I Compared power bridge technology , With and with out it, Now I need help.

[keepurpowderdry]

I went on tennis warehouse power compare page and matched up the Volkl

power bridge 10 mid to the Volkl DNX 10 mid. I found that their is only a .3

difference above the yoke area. and the specs of these two racquets look very much the same.

So I see tenniswarehouse play testers giving the Power bridge 10 very

high rating. But if the only difference is the power bridge technology and it

only makes a .3 difference !! Should I go for the Volkl DNX 10 mid for $109.95?

http://twu.tennis-warehouse.com/cgi-bin/storepower2.cgi?racquetA=VPB10M|93|Volkl|Power:Bridge:10:Mid|RCVOLKL|x&racquetB=DNX10M|93|Volkl|DNX:10:Mid|RCVOLKL|x&racquetC=none&racquetD=none

 

[sargeinaz]

The rackets really do play differently. You'll have to demo to see for yourself which you prefer. Also, search and youll find a bunch of stuff on the frames.

 

[fuzz nation]

Also there's really no way to interpret how those numbers will work for you in terms of response and the oh-so-subjective issue of... wait for it... that's right - feel.

Power Ratings? Swing weights? Who cares!

Demo the racquets if you can. If you can't and they look really interesting to you (and you can afford the $110), there's the "buy it to try it" option with that DNX 10 mid. Not sure if you've hashed over the other frames you've used in recent history, but there have certainly been a few discussions flying around that compare the DNX 10 mid and the PB 10 mid.

 

[keepurpowderdry]

Also there's really no way to interpret how those numbers will work for you in terms of response and the oh-so-subjective issue of... wait for it... that's right - feel.

Power Ratings? Swing weights? Who cares!

Demo the racquets if you can. If you can't and they look really interesting to you (and you can afford the $110), there's the "buy it to try it" option with that DNX 10 mid. Not sure if you've hashed over the other frames you've used in recent history, but there have certainly been a few discussions flying around that compare the DNX 10 mid and the PB 10 mid.

well I did the buy it and try it with the the yonex 001 mid . I absolutley love this stiff racquet !!! Only thing is i play allot more doubles now and the wieght is only heavey for me when I get chest level balls coming down because I need to keep the racquet fairly high on the take back and then i have to put some top spin because the ball is all ready on its way down ! So that is where it gets heavy for me. On any other shot I don't feel I have to swing the hell out of it everytime (I string it at 56 54) It handles pace from big hitters but I rarely face big hitters but I do face heavy hitters. I tried the babolate pure drive+ at 10.6 (i think last years model) last week and I instantly was taking huge swings and ripping chest level balls but !!! my opponent kept easily getting it back and with my yonex they never get it back that easily? I saw that dunlop has some good medium weight racquets that fit doubles well but everyone has a dunlop in my group lol... I am stupid wierd when it comes to buying something someone all ready has ... Well i am just strong enough to barely handle 12.0 ounces in long matches and i know now that a 10.7 ounce racquet I can swing anything high with ease but I don't thing its a big hit it just feels that way because I swing fast ??? So can you give me any thoughts on anything I just said lol.. I don't need a recomendation of a certain racquet just some guidance on what 4 racquets i should demo , Its important cause i am probably only going to demo 4 racquets and thats it.. Thanks for your time Fuzz

 

[keepurpowderdry]

The rackets really do play differently. You'll have to demo to see for yourself which you prefer. Also, search and youll find a bunch of stuff on the frames.[/QUOTE
thanks man for the response , what differences did you find ?

 

[0d1n]

Haven't tried the Powerbridge, but I can tell you that the DNX will NOT be more maneuverable than the RDS 001 Mid...in fact it was more difficult to swing in my experience.
It IS a great racquet though...serves big, good feel, good stability, good spin...good everything...if you can swing it.

 

[keepurpowderdry]

Haven't tried the Powerbridge, but I can tell you that the DNX will NOT be more maneuverable than the RDS 001 Mid...in fact it was more difficult to swing in my experience.
It IS a great racquet though...serves big, good feel, good stability, good spin...good everything...if you can swing it.

Thanks for telling me your expirience !! You know I was just in the back yard and I was swinging my yonex and then swinging the babolat (10.7) and I realized that when i swing my forehand (I am right handed) if I put my right foot out to the right and bend my knees (get body low) not overly low but kim clijsters low and swing the wieght of my yonex and the wieght of the babolat is un noticable !!! Then I did it with my backhand (I put my left foot out "Open stance" and bent knees pushed my wieght forward and transferred wieght to front foot and i did not feel the wieght difference either !! But when I see pros swing on their 1 handed back hand like mine I never see them stick out their left foot (open stance) allways see them with back foot behind body and front foot is towards the left . I hope you can understand my weak way of describing things. If you can understand what I am trying to say please give me some thoughts .

 

[fuzz nation]

I'd encourage you to work on a one-handed backhand with a stance that's at least neutral, not open, if you want to gain a better mechanical advantage for that stroke. Hitting a 1hbh with an open stance leaves you in a relatively weak set-up. If you close up your stance and also start your stroke just a little earlier and keep your contact point out ahead of you, you'll be able to work the ball quite well with that stroke.

One thing that occurred to me when I demo'ed the DNX 10 mid a couple years ago was that it had nice heft (I tend toward 12.5-13 oz. frames), but it didn't have enough of the head-light balance that I prefer. I certainly remember it feeling a little slow for me and my sample racquet was probably only 4-5 points HL. I've always preferred a balance of up around 9-10 points HL.

 

[keepurpowderdry]

I'd encourage you to work on a one-handed backhand with a stance that's at least neutral, not open, if you want to gain a better mechanical advantage for that stroke. Hitting a 1hbh with an open stance leaves you in a relatively weak set-up. If you close up your stance and also start your stroke just a little earlier and keep your contact point out ahead of you, you'll be able to work the ball quite well with that stroke.

One thing that occurred to me when I demo'ed the DNX 10 mid a couple years ago was that it had nice heft (I tend toward 12.5-13 oz. frames), but it didn't have enough of the head-light balance that I prefer. I certainly remember it feeling a little slow for me and my sample racquet was probably only 4-5 points HL. I've always preferred a balance of up around 9-10 points HL.

like my yonex fuzz .. thanks fuzz ! I hit the 1 handed backhand closed stance very well when I have time to set up and it has to be top spin . I haven't learned to hit flat with the one hand backhand . Is that typical , is it harder to hit flat ? I try and it goes way out lol... Fuzz , I played back in my teens with the black max and then stopped playing tennis then I just started again and started playing with the yonex and I heard that the black max was stiff to but I remember along time ago hitting with this coaches racquet and he said it was flexible and it really felt comfortable but that was the only time i hit with it. I can't wait to try a flexible racquet. But why is everyone making stiff racquets. is their some kinda of an advantage that a stiffer frame would have against a flexier one given the two players playing eachother has sound technique ?

 

[morningglory75]

I'd encourage you to work on a one-handed backhand with a stance that's at least neutral, not open, if you want to gain a better mechanical advantage for that stroke. Hitting a 1hbh with an open stance leaves you in a relatively weak set-up.

You cannot be serious!

 

[morningglory75]

I went on tennis warehouse power compare page and matched up the Volkl

power bridge 10 mid to the Volkl DNX 10 mid. I found that their is only a .3

difference above the yoke area. and the specs of these two racquets look very much the same.

So I see tenniswarehouse play testers giving the Power bridge 10 very

high rating. But if the only difference is the power bridge technology and it

only makes a .3 difference !! Should I go for the Volkl DNX 10 mid for $109.95?

http://twu.tennis-warehouse.com/cgi-bin/storepower2.cgi?racquetA=VPB10M|93|Volkl|Power:Bridge:10:Mid|RCVOLKL|x&racquetB=DNX10M|93|Volkl|DNX:10:Mid|RCVOLKL|x&racquetC=none&racquetD=none

The PB 10 is a different animal, and a much more refined stick. It is torsionally more stable, far less harsh, has a longer dwell time, and swings much lighter, even though it statically feels just as heavy. It plays more like the T10 VE, but with the advantage of the DNX.

 

[tailofdog]

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well I did the buy it and try it with the the yonex 001 mid . I absolutley love this stiff racquet !!! Only thing is i play allot more doubles now and the wieght is only heavey for me when I get chest level balls coming down because I need to keep the racquet fairly high on the take back and then i have to put some top spin because the ball is all ready on its way down ! So that is where it gets heavy for me. On any other shot I don't feel I have to swing the hell out of it everytime (I string it at 56 54) It handles pace from big hitters but I rarely face big hitters but I do face heavy hitters. I tried the babolate pure drive+ at 10.6 (i think last years model) last week and I instantly was taking huge swings and ripping chest level balls but !!! my opponent kept easily getting it back and with my yonex they never get it back that easily? I saw that dunlop has some good medium weight racquets that fit doubles well but everyone has a dunlop in my group lol... I am stupid wierd when it comes to buying something someone all ready has ... Well i am just strong enough to barely handle 12.0 ounces in long matches and i know now that a 10.7 ounce racquet I can swing anything high with ease but I don't thing its a big hit it just feels that way because I swing fast ??? So can you give me any thoughts on anything I just said lol.. I don't need a recomendation of a certain racquet just some guidance on what 4 racquets i should demo , Its important cause i am probably only going to demo 4 racquets and thats it.. Thanks for your time Fuzz

The key is to swing the 12oz racquet every day in practice. I use a rebound net and a foam ball.
You will soon find 12oz is really pretty light and ,there is no substitue for weight if, you want a heavy ball.
I use a 12.3oz racquet and, i will be 62 in 2 weeks.

 

[backhand]

You cannot be serious!

I think he's quite serious; my various instructors have said much the same thing. All an open stroke accomplishes is covering up for your late footwork, and it's significantly less efficient because as you open up you lose the big muscles of the back, as well as a big backswing arc. So you're pushing the ball more, mostly just with your deltoids.

 

[morningglory75]

I think he's quite serious; my various instructors have said much the same thing. All an open stroke accomplishes is covering up for your late footwork, and it's significantly less efficient because as you open up you lose the big muscles of the back, as well as a big backswing arc. So you're pushing the ball more, mostly just with your deltoids.

WOW...if tennis pros could be sued for malpractice, very few would be making a living. If you play above 5.0, dump your teaching pro and find a coach. There is a huge difference between the two.

If you watch pro tennis in slow-mo, you will see that there are quite a few pros who hit open stance backhands under many circumstances, including Federer, as well as some who were known for their backhand returns, such as Teltcher, Guga, Rafter, Becker, etc.

 

[backhand]

WOW...if tennis pros could be sued for malpractice, very few would be making a living. If you play above 5.0, dump your teaching pro and find a coach. There is a huge difference between the two.

If you watch pro tennis in slow-mo, you will see that there are quite a few pros who hit open stance backhands under many circumstances, including Federer, as well as some who were known for their backhand returns, such as Teltcher, Guga, Rafter, Becker, etc.

Well, a pro can do all kinds of amazing things under pressure. And I'm sure you're a better player than I am, so perhaps above a certain level, players can hit sweet shots with a broom handle. Arthur Ashe used to.

But on the other hand, I used to teach anatomy. So I'll wait a while to fire my instructors, because they seem to understand biomechanics better than you do...

 

[TourTenor]

I have played both models as my main squeeze ...
The PB is easier to maneuver.
Both hit a solid ball but the PB pockets the ball more
The DNX has slightly more power but the PB makes up for that as you can get more racquet head speed with it.
The PB plays under its reported SW and the DNX doesn't
I would tend to tire after 2 hours with the DNX and not so with the PB
The DNX has a slight collared feel to the head (probably the DNX placement)
By contrast, the PB is easier to put spin on it (see first three comments)
Both are nice in the sweetzone but the PB is a tad more forgiving if you miss the sz.

 

[keepurpowderdry]

The key is to swing the 12oz racquet every day in practice. I use a rebound net and a foam ball.
You will soon find 12oz is really pretty light and ,there is no substitue for weight if, you want a heavy ball.
I use a 12.3oz racquet and, i will be 62 in 2 weeks.

thats awesome ! Thanks for giving me some real insight.

 

[keepurpowderdry]

I have played both models as my main squeeze ...
The PB is easier to maneuver.
Both hit a solid ball but the PB pockets the ball more
The DNX has slightly more power but the PB makes up for that as you can get more racquet head speed with it.
The PB plays under its reported SW and the DNX doesn't
I would tend to tire after 2 hours with the DNX and not so with the PB
The DNX has a slight collared feel to the head (probably the DNX placement)
By contrast, the PB is easier to put spin on it (see first three comments)
Both are nice in the sweetzone but the PB is a tad more forgiving if you miss the sz.

thanks so much. The PB sounds nice because you and others say "The PB plays under its reported SW " . I have my yonex 001 mid and I tire to after about 3 hours. Plus my yonex is really stiff and I remember using a racquet when I was young and how it use to pocket the ball !! I remember liking that allot ... Can't wait to buy it. Only thing is I know my 001 mid is incredible and i could get 2 of them and some string for the price of the PB .. But I am also changing back to a 2 handed backhand and when i use a 2 handed back hand it feels really wierd with my 90 sq inch 001 mid ...

 

[TourTenor]

thanks so much. The PB sounds nice because you and others say "The PB plays under its reported SW " . I have my yonex 001 mid and I tire to after about 3 hours. Plus my yonex is really stiff and I remember using a racquet when I was young and how it use to pocket the ball !! I remember liking that allot ... Can't wait to buy it. Only thing is I know my 001 mid is incredible and i could get 2 of them and some string for the price of the PB .. But I am also changing back to a 2 handed backhand and when i use a 2 handed back hand it feels really wierd with my 90 sq inch 001 mid ...

I haven't noticed anyone who is playing the pb mid specifically state that they have a 2-handed backhand. It seems like most are one-handers but I may be wrong. My impression is that this stick rewards a full, aggressive swing. One thing for sure ... demo these sticks first, if you can. Try the TW demo program if you can't find them locally.

 

[keepurpowderdry]

I haven't noticed anyone who is playing the pb mid specifically state that they have a 2-handed backhand. It seems like most are one-handers but I may be wrong. My impression is that this stick rewards a full, aggressive swing. One thing for sure ... demo these sticks first, if you can. Try the TW demo program if you can't find them locally.

I think danny (playtester from tw) said he used it in doubles . I think he has a 2 hander ... Thanks I have a friend that is ordering the demo for me...

 

[morningglory75]

But on the other hand, I used to teach anatomy. So I'll wait a while to fire my instructors, because they seem to understand biomechanics better than you do...

Ah....an amusing anecdote....

 

[backhand]

Ah....an amusing anecdote....

I know you're attempting to be clever here, but an anecdote is a brief story about an event, usually amusing or illustrative. I made a factual statement, about my background, followed by another factual statement, as a reply to an earlier attempt of yours to be clever.

If you're concerned about my background, just go do a search; I've been around here since 2004, and many of my posts relate to anatomy, biomechanics, or injuries such as TE.

If you're concerned about my instructors not being coaches, once you've graduated from high school, you'll figure it out...

 

[morningglory75]

I know you're attempting to be clever here, but an anecdote is a brief story about an event, usually amusing or illustrative. I made a factual statement, about my background, followed by another factual statement, as a reply to an earlier attempt of yours to be clever.

If you're concerned about my background, just go do a search; I've been around here since 2004, and many of my posts relate to anatomy, biomechanics, or injuries such as TE.

If you're concerned about my instructors not being coaches, once you've graduated from high school, you'll figure it out...

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