I have a new found respect for pure drive users

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Used my mates pure drive today and my elbow started aching after about 15mins and did so for the whole 2 hour hit. And this is coming from a person that recently has been using an RF97. You guys are such brave people to put your health at such a risk. Such courageous warriors. I thank you for your service.
 
Used my mates pure drive today and my elbow started aching after about 15mins and did so for the whole 2 hour hit. And this is coming from a person that recently has been using an RF97. You guys are such brave people to put your health at such a risk. Such courageous warriors. I thank you for your service.
I had Pure Drives briefly. That racquet felt like a toy. So easy to rip winners from virtually anywhere. Everything seemed so easy after playing with 85-90" Pro Staffs. Then I played in a tournament and felt like a car hit me on my shoulder and elbow. I took many months off and I sold those sticks and went to the RF 97 at the time.

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Used my mates pure drive today and my elbow started aching after about 15mins and did so for the whole 2 hour hit. And this is coming from a person that recently has been using an RF97. You guys are such brave people to put your health at such a risk. Such courageous warriors. I thank you for your service.
I have played with a APD Plus strung RPM Blast 16G at 55 lbs. I was alot of fun to be honest compared to my RF as I was able to hit some amazing, spinny ground strokes and serves and volleying was great as well. Felt like it was a magic wand. But the next day my wrist and elbow were on fire. Maybe it was the exaggerated "nadal" strokes I was using with the APD, maybe it was the frame.
 
Used my mates pure drive today and my elbow started aching after about 15mins and did so for the whole 2 hour hit. And this is coming from a person that recently has been using an RF97. You guys are such brave people to put your health at such a risk. Such courageous warriors. I thank you for your service.
Anyone playing with pretty much any current Babolat frame on the wrong side of their 30's is taking a chance with their health.
 
I've been working with my buddy and his girlfriend on playing tennis. He's got a bit of elbow pain issue that I'm helping him with. His form is jacked and I can see why his arm hurts.

His GF, OTOH, has a great natural swing. She can hit with almost the same amount of pace because she uses her whole body rather than just her arms/shoulders. She showed up with her son's Pure Drive strung with poly of unknown age. She did fine the whole time and never complained about pain.

In any case, both are ordering up Prince racquets and I'll string them with NXT.
 
Is there a warning sticker on the frame? Class action, anyone?

A local pal of mine used to be in the racquet string & stringing machines industry. He would always joke about how he thought that poly should come with a Surgeon General's warning label like the ones on packs of cigarettes. That was years ago and I can't even count how many folks in my area have run into arm troubles after playing the classic combo of a stiff Babolat (or something similar) and a snug bed of RPM Blast or the like.

Not so funny anymore.
 
I hit with a RF97 last winter upon the insistent of a Wilson dealer. I handed it back after 10 minutes and said, "Never again."
Correct decision. I made such a bad mistake choosing to use the RF97. Never had a history of arm issues but it’s the first racket I used that has caused me some. Had tendonitis a couple of weeks back from it. Back on my pro staff 95 now
 
Hmmm. I’m almost 52 and use the newest PD. It’s been my main racquet for about a year and a half. No arm or shoulder problems. I also used a Pure Aero before that with no problems. I did get wrist pain from the PA only when I added lead at 3&9.
Damn you’re lucky. I wish I had your arms. You have so much choice in what you can use
 
I've been working with my buddy and his girlfriend on playing tennis. He's got a bit of elbow pain issue that I'm helping him with. His form is jacked and I can see why his arm hurts.

His GF, OTOH, has a great natural swing. She can hit with almost the same amount of pace because she uses her whole body rather than just her arms/shoulders. She showed up with her son's Pure Drive strung with poly of unknown age. She did fine the whole time and never complained about pain.

In any case, both are ordering up Prince racquets and I'll string them with NXT.
She’s just lucky I guess that her arms can withstand the vibrations. Also I’d say it’s also down to how often you play. I can use the racket if I were to play like twice a week for a couple of hours per session. But I play everyday so I guess that also is a factor as to why I didn’t like it.
 
Chris Edwards did a recent TW video on a bunch of plush racquets around 62 RA and on the heavier side. So the racquet companies are listening on comfort.
 
I use the current PDT+ strung with full bed poly at mid to low 50 lbs. Never had any discomfort at all.

I’ve added 3g of lead at 12 and 6g on top of the handle, overgrip and no dampener.

I’m 48, elbow and wrist doing just fine. [emoji1303]
 
There are two guys I hit with that use Pure Drives. One is in his upper 60s and he says that it's comfortable and perfect for him. The other uses it and plays well - very hard hitter. The latter used to play with a Radical Oversize. So it's not necessarily age - I see older players using them well. I just cringe at the thought of using one myself.
 
I’m not amazed that a 71-2 RA stick will bother tendons. I’m amazed that someone who swings an RF97 would go to a PD (and vice versa). ~357-67g strung to ~317g strung. What could go wrong?
My main racket is the pro staff 95 but had been using the RF97 lately with the pro staff needing to go the stringers. I was just borrowing my mates as I didn’t have a racket to use
 
I’m not amazed that a 71-2 RA stick will bother tendons. I’m amazed that someone who swings an RF97 would go to a PD (and vice versa). ~357-67g strung to ~317g strung. What could go wrong?

Could just add lead tape to make up for the difference.
 
I use the current PDT+ strung with full bed poly at mid to low 50 lbs. Never had any discomfort at all.

I’ve added 3g of lead at 12 and 6g on top of the handle, overgrip and no dampener.

I’m 48, elbow and wrist doing just fine. [emoji1303]
Same story here, only I strung it with Head Hawk 58 lbs., the only reason I switched was that I could not hit a topspin lob with full confidence which was a deal breaker for me as I play mostly doubles and it's one of my favorite shots. Before PDT+ I played with the PS17 18 x 20, full bed high tension poly's, never had arm issues with it fortunately.
 
I don’t understand what pros are using under the PD PJs or how are they modifying them with silicone or foam. Find it impossible to believe they are just adding weight and that’s it.
 
I don’t understand what pros are using under the PD PJs or how are they modifying them with silicone or foam. Find it impossible to believe they are just adding weight and that’s it.

no, that's not the entire story.
they also train many years.
 
I had wrist pain when I hit with stock ps97 (2014) and the ultra tour (h19 molds).

No problems with pure aero (15) when it’s customized to my preferences.

I think our bodies adapt to the specs we learned to play tennis with and switching to a racket that is very different will cause issues bc you haven’t adapted to the new racket yet.

Try the pure drive with some modifications that gets close to you’re favorite racket.
 
adding weight does increase recoil weight lessening shock to your arms, along with the silicone and foam that dampens
Yeah adding weight alone would not be sufficient IMO. Assuming they’re not playing a different layup altogether then minimum foam/silicone to dampen
 
Yeah adding weight alone would not be sufficient IMO. Assuming they’re not playing a different layup altogether then minimum foam/silicone to dampen
I had a racket with a poly that gave me arm problems. I increased the static weight from 12oz to 12.5 oz with lead and leather and it completely got rid of the pain.
 
Babolats are stiff racquets, and they do have a propensity to cause arm problems.

I’ve gotten the worst arm problems from the Graphene Radical Pro.
 
Babolats are stiff racquets, and they do have a propensity to cause arm problems.

I’ve gotten the worst arm problems from Head racquets, especially the Graphene Radical Pro, just sayin
Ive had a decent run with the graphene xt radical pro, but what really killed my arm was the graphene prestige mp
 
I actually got some TE from my Youtek PMP. Of course I had 16ga poly strung pretty tight, and swung out on the ball
for me it seems that thick polys with thicker strings affect my elbow the most. but for some reason the graphene prestige mp and a couple of other rackets including my n six one 95 make my elbow click? but it starts to hurt after a while.
 
I notice that about 10% of users have problems with PD and the other 90% are satisfied users. And Pure Drive continues to be one of the best-selling rackets on this planet.

Why certain users have problems is another story, and the racket itself is not a problem in the most cases.
 
I know someone who plays with an extended PD at 68# full poly
After all, 68 lbs is not extreme. PD is 100 in, some normal tension is about 25kg (55lbs), 10 lbs is not that far away.

I often laugh at certain users saying I went +/- 2 lbs and feel the difference. I think 10 lbs is the minimum difference when testing what personally suits you ... and then fine tuning.
 
OP: were the strings (type, tension and life) the same as your current racquet? Also grip size, and grip type suitable for you?

all these things can be a factor and they can all result in discomfort. If you want a true experience with a Babolat, get a demo with your proper specs. Babolats are infamous for causing elbow pain but I don’t think it should be that severe.
 
After all, 68 lbs is not extreme. PD is 100 in, some normal tension is about 25kg (55lbs), 10 lbs is not that far away.

I often laugh at certain users saying I went +/- 2 lbs and feel the difference. I think 10 lbs is the minimum difference when testing what personally suits you ... and then fine tuning.

I dunno, I'm not super-sensitive to this stuff but I went from 55lb on my last string job to 50lb on my current one, and my stringer raised his eyebrows and said "Are you sure you want to go down that much?"

I hit with a PD lately and it didn't feel that extreme, but the racquet I use is pretty light and also hurts my arm (Prince warrior 100)
 
OP: were the strings (type, tension and life) the same as your current racquet? Also grip size, and grip type suitable for you?

all these things can be a factor and they can all result in discomfort. If you want a true experience with a Babolat, get a demo with your proper specs. Babolats are infamous for causing elbow pain but I don’t think it should be that severe.
They weren’t. They were a poly strung at 47lbs whereas I use a hybrid. I’ve had some arm pain in the past but this was the first time I felt pain concentrated in my inner elbow. I’m sure that played a part, but I have also used another mates aero pro drive strung with poly at 50 and didn’t feel any pain
 
Used my mates pure drive today and my elbow started aching after about 15mins and did so for the whole 2 hour hit. And this is coming from a person that recently has been using an RF97. You guys are such brave people to put your health at such a risk. Such courageous warriors. I thank you for your service.
I used RF97 for nearly two years, great frame in many respects, it has a balance of 315 mm. I tested the 3rd gen PS 18x20 and within 15-20 mins I started feeling pain on the outer side of my elbow. In my experience dealing with many racquets and players, I was sure it was related to the balance of the frame, so I changed its balance to 320 mm, no more pain, although it took 11 gm to do so.

After further testing of the PST version (3rd gen), I dumped the RF97 and switched to the PST. I have been using the PST since beginning of September, and recently I have been experiencing very mild elbow and shoulder pain. I, again, proceeded to changing its balance to 318 mm, 2 gm of tail-weighing. Since that change, I haven’t had even an indication of pain, it has been a superb frame for me.

IME, most elbow pain are related to the balance of the strung racquet and not the stiffness of the frame. The RF97 is one of the most HL frames you can use and it is stiffer than PD and PST, and its balance is one of the reasons it is so comfortable. I would imagine if you were to take a PD and balance it closer to the RF97, you may not feel any elbow pain.
 
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