i feel like andy murray was safety net for agianst novak djokovic in wimbledon

skypadq

Hall of Fame
i know andy murray and novak djokovic only met one time and andy only won once
but even at that point , i feel like andy murray was safety net for agianst novak djokovic in 2012 ~ 2016 wimbledon
look at 2012 wimbledon , what if roger federer choke agianst djokovic in wimbledon semi final and lost djokovic ?
still andy murray was wating for final
i remember andy won first set agianst roger and even had BP in second set in 4vs4

and 2016 wimbledon , what if djokovic didn 't lost agianst sam querry ?
still feel like andy murray would beaten novak djokovic in final
i always wish like andy beat novak djokovic in just once in AO final
 

SardinesForDinner

Professional
yes you are onto something if djokovic didn't lost ever agianst andy mury
olympics 2012 mury beat agianst fedr smokst him 3 sets , what if djokovic didn 't lost agianst mury in semi final?
we gotta think, no?
 
Proof that Tennis is a mental sport. Murray in my eyes is a different class of grass court player to Novak yet Novak has 5 Wimbledons to Andys 2.
Fed easily destroys Murray with exception to one gold medal match yet he’s only won Novak once out of 4 meetings there
 

Imperator

Hall of Fame
Proof that Tennis is a mental sport. Murray in my eyes is a different class of grass court player to Novak yet Novak has 5 Wimbledons to Andys 2.
Fed easily destroys Murray with exception to one gold medal match yet he’s only won Novak once out of 4 meetings there
Even Grassdal is way better than anything Murray showed in his career on grass so let's not even try to compare him to Djokovic.
 
Even Grassdal is way better than anything Murray showed in his career on grass so let's not even try to compare him to Djokovic.
Murray is a miles better grass court player than Nadal lol, as I’ve stated before, Novaks Wimbledon count is inflated because only an old Roger Federer stood in his way and he still almost lost 2 finals to him when Roger was playing no where near his best
 

NoleIsBoat

Hall of Fame
Murray is a miles better grass court player than Nadal lol, as I’ve stated before, Novaks Wimbledon count is inflated because only an old Roger Federer stood in his way and he still almost lost 2 finals to him when Roger was playing no where near his best
Roger hit 94 winners in the 2019 final. One of his best ever levels on Wimbledon grass o_O
 

Imperator

Hall of Fame
Murray is a miles better grass court player than Nadal lol, as I’ve stated before, Novaks Wimbledon count is inflated because only an old Roger Federer stood in his way and he still almost lost 2 finals to him when Roger was playing no where near his best
Lmao no he's not. More consistent ? Yes. Better ? Certainly not.
 

SamprasisGOAT

Professional
Peak levels on grass from big 3 and murray

1. Federer 2006 Quarter
2. Nadal 2008 final
3.Djokovic 2015
4. Murray 2013 final
 
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Imperator

Hall of Fame
Isn't "more consistent" just another way of saying better?
It depends. I can't consider him better on grass, considering Nadal is vastly superior when he plays well. And it's not like he played that well rarely. Babydal took Peak Federer to 5 sets, then he beat Prime Federer, then gave Djokovic a run for his money in 2018. Do you think Murray would stand a chance against 2008, 2010, 2011 or 2018 Nadal ? If not, you should think he's been better often enough to consider him a better grass player.
 

Mainad

Bionic Poster
It depends. I can't consider him better on grass, considering Nadal is vastly superior when he plays well. And it's not like he played that well rarely. Babydal took Peak Federer to 5 sets, then he beat Prime Federer, then gave Djokovic a run for his money in 2018. Do you think Murray would stand a chance against 2008, 2010, 2011 or 2018 Nadal ? If not, you should think he's been better often enough to consider him a better grass player.
I prefer to go by results.

Murray has 8 grasscourt titles to Nadal's 4 including the same number of Wimbledon titles and is second only to Federer among current players with grasscourt titles.
 

Imperator

Hall of Fame
I prefer to go by results.

Murray has 8 grasscourt titles to Nadal's 4 including the same number of Wimbledon titles and is second only to Federer among current players with grasscourt titles.
Because he has 4 more titles at minor events, it makes him better on grass ? What about the fact Nadal has the same number of Wimbledon titles but also has more Wimbledon finals ? And what about the competition they faced to win their titles ?
 

Mainad

Bionic Poster
Because he has 4 more titles at minor events, it makes him better on grass ? What about the fact Nadal has the same number of Wimbledon titles but also has more Wimbledon finals ? And what about the competition they faced to win their titles ?
Well, every other grasscourt title is minor compared to Wimbledon but Queen's (with Halle) is the most prestigious of them after Wimbledon and Murray holds the all-time record (5) for titles won there. As for finals, they are good but titles are what count. As for the competition, both Nadal and Murray beat the GrassGoat in a Bo5 set final on Centre Court at Wimbledon while Murray also beat a former champion to win his first Wimbledon title.
 

SonnyT

Hall of Fame
Djokovic lost to Federer the first time at Wimbledon, learned his lesson, and never lost to him again. Needless to say, Federer has been a much better grass player than Murray.

At '15 Wimbledon SF, Murray got 1 BP off Federer in the whole match, and lost in straights. Federer then lost in 4 to Djokovic.
 
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