I can't play with 98's

thatguymattin

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Ninety-eight square inch racquets seem like they would be the perfect sized racquets for me. I do not like one-hundred square inch racquets, or above, because they lack feel, control, and are too erratic to play with overall. I currently play with three Wilson K Pro Staff 88's, and have previously played with Blade 93's, Wilson Six One Tour BLX's, and an APDGT prior to switching down head sizes. I traded out my Blade 93's their string pattern was too dense for my taste, and my Tour 90's because I felt like experimenting with racquets; plus their condition were not so great anymore after playing the rest of High School tennis with them.

I am an 18 year-old self-taught tennis player via YouTube, who has played for close to four years, and I am self evaluating myself to be around to be a 3.5 or 4.0. I don't play any tournaments because there are none around my area. Any whom, I have been improving a lot ever since I switched to my K88's. My body doesn't feel fatigue from using the racquet like so many players on this forum had mentioned.

I had previously only touched my tennis racquet only to rally with people. The only times I would play sets were only in high-school, but I started playing more recently because I am going to try-out for my college's tennis team. The reason for this thread is because I feel like my K88's would be too unforgiving in college tennis, and that the coach might be against me using a racquet with an 88 square inch head size. I have previously mentioned why I don't like 100 square inch+ racquets, but not why I don't like 98 square inch racquets.

I have only tried a few 98 square inch racquets: Yonex's EZONE Xi, EZONE Ai,VCORE Xi 98, and Wilson's Blade 98 (Both 18x20 and 16x19 versions). (Edit: I had an old Head Flexpoint Prestige MP XL, but it felt like it didn't have enough plow through or feel; so I eventually sold it.)

All Yonex racquets I tried felt too stiff, and didn't feel flush like a Yonex EZONE Ai 100 that had inspired me to demo them in the first place. Both Blade 98's felt too light and not solid enough to plow through the ball. I thought that adding lead tape in the handle to make it a bit more head-light would solve the issue, but the racquet felt overall unsatisfactory, and not comparable to my K88's.

I have not tried any racquets other than an old Wilson ncode 95, that are 95 square inches.

I am interested in obtaining a stick that has the heftiness close to my K88's, but with a larger head size. Another reason for my search is because the availability of a K88 are very slim, and I'd like to have a racquet whereas I could replace the bumper and grommets. What would you guys suggest would be a good racquet to try out?




I might just be overly picky...:shock:
 
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1. The KPS88 is actually 90 sq. in. It has been proven on this board that it's the same size as the Tour 90s.. Wilson just calls it an "88".

2. If you have good technique, the KPS88 is an absolute monster and you can blow anyone using a 100 sq. in. racquet off of the court.

3. Since you mentioned you don't get tired using it, I would just stick with the KPS88.
 
try the pacific x-feel pro 95.

I liked Pacific's X Feel Pro 90 Vacuum, but I had my K88's, and the Vacuums required my to hit flatter. I wanted to try the 95, but I'm going to wait until the BLX2 version is released into the United States before trying it. Unless you'd sell me yours for very cheap :mrgreen:.

Also, thanks for the suggestion. I appreciate it.
 
1. The KPS88 is actually 90 sq. in. It has been proven on this board that it's the same size as the Tour 90s.. Wilson just calls it an "88".

2. If you have good technique, the KPS88 is an absolute monster and you can blow anyone using a 100 sq. in. racquet off of the court.

3. Since you mentioned you don't get tired using it, I would just stick with the KPS88.

I have also heard that. Reason why I want to try out something else is because they are going to be hard to replace once they all die. So I might as well prepare for the future. Although I don't get tired hitting with them, arm-wise, I do tend to shank sometimes due to my slow footwork... I tend not to be able to get into the most optimal position a lot. :shock:
 
I, however, am curious about Wilson's Spin lineup. I had the chance to hit with a 105S an acquaintance was demoing, but didn't get to actually hit with it because I noticed a crack in his demoed frame, and didn't want to break it more... I liked Wilson's 2012 BLX90, but it felt a bit too light for me.. I may be too adjusted playing with my K88's...

I already try not to get bumper rash or any hard slices to the ground, but that would only take me so far.
 
I have also heard that. Reason why I want to try out something else is because they are going to be hard to replace once they all die. So I might as well prepare for the future. Although I don't get tired hitting with them, arm-wise, I do tend to shank sometimes due to my slow footwork... I tend not to be able to get into the most optimal position a lot. :shock:
But that has nothing to do with your racquet. That has to do with your footwork. If you work on your footwork, you can play with any any racquet.

BTW, I wouldn't worry about the future. In the future, there will be all sorts of new racquets introduced. If you like what you play with now, just keep playing with it. Some people play with the same racquet for many decades! :shock:
 
Maybe try the babolat pure storms/controls? There's a 95 and 98 sq in version

I forgot to mention that I also hit with a Babolat Pure Strike 98 very briefly, and disliked them the most out of all 98 square inch racquets.

Why? They've been sold here on TW for at least 10 years and I assume they will continue selling them.

What I meant is that racquet isn't generic, and seems to be intimidating to me... but I suppose I am being ignorant. That racquet and it's specifications seem unappealing to me.

But that has nothing to do with your racquet. That has to do with your footwork. If you work on your footwork, you can play with any any racquet.

BTW, I wouldn't worry about the future. In the future, there will be all sorts of new racquets introduced. If you like what you play with now, just keep playing with it. Some people play with the same racquet for many decades! :shock:

The racquets are good for me, but I still want to be safe..

I do sometimes notice that I hit the ball with the beam of my racquet even if I'm in a good position...
 
What I meant is that racquet isn't generic, and seems to be intimidating to me... but I suppose I am being ignorant. That racquet and it's specifications seem unappealing to me.

But why? It has the same exact swingweight as the KPS88. Not many racquets out there currently on the market with a stock swingweight of 345. In fact, I'm pretty sure it's the only one. And swingweight is probably the most important spec in a tennis racquet.

http://www.racquetfinder.com/?name=...ains=&crosses=&current=N&max_price=&x=59&y=18

The racquets are good for me, but I still want to be safe..

I do sometimes notice that I hit the ball with the beam of my racquet even if I'm in a good position...
Well, sounds like giving a 100 a try wouldn't hurt then. :)
 
Ninety-eight square inch racquets seem like they would be the perfect sized racquets for me. I do not like one-hundred square inch racquets, or above, because they lack feel, control, and are too erratic to play with overall. I currently play with three Wilson K Pro Staff 88's, and have previously played with Blade 93's, Wilson Six One Tour BLX's, and an APDGT prior to switching down head sizes. I traded out my Blade 93's their string pattern was too dense for my taste, and my Tour 90's because I felt like experimenting with racquets; plus their condition were not so great anymore after playing the rest of High School tennis with them.

I am an 18 year-old self-taught tennis player via YouTube, who has played for close to four years, and I am self evaluating myself to be around to be a 3.5 or 4.0. I don't play any tournaments because there are none around my area. Any whom, I have been improving a lot ever since I switched to my K88's. My body doesn't feel fatigue from using the racquet like so many players on this forum had mentioned.

I had previously only touched my tennis racquet only to rally with people. The only times I would play sets were only in high-school, but I started playing more recently because I am going to try-out for my college's tennis team. The reason for this thread is because I feel like my K88's would be too unforgiving in college tennis, and that the coach might be against me using a racquet with an 88 square inch head size. I have previously mentioned why I don't like 100 square inch+ racquets, but not why I don't like 98 square inch racquets.

I have only tried a few 98 square inch racquets: Yonex's EZONE Xi, EZONE Ai,VCORE Xi 98, and Wilson's Blade 98 (Both 18x20 and 16x19 versions). (Edit: I had an old Head Flexpoint Prestige MP XL, but it felt like it didn't have enough plow through or feel; so I eventually sold it.)

All Yonex racquets I tried felt too stiff, and didn't feel flush like a Yonex EZONE Ai 100 that had inspired me to demo them in the first place. Both Blade 98's felt too light and not solid enough to plow through the ball. I thought that adding lead tape in the handle to make it a bit more head-light would solve the issue, but the racquet felt overall unsatisfactory, and not comparable to my K88's.

I have not tried any racquets other than an old Wilson ncode 95, that are 95 square inches.

I am interested in obtaining a stick that has the heftiness close to my K88's, but with a larger head size. Another reason for my search is because the availability of a K88 are very slim, and I'd like to have a racquet whereas I could replace the bumper and grommets. What would you guys suggest would be a good racquet to try out?




I might just be overly picky...:shock:
No tournaments nearby and you're in California? Ok what about clubs? Join a club and try-out for the team, at least get on the practice squad for some competitive play.
 
The softest yonex that feels like a Pro staff is the Tour G. It's a 97. You may like the 310 version. Tour G is very comfortable.
 
The closest things to the KPS 88 with a noticeably larger racquet face would be a Six.One 95 or the upcoming RF PS 97.

A racquet I would definitely recommend is the Head Youtek IG Prestige Pro. It is a real 95 square inch head, but my god does that stick play well.

As McLovin mentioned, the X-Feel Pro 95 is a great option, however it is quite low powered.

The Yonex VCore Tour 97 (330g) may be the perfect stick for you based on what you are looking for. Heavy, solid, good feel, but a large and forgiving (thanks to the isometric head shape) 97 square inch head.

There are a few very good options, however, I must agree that the 98-100 head sizes do not offer a lot in the area you are looking for.
 
Here's my options in no particular order:

A. BLX 6.1 95, since you are using a K88, maybe try the 18x20 string pattern with 17G strings. K88 small head 16x19 will probably play closer to 18x20 in 95" head than the 16x18 in 95" head. This is a great all court, any kind of tennis racket - very good for serving, baseline play, and net play.

B. Pro Staff 95 with about 4-6 grams of lead tape around head and maybe a little on handle to counter balance. With lead, this racket could handle anything.

C. Vollk o10 325 or 295 with lead tape on head. The organix line of volkl is crisp but comfortable like the Wilson 6.1 line. Great solid feel.

D. new Wilson PS 97 - either the RF auto or the lighter 11.1 oz option with lead tape customization. Obviously, I have not hit these as they don't come out until October but spec wise they look like a good fit.

E. Wilson Blade 98 try 18x20 and 16x19. maybe add lead to handle for more HL as K88 is more HL.

I think these frames are all good for modern tennis but they retain the thin beam classic feel to a certain degree. Anyone coming from a heavy Wilson thin box beam might be able to transition into these frames with a little work. I think with the right SW, balance and static weight; you can get a very controllable and powerful frame in the 95-98 range.
 
The closest things to the KPS 88 with a noticeably larger racquet face would be a Six.One 95 or the upcoming RF PS 97.

A racquet I would definitely recommend is the Head Youtek IG Prestige Pro. It is a real 95 square inch head, but my god does that stick play well.

As McLovin mentioned, the X-Feel Pro 95 is a great option, however it is quite low powered.

The Yonex VCore Tour 97 (330g) may be the perfect stick for you based on what you are looking for. Heavy, solid, good feel, but a large and forgiving (thanks to the isometric head shape) 97 square inch head.

There are a few very good options, however, I must agree that the 98-100 head sizes do not offer a lot in the area you are looking for.

Here's my options in no particular order:

A. BLX 6.1 95, since you are using a K88, maybe try the 18x20 string pattern with 17G strings. K88 small head 16x19 will probably play closer to 18x20 in 95" head than the 16x18 in 95" head. This is a great all court, any kind of tennis racket - very good for serving, baseline play, and net play.

B. Pro Staff 95 with about 4-6 grams of lead tape around head and maybe a little on handle to counter balance. With lead, this racket could handle anything.

C. Vollk o10 325 or 295 with lead tape on head. The organix line of volkl is crisp but comfortable like the Wilson 6.1 line. Great solid feel.

D. new Wilson PS 97 - either the RF auto or the lighter 11.1 oz option with lead tape customization. Obviously, I have not hit these as they don't come out until October but spec wise they look like a good fit.

E. Wilson Blade 98 try 18x20 and 16x19. maybe add lead to handle for more HL as K88 is more HL.

I think these frames are all good for modern tennis but they retain the thin beam classic feel to a certain degree. Anyone coming from a heavy Wilson thin box beam might be able to transition into these frames with a little work. I think with the right SW, balance and static weight; you can get a very controllable and powerful frame in the 95-98 range.

All frames mentioned above are great choices. I would also add the Völkl C10 Pro to the list.

This is one the classics that they release every couple of years without changing the composition of the frame but only another paintjob.

For instance the 2008, 2010 and 2012 versions are identical. So you don't have to worry about searching and testing other frames anymore if you like this one! ;-)
 
No tournaments nearby and you're in California? Ok what about clubs? Join a club and try-out for the team, at least get on the practice squad for some competitive play.

Clubs are way too expensive, and I believe I did mention trying out for my college team. I'm located in Pomona, which has a very very very low tennis community.
 
The Yonex VCore Tour 97 (330g) may be the perfect stick for you based on what you are looking for. Heavy, solid, good feel, but a large and forgiving (thanks to the isometric head shape) 97 square inch head.

+1, this is what came to mind when reading OP's post
 
I would only consider the X pro feel 95 if you have tons of power with the KPS 88 and feel comfortable with generating allyour own pace. To give you an idea my forehand was patterned after Soderlings (when I came back to the game I had to change the grip) and my backhand is a lot like Wawrinka's but was patterned after Edberg and Lew Hoad originally. I take huge cuts at the ball because Im most consistent with a really long stroke.

A Volkl 95 or the Dunlop Bio 200 tour (very pro staff-ish) are good options. I find anything over 95 inches leaves me feeling imprecise at the net compared to the mids I grew up with but gowith what works for you. My strokes arent traditional ones.
 
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I would only consider the X pro feel 95 if you have tons of power with the KPS 88 and feel comfortable with generating allyour own pace. To give you an idea my forehand was patterned after Soderlings (when I came back to the game I had to change the grip) and my backhand is a lot like Wawrinka's but was patterned after Edberg and Lew Hoad originally. I take huge cuts at the ball because Im most consistent with a really long stroke.

A Volkl 95 or the Dunlop Bio 200 tour (very pro staff-ish) are good options. I find anything over 95 inches leaves me feeling imprecise at the net compared to the mids I grew up with but gowith what works for you. My strokes arent traditional ones.

I too have a long stroke, but have been working in it to make it a bit shorter. My backhand is closer to Federer's than it is to Wawrinka's, but I have tried to imitate Wawrinka's glack hand grip. My shots tend to have much more topspin if I do imitate it, but they also tend to hit net sometimes because I'm not used to getting under the ball (more than I usually do) to pull off the shot.

I could generate my own pace, but don't want to rely solely on my body to do so. The K88's power helps me not do so like I like, if strung correctly
 
I too have a long stroke, but have been working in it to make it a bit shorter. My backhand is closer to Federer's than it is to Wawrinka's, but I have tried to imitate Wawrinka's glack hand grip. My shots tend to have much more topspin if I do imitate it, but they also tend to hit net sometimes because I'm not used to getting under the ball (more than I usually do) to pull off the shot.

I could generate my own pace, but don't want to rely solely on my body to do so. The K88's power helps me not do so like I like, if strung correctly

Yeah that backhand is hit farther in front and really requires you to use your legs to get low. Honestly I cant tell if it would work for you but seriously consider trying a Dunlop Bio 200 tour... a lot like a 95 inch version of a classicprostaff. Another stick that you could consider is a Angell TC 95.

Trickis you definitely need to demo.... Ivefoundthat Fischer racquets (pacific) are very different from any other stick... A lot like classic Porsche 911 cars in a many ways... super solid andsuper comfy but ultimately performance/precision oriented... good to rev em up (higher swing speeds) and use them in stick mode rather than auto transmission mode. IE they demand a lot of attention to get the most out of them (which is good for me because I never ever win unless Im sharp and on but I often start slow... so its best that I gear up fast anddont muddle through the first few games).
 
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Yeah that backhand is hit farther in front and really requires you to use your legs to get low. Honestly I cant tell if it would work for you but seriously consider trying a Dunlop Bio 200 tour... a lot like a 95 inch version of a classicprostaff. Another stick that you could consider is a Angell TC 95.

Trickis you definitely need to demo.... Ivefoundthat Fischer racquets (pacific) are very different from any other stick... A lot like classic Porsche 911 cars in a many ways... super solid andsuper comfy but ultimately performance/precision oriented... good to rev em up (higher swing speeds) and use them in stick mode rather than auto transmission mode. IE they demand a lot of attention to get the most out of them (which is good for me because I never ever win unless Im sharp and on but I often start slow... so its best that I gear up fast anddont muddle through the first few games).

Yeah, ever since I started playing with the college folks last year, I have been learning to pick my shots. I have also learned to lower my body more in order to get more proficient shots. Although the consistency of my game isn't so great, it has improved a lot using my k88.

I also take a while to warm up.
 
Good suggestion. The Dunlop Aerogel 4D 200 Tour has a hefty swingweight of 352. Or try and find the Dunlop Biomimetic 200 Tour which has a swingweight of 345. Both are discontinued but you may be able to still find them. And both have 95 sq. in. heads.

http://www.racquetfinder.com/?name=...ains=&crosses=&current=N&max_price=&x=53&y=18

I think a nearby racquet shop still has a few biometric 200s and such for sale. I was curious to trying them. I'm not sure if I'm thinking of the correct racquet, but I recall the shop have boxed beamed dunlops.
 
I think you should try the 6.1 95 again. They're on the stiff side but nothing like a PD. The 2012 BLX is more comfortable than the ncode (I've played with both - 16x18).
 
I think you should try the 6.1 95 again. They're on the stiff side but nothing like a PD. The 2012 BLX is more comfortable than the ncode (I've played with both - 16x18).

I would like to try them, but only the 2012 iteration. I don't recall if the 95 has a boxed or round beam.

I'm also interested in pacifics x feel pro 95, but am awaiting the newer versions to come out. Does anyone know how the two frames differ?
 
I would like to try them, but only the 2012 iteration. I don't recall if the 95 has a boxed or round beam.

I'm also interested in pacifics x feel pro 95, but am awaiting the newer versions to come out. Does anyone know how the two frames differ?

The 6.1 has a round beam.
 
I think a nearby racquet shop still has a few biometric 200s and such for sale. I was curious to trying them. I'm not sure if I'm thinking of the correct racquet, but I recall the shop have boxed beamed dunlops.
There are several different Biomimetic 200s. The heaviest one is the Bio 200 Tour. It's the one with the chrome finish and the 16x18 string pattern. The standard Bio 200 is lighter and has a 18x20 pattern.
 
Here's my options in no particular order:

A. BLX 6.1 95, since you are using a K88, maybe try the 18x20 string pattern with 17G strings. K88 small head 16x19 will probably play closer to 18x20 in 95" head than the 16x18 in 95" head. This is a great all court, any kind of tennis racket - very good for serving, baseline play, and net play.

B. Pro Staff 95 with about 4-6 grams of lead tape around head and maybe a little on handle to counter balance. With lead, this racket could handle anything.

C. Vollk o10 325 or 295 with lead tape on head. The organix line of volkl is crisp but comfortable like the Wilson 6.1 line. Great solid feel.

D. new Wilson PS 97 - either the RF auto or the lighter 11.1 oz option with lead tape customization. Obviously, I have not hit these as they don't come out until October but spec wise they look like a good fit.

E. Wilson Blade 98 try 18x20 and 16x19. maybe add lead to handle for more HL as K88 is more HL.

I think these frames are all good for modern tennis but they retain the thin beam classic feel to a certain degree. Anyone coming from a heavy Wilson thin box beam might be able to transition into these frames with a little work. I think with the right SW, balance and static weight; you can get a very controllable and powerful frame in the 95-98 range.

Thank you for this information. It really helps, but I must demo these racquets without tape to determine if they are good. I have never really considered playing with a 95 because I was more focused on 90s.
 
I went from the KPS88 to the YT Prestige MPs with 10 grams from 10-2 and 9 grams at 3/9. It hits just like a KPS88 except it was heavier and had more power. The feel stiff, crisp feel was very close to the KPS88. I still have the frames in my closet (they're 27.75 inch XL frames) and am using the IG Prestige MP which is a lot more muted (doesn't feel like the KPS88).

You can probably take an MP with a similar stiffness and modify it to whatever specs you want including the KPS88.

There are KPS88s on the used market and I expect that to be true for several years. It may be easier to just pick up a few to last you so that you have more time to think about a transition.

Do you look on the for sale forum here?
 
I went from the KPS88 to the YT Prestige MPs with 10 grams from 10-2 and 9 grams at 3/9. It hits just like a KPS88 except it was heavier and had more power. The feel stiff, crisp feel was very close to the KPS88. I still have the frames in my closet (they're 27.75 inch XL frames) and am using the IG Prestige MP which is a lot more muted (doesn't feel like the KPS88).

You can probably take an MP with a similar stiffness and modify it to whatever specs you want including the KPS88.

There are KPS88s on the used market and I expect that to be true for several years. It may be easier to just pick up a few to last you so that you have more time to think about a transition.

Do you look on the for sale forum here?

Yes sir, I do indeed look at the for sale forum. It is how I landed on three new and legit K88's :)

I forget the stiffness of the racquet itself.

And I also forget to mention that I would only add tape to a racquet under the grip or under the grommet.

It would be nice if I found a racquet that had the same plush and solid feel of the k88 that is also stock.
 
The Volkl C10 is a frame with a plush, solid feel that also behaves more like a 95" racquet than a 98", at least for me. I've had a couple other 98's through recent history, including a couple of Yonex models and the newer Volkl O10 325g.

The C10 has a somewhat elongated oval that isn't as wide (in the 3 to 9 o'clock direction) as some others with the same hoop size. When I play my O10, I'm aware that the hoop is more round and that makes for a seemingly bigger head. It's even more the case for me when playing a 98" Yonex - those feel borderline oversize for me. The C10's more narrow profile gives it more of a 95" frame's personality for me. It's soft, but solid without being cumbersome.
 
I used to use the KPS88 and now use the XFeel Pro 95. Based on everything I have read here there is indeed a frame for you out there. The Yonex VCore Tour 89. I posted a review in the customer feedback section of the VCT89 on TW that compares it to the KPS 88 which was my prior frame at the time.
 
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Ninety-eight square inch racquets seem like they would be the perfect sized racquets for me. I do not like one-hundred square inch racquets, or above, because they lack feel, control, and are too erratic to play with overall. I currently play with three Wilson K Pro Staff 88's, and have previously played with Blade 93's, Wilson Six One Tour BLX's, and an APDGT prior to switching down head sizes. I traded out my Blade 93's their string pattern was too dense for my taste, and my Tour 90's because I felt like experimenting with racquets; plus their condition were not so great anymore after playing the rest of High School tennis with them.

I am an 18 year-old self-taught tennis player via YouTube, who has played for close to four years, and I am self evaluating myself to be around to be a 3.5 or 4.0. I don't play any tournaments because there are none around my area. Any whom, I have been improving a lot ever since I switched to my K88's. My body doesn't feel fatigue from using the racquet like so many players on this forum had mentioned.

I had previously only touched my tennis racquet only to rally with people. The only times I would play sets were only in high-school, but I started playing more recently because I am going to try-out for my college's tennis team. The reason for this thread is because I feel like my K88's would be too unforgiving in college tennis, and that the coach might be against me using a racquet with an 88 square inch head size. I have previously mentioned why I don't like 100 square inch+ racquets, but not why I don't like 98 square inch racquets.

I have only tried a few 98 square inch racquets: Yonex's EZONE Xi, EZONE Ai,VCORE Xi 98, and Wilson's Blade 98 (Both 18x20 and 16x19 versions). (Edit: I had an old Head Flexpoint Prestige MP XL, but it felt like it didn't have enough plow through or feel; so I eventually sold it.)

All Yonex racquets I tried felt too stiff, and didn't feel flush like a Yonex EZONE Ai 100 that had inspired me to demo them in the first place. Both Blade 98's felt too light and not solid enough to plow through the ball. I thought that adding lead tape in the handle to make it a bit more head-light would solve the issue, but the racquet felt overall unsatisfactory, and not comparable to my K88's.

I have not tried any racquets other than an old Wilson ncode 95, that are 95 square inches.

I am interested in obtaining a stick that has the heftiness close to my K88's, but with a larger head size. Another reason for my search is because the availability of a K88 are very slim, and I'd like to have a racquet whereas I could replace the bumper and grommets. What would you guys suggest would be a good racquet to try out?




I might just be overly picky...:shock:


Shoot me an e mail.... I can help!!! BHBH
 
It would be nice if I found a racquet that had the same plush and solid feel of the k88 that is also stock.
To be frank, I don't think such a racquet currently exists. The KPS88 is about as solid feeling as it gets. Everything else is gong to feel pale in comparison, at least stock.
 
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