncle Toni era........he was mostly a crosscourt player, so playing aggressively only happened if his confidence was peaking.
Whereas in the Moya era he's starting to hit down-the-line on big points more routinely (but still its not his natural play).
 
NADALalot said:
2011 US Open Djokovic is deeply overrated.
If you watch the 2011 US Open Final........you can see Nadal has no confidence and is reluctant to hit down-the-line, so he goes crosscourt too often and that gives Djokovic the upperhand.
2010 and 2013 US Open Finals........Nadal is full of confidence and aggressively going down-the-line on big points........and there is nothing Djokovic can do........so Nadal won 6-2 in 4th Set at 2010 USO........and Nadal won 6-1 in 4th Set at 2013 USO.
Hitting forehands down-the-line on big points in slam finals did not come naturally for Nadal during the Uncle Toni era........he was mostly a crosscourt player, so playing aggressively only happened if his confidence was peaking.
Whereas in the Moya era he's starting to hit down-the-line on big points more routinely (but still its not his natural play).
Click to expand...

Couldnt have said it any better myself. Passive Nadal plays too much into Novak's strengths. Aggressive Nadal makes Novak work and have to play for the DTL FH.
 
Beckerserve said:
If you do not understand difference between AO and USO i question how closely you follow the sport.
Nadal would have crushed Federer in 2017 as Federer pretty much admitted it lol. He said Delpo had a better chance to stop Nadal.
Djokovic in 2019 woukd have suffered at least one breadstick maybe a bagel v Nadal 2019. The Nadal intensity coupled with the wild Ashe crowd and atmosphere intimidates Djokovic at USO.
Click to expand...
He withdrew from cincinnati which he usually plays. Federer has a habit of downplaying injuries maybe that's why he said what he did. He beat Nadal not just in AO but much more convincingly in Miami. That year was Roger's but Nadal still sneaked 2 GS instead of his usual RG. That's another reason why I consider him lucky. Djokovic wasn't intimidated by the crowd facing Federer in USO multiple times. Nadal had no chance. Ned would have gone down in straights like he did earlier that year.
 
zagor said:
Edberg was very close to winning FO and Becker made 3 FO SFs. That in an era when it was much harder to achieve all-surface success.
Click to expand...
Yup, it took a wonder kid in Chang to defeat him. Edberg was favorite after Lendl was defeated by Chang. You are responding to a poster who believes RG success is more important than HC and Grass which was never the case in the 90s. He definitely is wearing his red bull sponsored glasses. Most clay courters suffered in HC and grass. There was also a protest regarding the seeding system in Wimbledon which favored better grass players. Also most HC and grass players skipped RG from time to time because they couldn't make it there. Sampras is a good example. It was a different era.
 
Forehanderer said:
By 22, Roger won his first AO. Maybe you weren't around then
Click to expand...
you are obviously right on that. I personally consider a year gone, when that birthday comes around ... hence my confusion. Having said that, the point still stands, Federer had not mastered all grand slams on all surfaces by 22. Even on hard-court he was not faster than Nadal ... who by 22 had won AO as well ...
 
serve said:
you are obviously right on that. I personally consider a year gone, when that birthday comes around ... hence my confusion. Having said that, the point still stands, Federer had not mastered all grand slams on all surfaces by 22. Even on hard-court he was not faster than Nadal ... who by 22 had won AO as well ...
Click to expand...
By mastered, you mean have 1,2,4 on other slams than RG. Roger has 6,1,8,5. His record is more even. so is Djokovic who is 9,1,5,3. Accept it your guy has a clay skew
 
I never thought this thread would be a hit, also this will survive much longer considering draw is coming up on Thursday and if rafa-novak land together I will be trolled
 
serve said:
you are obviously right on that. I personally consider a year gone, when that birthday comes around ... hence my confusion. Having said that, the point still stands, Federer had not mastered all grand slams on all surfaces by 22. Even on hard-court he was not faster than Nadal ... who by 22 had won AO as well ...
Click to expand...
So did Federer. Quicker than Nadal.
 
Forehanderer said:
He withdrew from cincinnati which he usually plays. Federer has a habit of downplaying injuries maybe that's why he said what he did. He beat Nadal not just in AO but much more convincingly in Miami. That year was Roger's but Nadal still sneaked 2 GS instead of his usual RG. That's another reason why I consider him lucky. Djokovic wasn't intimidated by the crowd facing Federer in USO multiple times. Nadal had no chance. Ned would have gone down in straights like he did earlier that year.
Click to expand...
You are just deluded and butt hurt. Nadal was going to thrash Federer at USO 2017 which Federer largely admitted.
And Nadal was YE1 2017 belonged to Nadal.
Djokovic 2019 was not even a threat to Nadal. Easy straight sets maybe not as easy as RG2020 but would have been similar.
 
NoleIsBoat said:
Yeah the injured Fed that’s the point. If Fed was fully fit and brought his IW or Shanghai level, it’s curtains for the Nadal.
Click to expand...
Lol no. USO is Nadals domain. Nadal leads Federer on outdoor HC. I know that rankles many but it is what it is. The match up on outdoor hard suits Nadal. Hence the h2h.
 
Curtennis said:
I had no idea the tennis community was so catty before joining this forum.
That said, I hope to see Rafa play his best! Always marvelous to see him play the clay.
Click to expand...

Its pathetic on here.

Before every major tournament, all everyone talks about is draws being rigged, or that some player has an easy draw.

No one ever seemed to care about the draw till this whole slam race started getting closer between the big 3.

Its embarassing.
 
Beckerserve said:
You are just deluded and butt hurt. Nadal was going to thrash Federer at USO 2017 which Federer largely admitted.
And Nadal was YE1 2017 belonged to Nadal.
Djokovic 2019 was not even a threat to Nadal. Easy straight sets maybe not as easy as RG2020 but would have been similar.
Click to expand...
right back at ya pal. watch the hammering Federer gave to Nadal in Miami. It wont be a miracle for a repeat. Since ao17, nadal hasn't won against federer on HC or grass. 2019 would be a straight setter. you got that right. But it would be Djokovic smashing Nadal 8-B
 
When the FO organizers ask Nadal which players he does not want in his half, which two players will he pick this year? Tsitsipas and Zverev or Djokovic and Thiem?
 
Forehanderer said:
right back at ya pal. watch the hammering Federer gave to Nadal in Miami. It wont be a miracle for a repeat. Since ao17, nadal hasn't won against federer on HC or grass. 2019 would be a straight setter. you got that right. But it would be Djokovic smashing Nadal 8-B
Click to expand...
No. Miami is ultra humid. USO bounces higher and balls are more lively.
Djokovic is not getting close to 2019 Nadal on decoturf. Federer would give Rafa a harder time but over 5 sets Rafa wears Roger down.
Djokovic is far better on greenset and plexi.
You have to appreciate the difference in various hard courts. That is not me being arrogant or dismissive as most people assume hardcourts play similar. I know differently as i have played on them all and the difference between decoturf and greenset is almost as wide as clay and grass.
 
Beckerserve said:
No. Miami is ultra humid. USO bounces higher and balls are more lively.
Djokovic is not getting close to 2019 Nadal on decoturf. Federer would give Rafa a harder time but over 5 sets Rafa wears Roger down.
Djokovic is far better on greenset and plexi.
You have to appreciate the difference in various hard courts. That is not me being arrogant or dismissive as most people assume hardcourts play similar. I know differently as i have played on them all and the difference between decoturf and greenset is almost as wide as clay and grass.
Click to expand...
We all saw what happened that year in AO. Djokovic or Federer are no mugs on USO either. Its still HC where Rafa stands behind them and is lucky to vulture the slam in their absence. You can deny it all you want but that's the truth.
I doubt you have played on any courts. Sorry but can't take your account of yourself on the internet seriously. BTW I'm 6'4 and 200 lbs 8-B
 
Forehanderer said:
We all saw what happened that year in AO. Djokovic or Federer are no mugs on USO either. Its still HC where Rafa stands behind them and is lucky to vulture the slam in their absence. You can deny it all you want but that's the truth.
I doubt you have played on any courts. Sorry but can't take your account of yourself on the internet seriously. BTW I'm 6'4 and 200 lbs 8-B
Click to expand...
AO is not USO bud. Plexi v DecoTurf.
No offence but Federer said he would have lost to Nadal after he lost to Del Potro so with respect i am right you are wrong.
You can doubt what you like bud. I am a good player who has played on all surfaces. You clearly have not. I am not sure why you are giving me your vitals. I am not looking for a date bud. I do not swing that way for one and i am too busy anyway.
 
Quarter-final lineup will look like this:

Djokovic (1) v Tsitsipas (5)
Thiem (4) v Zverev (6)
Federer (8) v Nadal (3)
Rublev (7) v Medvedev (2)
 
Beckerserve said:
AO is not USO bud. Plexi v DecoTurf.
No offence but Federer said he would have lost to Nadal after he lost to Del Potro so with respect i am right you are wrong.
You can doubt what you like bud. I am a good player who has played on all surfaces. You clearly have not. I am not sure why you are giving me your vitals. I am not looking for a date bud. I do not swing that way for one and i am too busy anyway.
Click to expand...
You're a pretty good troll but you have to step it up a notch. theres always room for improvement, no?
 
Forehanderer said:
You're a pretty good troll but you have to step it up a notch. theres always room for improvement, no?
Click to expand...
How is Nadal won USO 2017 and 2019 justifiably and would have beat Federer and Djokovic respectively trolling exactly. They lost to lower ranked players. They were not beating Nadal. Deal with it. Own it. Move on.
 
helterskelter said:
Quarter-final lineup will look like this:

Djokovic (1) v Tsitsipas (5)
Thiem (4) v Zverev (6)
Federer (8) v Nadal (3)
Rublev (7) v Medvedev (2)
Click to expand...
Makes sense if the FO wants Nadal to have the easiest path to the final so that he is as fresh as a daisy. Put all the guys who are more likely to give Nadal a tough match on clay (Djokovic, Zverev, Tsitsipas and Thiem) on the other side of the draw. Federer at 40 and Medvedev are not serious threats on clay and Rublev has the least big-match success amongst the other NextGen players. Who knows even Sinner and Karatsev might be in the Djokovic half of the draw.
 
merwy said:
It's insane that although people here were constantly complaining about it and mocking it, nobody started an actual investigation into all those fixed draws. They couldn't have been more blatant about it.
Click to expand...
Nah they don't fix semi final seeds, but Isner-Mahut 1st round again in 2011 now that's next level ****
 
kevaninho said:
Its pathetic on here.

Before every major tournament, all everyone talks about is draws being rigged, or that some player has an easy draw.

No one ever seemed to care about the draw till this whole slam race started getting closer between the big 3.

Its embarassing.
Click to expand...
Well, that's how the weak era started. In case Nadal or Djokovic wasn't going to pass Fed, they always had weak era to fall back on to diminish Fed's achievements.

The entire internet is psthwtic when it comes to these 3 players.
 
At last year's RG, Sinner took more games off Nadal (11) than Djokovic did (7).
And Zverev is a wimp at slams, 0-9 vs. Top 10 players.
Thiem is in career-worst form and has no hope of winning a set vs. Nadal, considering he's 1-12 in sets vs. Nadal at RG....
 
Nadal_King said:
With thiem form getting worse each tournament, I don't see thiem landing in Medvedev half as it could really make for a weak half as even if you let Tsitsipas in there still you have chances of having a bad final which I feel rg can't afford atleast on paper. There seeding system of last time suggest they will easily manipulate to put the big ones in opposite half so as to atleast have a chance of a big final matchup otherwise it could end up something like Nadal vs Rublev which imo rg organizers wouldn't want.
Click to expand...
Can you bet your house on this?
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Similar threads

skypadq
andrey rublev will be biggest threat for nadal in 2021 RG
Replies
49
Views
1K
DIMI_D
DIMI_D
N
  • Poll Poll
Which final will be more competitive at Rg this year- Nadal-Thiem, Nadal- Djokovic or Nadal- Tsitsipas?
2
Replies
56
Views
1K
Winner
W
skypadq
RG :: i really want novak djokovic and rafa meet semi final in french open
Replies
10
Views
480
nochweiterroger
N
N
If Rafa can win Ao 2022, he will correct what went wrong at Rg 2021.
2
Replies
96
Views
3K
Nadal_King
N
Yugram
Now that the dust settles... Let’s take a closer look at RG 2021 draw.
2
Replies
70
Views
3K
DIMI_D
DIMI_D
Back
Top