kraggy
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Just wanted to throw some facts out there and hopefully we can have a fact based discussion rather than a lot of subjectivity.
So how do you define a players prime?
I would define a players prime as the period in which he has fairly strong results and is not regularly upset by low ranked opponents. I don't think there should be a fixed 4-5 yr period that defines a prime since different players might have varying longevity.
A look at Fed since 2008:
Feds results at the Grand Slams : AO 08-SF, FO -F , Wimby-F, US open -Won, AO 09 - F, FO - Won
Fed's losses in 2008 - Murray, Roddick, Simon, Djokovic, Blake, Karlovic, Nadal, Stepanek, Fish,
Nadal's losses in 2008(his best year) - Murray, Roddick, Simon, Djokovic, ferrero, davydenko, Seppi, Tsonga
Did Fed do as well in 08 as he has done in years past. NO. Did he do badly?Far from it.
I think its disrespectful to the competition to say that unless Fed wins 3 slams a year like he did in 05 , 06 etc , he is not in his prime and hence any victory over him is primarily a result of his decline. Any top 50 player is capable of having a day or two where he plays out of his mind to beat a Federer or a Nadal. And people like Simon , Murray, Djoker, Roddick were not just top 50, they were top 10.
I think Fed is still very much in his prime especially since he has won 2 out of the last 3 slams. I do believe he might have had some mental blocks over the last few months but aside from those he seems to be very much in his prime.
Not at his peak, but still in his prime.
So how do you define a players prime?
I would define a players prime as the period in which he has fairly strong results and is not regularly upset by low ranked opponents. I don't think there should be a fixed 4-5 yr period that defines a prime since different players might have varying longevity.
A look at Fed since 2008:
Feds results at the Grand Slams : AO 08-SF, FO -F , Wimby-F, US open -Won, AO 09 - F, FO - Won
Fed's losses in 2008 - Murray, Roddick, Simon, Djokovic, Blake, Karlovic, Nadal, Stepanek, Fish,
Nadal's losses in 2008(his best year) - Murray, Roddick, Simon, Djokovic, ferrero, davydenko, Seppi, Tsonga
Did Fed do as well in 08 as he has done in years past. NO. Did he do badly?Far from it.
I think its disrespectful to the competition to say that unless Fed wins 3 slams a year like he did in 05 , 06 etc , he is not in his prime and hence any victory over him is primarily a result of his decline. Any top 50 player is capable of having a day or two where he plays out of his mind to beat a Federer or a Nadal. And people like Simon , Murray, Djoker, Roddick were not just top 50, they were top 10.
I think Fed is still very much in his prime especially since he has won 2 out of the last 3 slams. I do believe he might have had some mental blocks over the last few months but aside from those he seems to be very much in his prime.
Not at his peak, but still in his prime.
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