Djokovic_is_the_best#1
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Djokovic played bad. He made about 60 errors. Still it wouldn’t matter anyway as Rafa was awesome and his level way too good.
Of course Thiem was better last year, that is fair to say. Before that Novak carried elbow injury for 18 months, only after surgery he returned to his normal level.He didn’t make RG final in 3 last years so he is not that good on clay. And he hit many dtl backhands today so you argument is invalid. Go watch Novak in Ruud open!
Childish is ignoring someone’s success and advocating for your idol. If he was injured he could retire, otherwise he jus lost to a better player.Of course Thiem was better last year, that is fair to say. Before that Novak carried elbow injury for 18 months, only after surgery he returned to his normal level.
Please make some arguments with facts, not childish sentences.
Yes and they all have losing head to head vs Novak.Childish is ignoring someone’s success and advocating for your idol. If he was injured he could retire, otherwise he jus lost to a better player.
Not to mention he lost to Rafa here many times plus Federer, Wawrinka and Thiem twice. So I don’t know why Djoko fans were so optimistic
And so what? Nobody cares about minor tournaments where Novak improves his stats but fails where he should play best tennis.Yes and they all have losing head to head vs Novak.
Salty.And so what? Nobody cares about minor tournaments where Novak improves his stats but fails where he should play best tennis.
Im not being salty, just no 500 or even masters tournament will equal Slam, so I don’t think h2h is important hereSalty.
Novak will probably end his taly at 21,22 slams. We will see in 3 years how will have the most slams, WTF, masters and weeks at number one.Im not being salty, just no 500 or even masters tournament will equal Slam, so I don’t think h2h is important here
Rafa was in terrible form in 2015 all year long - the worst I've ever seen him play. Ultimately, Nadal is just better on clay, especially at RG. Same as how Djokovic is better at the AO.Djokovic looks resigned, completly different in comparison with 2015, it’s like he forgot it was possible to win against Nadal at RG, of course Nadal grab him by the throat dice the start, and played extremely well during two sets.
Yeah he looked lethargic from the get-go. Almost like the match was starting in a fourth set or something.Get real, Djokovic looked like a total Zombie from the very beginning, even before he got 'Nadalled'.
He was injured last year at the French when he lost to Thiem?Yes, healthy Djokovic has not lost a match since 2010.
You mean to say that his 17 GS wins were some minor tournaments? You do know that he only has 2 people ahead of him (2 GOATS at this moment). Let's be measured in what we say. We have seen so many threads in 2014 where folks famously called him 'majoring in minors' when he had like 6 slams to his credit. He clearly has turned it around to 17 slams going beyond pete and firmly placing himself in ATG bracketAnd so what? Nobody cares about minor tournaments where Novak improves his stats but fails where he should play best tennis.
He was injured last year at the French when he lost to Thiem?
The problem was his drop shot strategy he was practicing all week for Nadal didn't work.
I’m not sure if it is fair to say this, but it seems Djokovic exhibits a defeatist mentality at times. If circumstances are less than ideal for him, it seems like he gives up and you can see the lack of thinking, intensity on his part. I can give a few examples where I thought he exhibited such.
For example, at RG last year against Thiem, he disliked the wind and looked all out of sorts for the first set, kept complaining and never exhibited his focus. Only when there was the break and a calmer wind then he tried his best to get back into the match.
Against Nadal in Rome last year, he gave a 6-0 because of reasons where he was exhausted from the prior rounds. Those reasons are completely justified to me, but his facial expressions were like he gave up from the get go. The fact that he had energy to put up a fight in the second set enforced my belief that his rather poor mentality was playing a huge part in his poor performance and he actually had the capability to put up a better fight.
Yesterday, we have no idea what he was thinking but he looked like he was defeated at the start. Zero facial expressions of giving a fight, he was anyhow crushing groundstrokes without any safety margin which he usually does leading to a high UE count. If he had sorted out his mind I’m sure he could’ve put up a better fight. For all the straight sets domination I didn’t think Nadal’s level was that unplayable the way he was in RG17, 08 and final sets of 14.
We see Nadal and Federer complaining about conditions etc. as well but when playing they always give their best. I just can’t say the same for Djokovic.
yea but novak was injured today though.. he had that neck spasm and left arm pain that made him Not play his best.
That may have been the case, but I feel he lets such unfavourable circumstances play on his mind way too much. Like I said, I think if he feels he doesn’t have the perfect set up he sometimes doesn’t give his best, that unnecessarily disadvantages himself I feel. Because he has to fight both his mind and his body.
What ?? but i thought it was Unfavorable condition for Rafa ?? Slow heavy Balls, slow cold conditions,,, made even slower by closing the roof... all favoring Novak ??
Yes, healthy Djokovic has not lost a match since 2010.
What garbage is this? He didn't say or show anything.yea but novak was injured today though.. he had that neck spasm and left arm pain that made him Not play his best.
Glass half-full: it's the perfect time for it to happen. It's the one match on the calendar he's probably not going to win anyway. There is no loss in tennis with less shame than losing to Nadal in a RG final.Hope it doesn't bother you too much. Novak had an off day, it happens and it was unfortunate for him it had to happen in an RG final against Rafa who had clearly upped his level knowing he would have to in order to beat Novak.
he didn't want to say anything in respect for rafa. but his injury during Busta match never got much better and it was never 100 % for the finalWhat garbage is this? He didn't say or show anything.
Agreed. The drop shot strategy set up a very passive mindset for Novak. On the other hand, Rafa was out there to hunt for his 13 FO from the get go, he wasn’t fuccking around with mind games. You can feel the intensity was different between the two players from game 1.I thought Djoker was too reliant on the drop shot. This prevented him from getting into a rhythm with his ground game. Final GS match of the year and i was hoping to see a more competitive match.
This was the worst ever slam final performance for Djokovic. He was clearly physically hampered due to neck and shoulder issues since Busta match (which started during US Open series). Even if he didnt choke a straight set victory against Tsitsipas, he could not have done much due to physical issues but that match basically destroyed him. His serve was terrible and he tried to finish rallies quickly by attempting to hit winners from ridiculous positions rather than waiting for the right moment. It is really embarassing Nadal fans gloating about this victory.
Yup, when he made three back to back drop shots in the very first game, I thought this doesn't look good. Made more sense when Nadal owned him by and large in the rallies later. Novak was hoping to disrupt and win if at all and it quickly became clear that wouldn't work. It had shades of Nadal owning Fed at RG back in the day in terms of how Novak looked like he had no idea how to go about it.I thought Djoker was too reliant on the drop shot. This prevented him from getting into a rhythm with his ground game. Final GS match of the year and i was hoping to see a more competitive match.
It is really embarassing Nadal fans gloating about this victory.
It is really embarassing Nadal fans gloating about this victory.