i cant believe he could become the greatest player of all time tomorrow

terribleIVAN

Hall of Fame
He deserves it: Rafa couldn't hold him off this time at RG because his injury.

But Nole has the merit of knocking constantly at the door year after year, contrary to a certain titlist who would rather concentrate on winning Wimbledon exclusively.

And he does it at 34 nonetheless.
 

weakera

G.O.A.T.
He deserves it: Rafa couldn't hold him off this time at RG because his injury.

But Nole has the merit of knocking constantly at the door year after year, contrary to a certain titlist who would rather concentrate on winning Wimbledon exclusively.

And he does it at 34 nonetheless.

That is his greatest trait, his health, endurance and consistency. Other than those 18 months when he crashed out of the top-20 he's a contender at every slam.
 

gadge

Professional
He deserves it: Rafa couldn't hold him off this time at RG because his injury.

But Nole has the merit of knocking constantly at the door year after year, contrary to a certain titlist who would rather concentrate on winning Wimbledon exclusively.

And he does it at 34 nonetheless.
I can’t think of anyone who’d have beaten even a compromised Rafa other than Novak not even thiem. It’s even more impressive that he did it not long after that beating he took on the same court and coming in with not a lot of confidence.
 

terribleIVAN

Hall of Fame
I can’t think of anyone who’d have beaten even a compromised Rafa other than Novak not even thiem. It’s even more impressive that he did it not long after that beating he took on the same court and coming in with not a lot of confidence.
Yes, but let's be frank here: the Rafa of October 2020 would have beaten him just the same.
Novak deserves props, but circumstances favored him this time, and he rightfully took advantage.
 

Start da Game

Hall of Fame
there is no such thing as greatest ever........big-3 would have had less than sampras-esque careers in the 90s if they played the same game styles they play today........all the previous generations are disadvantaged in GOAT contest due to lack of advances in health, recovery and nutrition.......pistol pete was an athlete way ahead of his time and would have possibly won 25 slams in this era with modern diet regime and modern recovery methods.......but that is only a speculation, we can never be sure and that's why there will never be a GOAT no matter how much anyone wins........
 

Slicehand

Semi-Pro
Im not a novak fan, never was, but his mental aproach and motivation is inspiring, never respected him more than now, hes got to a place mentally where hes untouchable, and nobody can do anything about it, i wish rafas body wasnt so teared up after the years, and we would see a greater competition, but everything that novak is doing now, he deserves it, all crowds cheering against him... he just doesnt care, hes too strong, im being amazed by his mental game just the same i was with federers virtuosity
 

Strale

Semi-Pro
When you constantly play against 2 (opposition/crowd) and you completely dominate two main rivals who were considered the best in history,yes you are the greatest of all time.Everything else are excuses.
 

Sunny014

Legend
When you constantly play against 2 (opposition/crowd) and you completely dominate two main rivals who were considered the best in history,yes you are the greatest of all time.Everything else are excuses.
When you constantly play against 2 (opposition/crowd) and you completely dominate two main rivals when they were not at their peak (who were considered the best in history), then no, you are not the greatest of all time. Excuses are valid.

Now it is right.
 

Strale

Semi-Pro
When you constantly play against 2 (opposition/crowd) and you completely dominate two main rivals when they were not at their peak (who were considered the best in history), then no, you are not the greatest of all time. Excuses are valid.

Now it is right.
As i said nothing but excuses....Federer was born declined and Nadal was born injured according to butthurt fans logic...:D

Everytime when Djokovic lost he was not in his prime and he had a secret injury...
 

Sunny014

Legend
As i said nothing but excuses....Federer was born declined and Nadal was born injured according to butthurt fans logic...:D

Everytime when Djokovic lost he was not in his prime and he had a secret injury...
@Strale

Thought of asking.
Have you tried closing the Captains Of Crush Hand Gripper 4 (365 pounds weight) ?
 

Strale

Semi-Pro
@Strale

Thought of asking.
Have you tried closing the Captains Of Crush Hand Gripper 4 (365 pounds weight) ?
Nope

Have you tried 10 reps of deep 120kg squats into ten reps of deep squat jumps with 10kg disk into 10 reps box jumps...

I was the only one doing it in my local gym :)))))
 

Sunny014

Legend
I did few years ago...I successfully closed my hand with few easy and medium ones but there were few that i couldn't close even with both my hands lol...
I've ordered a Gripper 3 (300lbs), will see how it turns out. I too have closed many medium ones.
 

Bambooman

Semi-Pro
Not possible to date here, in this forum it is impossible to even know which poster is female and which poster is male, such are the challenges here, how to find out which posters are female here?
Not sure that matters with some of these comments.
 

Sunny014

Legend
Not sure that matters with some of these comments.
Discussing about hand gripper is purely sports related talk (as in arm-wrestling) and also because I've recently ordered one which will be delivered on Saturday, so I am excited about it as I've never tried the COC Grippers.

So keep your perverted homosexual fantasies to yourself, the fact that you even get such notions says a lot about yourself, haha
 

Strale

Semi-Pro
Nice.... You seem to have an athletic build

I am 82kgs of bodyweight with 179 cms height....
Yeah i trained football my whole life....Last few years i only hit the gym few times a week and also play football with my friends 1 or 2 times a week...

Cant do much more cos of work and college.
 

Sunny014

Legend
Hmm you are similar build like me if we adjust for height and weight...
No not that athletic, I have at least 7-8 kilos of extra body weight that is unnecessary fat. I had not been working out enough during the lockdown, had crossed 87, now I am getting back to my athletic self....
 

Strale

Semi-Pro
In few minutes i am gonna start a training:

Eight 70 meters all out sprints
Six 40 meters all out sprints

4 sets of jump squats with barbell (30kg) together with romanian deadlift super set

4 sets of 20 reps each leg lounges with a barbell(30kg)

and for the end of the workout forward deep squat jumps frog style...

This is a workout at home,gonna run sprints i front of my house...@Sunny014
 

Bambooman

Semi-Pro
Discussing about hand gripper is purely sports related talk (as in arm-wrestling) and also because I've recently ordered one which will be delivered on Saturday, so I am excited about it as I've never tried the COC Grippers.

So keep your perverted homosexual fantasies to yourself, the fact that you even get such notions says a lot about yourself, haha
Well you're the person(or at least one of them) who segued a thread about a player into a body type and grip strength discussion.

NTTAWWT
 

Strale

Semi-Pro
No not that athletic, I have at least 7-8 kilos of extra body weight that is unnecessary fat. I had not been working out enough during the lockdown, had crossed 87, now I am getting back to my athletic self....
Willpower is the hardest thing...I was at 96 kg last November and decided to build muscle and slim down a bit ..

Stiil working out almost a year...
 

Sunny014

Legend
Willpower is the hardest thing...I was at 96 kg last November and decided to build muscle and slim down a bit ..

Stiil working out almost a year...
Yeah, I've cut down on junk food and unhealthy lifestyle, have increased protein intake, had cut down on unnecessary calories and I am also sprinting a lot + occasional weight training. Goal is get back to a very athletic built.

Once we gain fat it is so tough to get rid of it even with a lots of exercise, makes me wonder how Novak/Roger have maintained their physiques for 20 years, these guys look the same as they did 15-20 years back, remarkable.
 

Strale

Semi-Pro
Yeah, I've cut down on junk food and unhealthy lifestyle, have increased protein intake, had cut down on unnecessary calories and I am also sprinting a lot + occasional weight training. Goal is get back to a very athletic built.

Once we gain fat it is so tough to get rid of it even with a lots of exercise, makes me wonder how Novak/Roger have maintained their physiques for 20 years, these guys look the same as they did 15-20 years back, remarkable.
Dont give up, remember that consistency is the key...

Novak and Roger have a pro lifestyle since they were like 10 years old and also diet is 80 percent of the success together with 8-9 hours of sleep...

Sprints and weights are incredible combo if used properly.
 

big ted

Hall of Fame
i think he improved more than the other two players (mostly becuz he had to)..
and more open to try new things from that todd martin serve coaching fiasco, to pepe,
to becker (really helped him here), agassi, etc... not to mention his diet change..
if anything hurt rafa its his injuries of course and seems stubborn with trying new things..
federer was more of a finished product sooner and didnt really have anything to chase
except rafa occasionally. anyway kudos to djoko (i still hope medvedev wins tho lol)
 

cortadew

New User
there is no such thing as greatest ever........big-3 would have had less than sampras-esque careers in the 90s if they played the same game styles they play today........all the previous generations are disadvantaged in GOAT contest due to lack of advances in health, recovery and nutrition.......pistol pete was an athlete way ahead of his time and would have possibly won 25 slams in this era with modern diet regime and modern recovery methods.......but that is only a speculation, we can never be sure and that's why there will never be a GOAT no matter how much anyone wins........
Pistol pete would barely be top 10 in this era
 
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Deleted member 771911

Guest
What? Pete's been the greatest of all time since the mid 90s.
 

TennisFan3

G.O.A.T.
Novak is more talented than Federer and Nadal. He has the mental strength of Sampras. The speed and endurance of Borg.

He IS the tennis GOAT. There can be no disputing that. There are many sports where he argue on the greatest, such as in football, basketball, formula 1 etc.

But in Tennis there will be Novak and Novak alone. No other player comes close. And with CYGS Novak has rubber stamped the GOAT distinction.
 

BeatlesFan

Bionic Poster
Not possible to date here, in this forum it is impossible to even know which poster is female and which poster is male, such are the challenges here, how to find out which posters are female here?
Untrue. Back in the day you had two people get married who "met" on this Forum. I ain't lyin'!
 

Sunny014

Legend
Untrue. Back in the day you had two people get married who "met" on this Forum. I ain't lyin'!
How is that possible?
Lol, sounds tough to believe.
Those things happen on Facebook a lot, here the structure of the profiles is really different, no information about the person is given on the profile, like gender (it is mostly hidden), real face, real contacts on what the person does etc etc..... this forum is only suitable for tennis related stuffs only :D
 
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