Discussion in 'Pros' Racquets and Gear' started by Leelord337, Apr 13, 2008.
Is it a mid or a midplus?
its a 98in head size because i matched it up on my 98in head size racket
Code on the throat?
I'd also like to know the code on the throat (where the specs are on a retail racquet). It should be something like PT57a or PT57E or TGK 238.1. It would tell us whether it's really a microgel or a PT630 or iPrestige...
None of your photos showed this area of the racquet...
its actually handle heavy. when i balance the racket on my finger in the throat of the racket the handle points to an 8'oclock position so its definitely handle heavy
hi, it says PT57E. you really know your stuff! here's a pic and also pics of the grip under the overgrip and the tension sticker and the old butt cap.
Which is it?
Oops. it felt head heavy as i would have thought it as gulbis is a huge baseliner much like thomas berdych plays so u assumed it was head heavy as baseliners use head heavy rackets. but its definitely head light but there is nothing light about this racket. it feels like a baseball bat,
it is lead over the replacement grip?
Is it my eyes or is there strips of lead tape and a John Cauthern weight under the tourna grip????????
so what does pt57e mean? Which prestige is it? Is it still on the market?
I think it's just strips. what looks like a John Cauthern semi-elliptical plate is the end of the tourna grip I think.
hi, there isn't any lead in that picture of the replacement grip. its jsut a gray and white replacement grip with gray stripes. now under the replacement grip i don't know.
actually the pt57e means its an i Prestige. according to this link: http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=156584
Leelord, thank you for the answer about the balance point of the racquet!
now, can you tell me which is the replacement grip brand? is it an head replacement grip?
^^^its a gray and white replacement grip with vertical gray stripes (looks like lead tape in the pic but its not)
i don't know any replacement grip white with vertical gray stripes.
anyone know which grip is it?
Thanks Leelord! I'm not an expert by any means, but I think the above poster is correct that PT57e is an iPrestige...
TGK 238.1 is the code for a Microgel Prestige Midplus... so this is definitely a paintjob. Cool frame!
it's lead tape for sure.
yep...lead tape. you can see one of the lead tape on top of the black tape.
Does it seem to be the regular Head grip shape -- or more rounded like the Wilson -- since I know Head makes both style of pallets for their pros...
Leelord, what's the balance point of the racquet in terms of points?
sweet post. Thanks!
whatever happened to John Cauthern???
probably committed to a mental institution
Wow, I can't remember the last time anyone ever referenced me. Anyways, the biggest reason I thought that the PT57E code was the mold for the iPrestige was becuase of the dimples at the throat (they are exactly the same--more curved), while the dimples in the PT57A are "deeper" just like the old blue PT630/280. Also, I think the weight, balance, graphite layup, flex, and materials play much more of a difference/impact in the performace characteristics of the frame than the mold from which it comes from. I mean lets face it...both the A and E versions are the same frame head size (630 cm^2), beam width, and string pattern with only slight differences in the dimples and curvature of the racquet edges. I have played with both pj versions, and the E is slightly more "hollow" feeling and the A a bit more dense, but again this might have been attributed to the make-up of the frame.
My final thoughts...pro paintjob frames are a waste of time. Its so rare to get 3+ frames that are the same (unless the manufacturer is sponsoring you), so as an actual playing frame you'll never have much consistency in your bag. And this is probably the single most important factor in tennis equipment. People on the bay are bidding on that MG frame at $400 for 1 frame! Big waste of $$$. Besides, most people who are all in to what the pros have--suck at tennis anyways. Stop being "wanabees", concentrate on your game and stick with the mass produced frames. Much more to gain.
lol....hmmm, yeah probably.
"Stop being "wanabees", concentrate on your game"
Pleepers hit it on the head (no pun intended).
Thanks Pleepers, great post!!
^^^ No problemo ^^^
Well said. Ever see these guys who know every sports stat there is, can name players, teams, the years they won or lost, etc? They are all fat, out of shape guys who couldn't throw, hit or kick a ball to save their lives. It's the same with the racquet spec nerds. As I've said countless times, how you hit is far more important than what you hit with.
You don't have to be at level X.X just to be able to ask certain questions about pro gear. Last time I checked, TTW is for anyone who's willing to discuss tennis.
^^^AC this JW10S is a burned out ATP chump, there are few here who are 3.0 level players who know more than all the ATP players put together when it comes to gear,
Hey, everyone can't be good. Some people out there are just gearheads and equipment buffs. Thank Goodness, cause they are the ones, in the end, who provide so many nice equipment options and keep players rackets performing. So what if they are only below avg players. They probably contribute more to the game than most above avg players ever will.
I'm not interested in a flame war. Between being a good player who knows very little about racquet customization and a poor player who knows everything about what the pros play with...I pick being the good player. Unfortuneately not everyone has the choice. :neutral:
Why cant you be both?
^^^too bad its cracked. its above my tv, still haven't taken the overgrip off. maybe if gulbis drops to 200ish in the world i'll take it apart.
I'm sure there are many who are both. But based on the statement I was originally making: this is less often the case.
Im sorry to resurect this thread but does anyone know exactly what strings Gulbis is using. I know its some Pacific
can you make the picture a little more bigger, cos i cant see...:shock:
^^^hahaha, sorry, they were a little toooo oversized
Excuse me for my english, i resume this thread to set the question about the mysterious picture of Gulbis replacement grip: if isn't any lead tape, which is the replacement grip white with grey stripes?
Know anyone it?
It could be anything really.
I looked through TW's replacement grips and saw nothing like it. In the pictures it looks ALOT like lead tape. I don't know any grip that would look like it has superimposed strips of silver like that.
But it could be a lesser known brand, as the owner of this Gulbis frame said it was a grip with stripes and Not lead tape. Though it does look like a stock head hydrosorb(whatever comes stock on Microgels now) in white with lead strips on it.
Here is the grip this is the black version thoughhttp://www.tennis-warehouse.com/viewlarge.html?PCODE=SOFTACTRAC
^^^i wanna take the overgrip off 'n see what it is but what if gulbis becomes a top 5 player, i'd be kicking myself. i'll try to pull the overgrip back 'n see if i can get a good pic of the grip. i actually hit with it cracked and it still felt good, and i'm a 4.5, i might start using that pacific poly that its strung with..but i think its the customized pt57e that does the trick.
I suppose so. Although here is that grip in the Grey color.
It appears to be a different shade of grey, the color in the picture is the silver of lead tape, and the rest of the grip is white. Doesn't seem like the right base grip to me.
I'm not saying it is lead tape, leelord said it isn't and i'm sure he knows what lead tape looks like. Just dunno what base grip that could be :-/
Ack, my link is broken. But if you put in both 'pro' and 'direct' as one word where the asterisks are that is the link to the pic.
^^^yeah i know what lead tape is, i used to splice it in half (the gamma kind) and but it at 10 and 2 o'clock on my 300g. now i use the tf 325 and like it w/o any lead.
ok i'm about to do something crazy, i had this since april and haven't touched the grip, i am gonna unwrap it a little to see what kinda grip it is. pics to come soon. wow, surprising result, you'll see soon
its a white head grip, and it looks like it has been on there for a long time and the "lead" is actually sweat grime over time that turned it gray, or probably from the tournagrip too.
Christ sakes, PurePrestige, look what you made Leelord do. Curiosity killed the cat. Much ado over nothing.
He can rewrap it quite easily? Good as new. It's still got its sentimental value.
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