I don't know why, but I feel Stefanos Tsistipas will never win a grandslam title.

DSH

Legend
If he leaves aside what is related to social media, to his parental conflicts, the Greek has a potential to be one of the best tennis players of this decade, but if his head is clouded with fame, ego and "existential doubts", I don't predict a great future for him, which would be a waste of a player.
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Lleytonstation

G.O.A.T.
He will eventually do well. Not much competition for him 5 years from now.

He won't win many but a few for sure. He is better than Zverev and younger so he will sneak a few.
 

Devtennis01

Professional
I would think he will. He already won WTF. Doesn't mean he will a slam but there will come a time when he's playing in slams with no big 3. Who is he going to be scared of? Thiem? Zverev? Medvedev? None of them will be dominating. Kid's 22 and ranked 6 in the world. He'll be getting four or five slams. We're going to see in three or four years an era where slams will be divided much like they were in the Lendl/Becker/Edberg/Courier years. Before Sampras broke out. The leader will be someone with McEnroe, Lendl like numbers, 7 or 8 slams at most. I doubt even that many. Probably most will be someone like Sinner/FAA with 6. Tsitispas will have 4, 5.
 

tonylg

Hall of Fame
Exactly, I doubt you even know the difference between attacking and defensive tennis. Medvedev is purely defensive. Thiem almost exclusively defensive, due to mindset. Zverev has moments that are less defensive, but then the demons take over. Tsitsipas has technical flaws, but he plays the good tennis. If courts weren't all so slow, we would be wiping the floor with those other 3.
 

2ndServe

Hall of Fame
I think he can hit forehand winners better than all 3 of those guys. Based on that fact, I think he's gonna get there. I need to see someone who can slap winners at the top.
does his serve break down it looks weird to me kind if hitchy but not as bad as grigor serve
 
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FRV3

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does his serve break down it looks weird to me kind if hitchy but not as bad as grigor serve
Idk tbh. I noticed when he gets into trophy position he stops and brings his hand closer to his head a little. I think he gets in a better trophy position this way. Tried it myself and it added a few mph to my serve.
 

Meles

Bionic Poster
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no way his groundstrokes are better than thiems, bh or fh, or even serve tbh
I’ve heard a lot of criticism about his strokes on here but I’ve always liked his forehand and his backhand for that matter (top cross amazing on clay.) What makes his forehand great is that he gets a lot of RPMs on it. This allows him to hit extreme cross court angles with ease and he has great Precision.

Tsitsipas has won 72% of his serve points this year. That’s pretty much off the charts so I think he’ll be fine. return is his issue but literally he just turned 22 so he could have a mad weed type jump in return in the next two years.o_O If he gets up to return game somewhere between Federer and the abysmal Roddick, he’ll win slams. If he gets close to Fed will a ton of slams.;)
 

WhiskeyEE

G.O.A.T.
He could very well be the best of the next gen despite his deficiencies. Good on all surfaces too. Unlike Medvedev and Thiem.
 
Not buying it. Tsitsipas has a more complete, dangerous all-court game than any of the other 3. He can actually hold his own at net, unlike the majority of this generation. His Achilles heel is the return of serve, but I can definitely see him improving it over time.

Dont doubt the Pas. He's a Spartan on the court and an Athenian off of it. He's destined for great things!
 

tonylg

Hall of Fame
Idk tbh. I noticed when he gets into trophy position he stops and brings his hand closer to his head a little. I think he gets in a better trophy position this way. Tried it myself and it added a few mph to my serve.
His brother has the same hitch, I'd say their father taught them that way.

One of my hitting partners has recently introduced something similar with good success. He has a huge serve, but can struggle with rhythm. It has helped quite a lot.
 

ibbi

Legend
Well, good thing he's younger than all of those guys you mention, and light years ahead of where certainly Thiem was at his age.
 

junior74

G.O.A.T.
I'd rather have Tsitsipas in slam finals who can hit FH winners and good second serves than Zverev.
Unless the offensive tennis is of very high quality, defence wins - on all levels. "Make him play that extra ball" is the parole, kids are told to "keep the ball in play". The approach shot is dead and buried. As a trainer I see it all the time; the best players often lose because courts are tough to hit through and they get frustrated when the opponent floats back all your attempts at getting some pace into the rallies. Some of these talented players leave tennis, because they are naturally drawn to hitting winners, and when they realise defence wins, they get bored.
 

mike danny

Bionic Poster
Unless the offensive tennis is of very high quality, defence wins - on all levels. "Make him play that extra ball" is the parole, kids are told to "keep the ball in play". The approach shot is dead and buried. As a trainer I see it all the time; the best players often lose because courts are tough to hit through and they get frustrated when the opponent floats back all your attempts at getting some pace into the rallies. Some of these talented players leave tennis, because they are naturally drawn to hitting winners, and when they realise defence wins, they get bored.
I understand that, but winners can still be hit as Thiem has proven. And the surfaces being slow is still no excuse for that atrocious second serve of Zverev's.
 

blablavla

Legend
I would think he will. He already won WTF. Doesn't mean he will a slam but there will come a time when he's playing in slams with no big 3. Who is he going to be scared of? Thiem? Zverev? Medvedev? None of them will be dominating. Kid's 22 and ranked 6 in the world. He'll be getting four or five slams. We're going to see in three or four years an era where slams will be divided much like they were in the Lendl/Becker/Edberg/Courier years. Before Sampras broke out. The leader will be someone with McEnroe, Lendl like numbers, 7 or 8 slams at most. I doubt even that many. Probably most will be someone like Sinner/FAA with 6. Tsitispas will have 4, 5.
how about Sinner for example?
or Medvedev?
 

blablavla

Legend
I’ve heard a lot of criticism about his strokes on here but I’ve always liked his forehand and his backhand for that matter (top cross amazing on clay.) What makes his forehand great is that he gets a lot of RPMs on it. This allows him to hit extreme cross court angles with ease and he has great Precision.

Tsitsipas has won 72% of his serve points this year. That’s pretty much off the charts so I think he’ll be fine. return is his issue but literally he just turned 22 so he could have a mad weed type jump in return in the next two years.o_O If he gets up to return game somewhere between Federer and the abysmal Roddick, he’ll win slams. If he gets close to Fed will a ton of slams.;)
no, according to @jm1980 Stefanos BH is weaker than average...
 
Yeah it doesn’t look good for him currently. He’s too inconsistent and his FH was terrible today.
However, he’s still very young and his time on his side. He needs to mature more though as he gets frustrated to easily and isn’t good under pressure.
 

Devtennis01

Professional
how about Sinner for example?
or Medvedev?
Sinner is a great prospect, isn't he? Not just because of his skills but also because of his timing. He's, what, 18? By the time Big 3 are done, he'll be 23. He could easily amass 7 or 8 slams I think and be the leader of his era.
Medvedev, like Tsitsipas, will get 4 or 5 I think. I don't think much more because they'll be later on in their career. I think the trend is going to be to speed up courts, too, and help the younger ones. NextGen (Thiem is not NextGen) have been a bit of a disappointment imo, like lost gen before them. Look at how Medvedev went down in the USO SF. Look at Tsitsipas. Zverev is not proving to be that popular.
I think once Big 3 are done, ATP is going to want to sweep in the really young guys with faster courts and get them amassing slams and then slow them down again once they have their brands and rivalries. Who knows, Tsisty, Meddy and Zverev might find themselves left out in the cold.
 

mental midget

Hall of Fame
He could very well be the best of the next gen despite his deficiencies. Good on all surfaces too. Unlike Medvedev and Thiem.
that’s my take. he’s all around good and has weapons, and clearly...believes in himself. figure odds are he comes through in a couple over next few years.
 

USO

Professional
Unless he changes his hothead mentality, I do not see him reaching the heights of Medvedev, Zverev, and especially Thiem.
He might end up like Dimitrov who is very talented but never won a slam, so who knows you may be right...
 
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