I Hit With The NEW Wilson Pro Staff Six.One 95 BLX

heninfan99

heninfan99

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I got to hit with the new Wilson Pro Staff Six.One 95 BLX for 15 minutes. I found the stick at 11oz way too light for me. I didn't get any plow through with it. Otherwise it's a nice stick. Two other guys that tried it loved it and it will be their new stick of choice for 2012.
I didn't get a chance to serve with it.

I think once you go with a 12oz stick you can't go back (unless injuries force you to).
 
BobFL said:
BLXPS 95 has GREAT plow. You are just not good enough to use it...
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I agree with the OP. I playtested this frame about a month and a half ago. Great all-around feel, solid, maneuverable, spin, etc..... but has very little plow-thru. Much too light feeling for my taste, but on the other hand it is very customizable.
 
isnt the lighter weight a good thing? its just like a prostock, it will allow you to customize it properly.
But also allows a wider range of players to learn that babolats suck... Oops, I mean they can start out lighter then as they get better they can add more lead.
 
My demo was 340grams (strung+overgrip) and it swung like a log. It had ton of plow. Maybe they are not all the same (QC?).
 
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Probably the case.

I played with the PS 100 tonight. Far too light for me, but was fun to play with it nonetheless. Box beam feel is just stellar.
 
courtking said:
Wilson new Pro Staff Signature series all has box beam.. PS BLX 90, 95 and 100 has box beam..
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Hey, I'm all for that, but it's not what I heard. Someone even had a picture from the new Wilson catalog that showed a different beam shape for the PS 100, but I can't seem to find it at present. If you've seen the new frame with your own eyes, I'll have to take your word for it.
 
OP said his stick was 11 ounches (311.8 grams) and BobFL said his was 340 grams?

thats about 28 grams....if that is a QC problem, that seems pretty horrible.
Is that normal? O_o
 
Scribbles said:
OP said his stick was 11 ounches (311.8 grams) and BobFL said his was 340 grams?

thats about 28 grams....if that is a QC problem, that seems pretty horrible.
Is that normal? O_o
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Not surprised, one of my BLX90 has a slightly smaller grip even though it's a "4 3/8" like the rest of them. Trying to compensate for that while minimizing or without changing the balance of the frame, not easy.
 
This whole "qc" issue about Wilson has grown to mythical proportions and much of it isn't even warranted. You want really bad qc look no further than Babolat. The frames are continuously cracking at either the throat, grip or 2 and 10 o'clock.
 
drakulie said:
This whole "qc" issue about Wilson has grown to mythical proportions and much of it isn't even warranted. You want really bad qc look no further than Babolat. The frames are continuously cracking at either the throat, grip or 2 and 10 o'clock.
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so true. wilson may be bad, but take a look at babolat. it's so awful
 
the new lines of wilson racquets have already been posted on TW europe, but without the specs and other relevant info...
 
Scribbles said:
OP said his stick was 11 ounches (311.8 grams) and BobFL said his was 340 grams?

thats about 28 grams....if that is a QC problem, that seems pretty horrible.
Is that normal? O_o
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They were just comparing unstrung to strung weight. It is supposedly 11 Oz unstrung, and about 11.6 Oz strung (329 grams).
 
rrito said:
the new lines of wilson racquets have already been posted on TW europe, but without the specs and other relevant info...
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Ah, but they do have pics. I recant my earlier statement, the PS 100 does appear to have a box beam. Very interesting.
 
Agent Orynge said:
Hey, I'm all for that, but it's not what I heard. Someone even had a picture from the new Wilson catalog that showed a different beam shape for the PS 100, but I can't seem to find it at present. If you've seen the new frame with your own eyes, I'll have to take your word for it.
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I saw the new PS 95 and the 100 at my local shop. Both definitely have a box beam. I think the 100 will be very popular (and the 95, but maybe not as much). As was stated earlier in the thread, the light weight allows beginners to start light and add weight as they see fit as their game matures. These frames can be customized to match most anyone's need. And if shops start talking these things up, look out babolat!
 
It looks like a nice racquet but 11 ounces is way too light for my taste. I'll give the blx pro staff 95 non box beam a whirl whenever it comes out, but not this. Also the pro staff blx 90 looks pretty sweet also, I don't know about the 100. I agree with the last poster, look out Babolat lol, it might give the pure drive and the aeropro drive lines a run for their money. I doubt it seeing how popular those two lines are but taking away a little of babolats profits can go a long way.
 
The Djoker said:
I saw the new PS 95 and the 100 at my local shop. Both definitely have a box beam. I think the 100 will be very popular (and the 95, but maybe not as much). As was stated earlier in the thread, the light weight allows beginners to start light and add weight as they see fit as their game matures. These frames can be customized to match most anyone's need. And if shops start talking these things up, look out babolat!
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Where is your local shop?
 
Thanks Wilson!

If I wasn't extremely happy with my current stick I would consider the PS BLX 95 (in 2 years of course:twisted:) when they would be heavily discounted.

If they proved to be too unstable then I would add lead weight at 12 oclock until happy. If the racquet was twisting after adding weight at 12 then I would remove it and add it at 9 and 3 until it had sufficient stability.

So glad Wilson made 3 different box beams more geared for the club player.

Paint job is pretty good. Could be better and could be worse.
 
The Djoker said:
I saw the new PS 95 and the 100 at my local shop. Both definitely have a box beam. I think the 100 will be very popular (and the 95, but maybe not as much). As was stated earlier in the thread, the light weight allows beginners to start light and add weight as they see fit as their game matures. These frames can be customized to match most anyone's need. And if shops start talking these things up, look out babolat!
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actually, i could be wrong :???:

i officially retract all statements regarding the beam shape of the pro staff blx 100.:)
 
heninfan99 said:
I got to hit with the new Wilson Pro Staff Six.One 95 BLX for 15 minutes. I found the stick at 11oz way too light for me. I didn't get any plow through with it. Otherwise it's a nice stick. Two other guys that tried it loved it and it will be their new stick of choice for 2012.
I didn't get a chance to serve with it.

I think once you go with a 12oz stick you can't go back (unless injuries force you to).
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JGads said:
^^
Probably the case.

I played with the PS 100 tonight. Far too light for me, but was fun to play with it nonetheless. Box beam feel is just stellar.
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I playtested that one for TW. Very fun to play with and the box beam feel was wonderful. The intereting thing also is that Wilson has the beam listed @ 22 mm tapered beam. It is barely 20 mm at 3 & 9.. and 18 mm at the head
 
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drakulie said:
This whole "qc" issue about Wilson has grown to mythical proportions and much of it isn't even warranted. You want really bad qc look no further than Babolat. The frames are continuously cracking at either the throat, grip or 2 and 10 o'clock.
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This is not surprising, given the design of having a "flatter throat."
It's physics.
 
Specs for the Pro Staff 6.1 line...

PS 6.1 100
Head Size: 100 sq. in.
Length: 27.25 inches
Strung Weight: 303g
Balance: 3 HL
Swingweight: 304
Stiffness: 65
Beam: 19-22-21mm
String Pattern:16x18

PS 6.1 95
Head Size: 95 sq. in.
Length: 27 inches
Strung Weight: 326g
Balance: 7 HL
Swingweight: 306
Stiffness: 62
Beam: 18mm
String Pattern: 16x19

PS 6.1 Tour
Head Size: 90 sq. inches
Length: 27in
Strung Weight: 357g
Balance: 8 HL
Swingweight: 327
Stiffness: 65
Beam: 17.5mm
String Pattern: 16x19
 
Xizel said:
I still can't believe the SW measure came in at 305-310. That's such a bummer.
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Lead tape is your friend. This frame is an opportunity to create a powerful upper stringbed since they left the hoop so light. Long strips of lead across the whole bumper, or maybe slightly higher than where the bumper ends, and lead at the top of the grip should make for an almost pro stock like pro staff.
 
TaihtDuhShaat said:
Lead tape is your friend. This frame is an opportunity to create a powerful upper stringbed since they left the hoop so light. Long strips of lead across the whole bumper, or maybe slightly higher than where the bumper ends, and lead at the top of the grip should make for an almost pro stock like pro staff.
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What do you mean when you say "pro stock like pro staff"? What are common advantages of pro stock frames other than lots of room for customization?
 
samalo0 said:
They were just comparing unstrung to strung weight. It is supposedly 11 Oz unstrung, and about 11.6 Oz strung (329 grams).
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Wouldn't the weight differ depending on the strings you use? I mean gauge 16 should weigh a few grams more than 17 or 18.
 
StayLoose said:
What do you mean when you say "pro stock like pro staff"? What are common advantages of pro stock frames other than lots of room for customization?
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You got it, the light hoop allows for generous lead customization. One extra element pro stock frames have are lighter throat regions, which help give the top of the stringbed more equal power to the bottom. I don't how how light the throat of the ps blx 95 will be yet, though.
 
TaihtDuhShaat said:
You got it, the light hoop allows for generous lead customization. One extra element pro stock frames have are lighter throat regions, which help give the top of the stringbed more equal power to the bottom. I don't how how light the throat of the ps blx 95 will be yet, though.
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Thanks for the clarification. However, it raises more questions. For example, what's the drawback of this light throat, evenly powered stringbed setup? If it was all positive, why wouldn't all rackets be constructed that way already? Hope I'm not over-analyzing this.
 
StayLoose said:
Thanks for the clarification. However, it raises more questions. For example, what's the drawback of this light throat, evenly powered stringbed setup? If it was all positive, why wouldn't all rackets be constructed that way already? Hope I'm not over-analyzing this.
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Racquets are sold with heavier throats for a number of reasons.

1) stiffness - a lighter throat usually flexes more, reducing the power level and increasing the bite or spin of the racquet. Consumers want easy power with light SW's, so the manufacturer stiffens and weights the throat to increase power without increasing SW.

2)SW - Manufacturers try to keep the SW low for the consumer so the racquet is easy to swing, but also stable and not overly HL. A good way to do this is by adding weight to the throat. It makes the racquet feel more stable without reducing the power level too much. This is at the expense of a uniform string bed. This makes the bottom of the bed much more reactive than the top.

So light throats are only beneficial if the player will use higher sw's (~342 and up), and like some flex to the racquet. Then they can also enjoy the benefit of a more evenly powered string bed.

Another thing to consider is modern vs. traditional swing style.

One could argue that the swing dynamics heavier throats are better suited for eastern forehand grips and lighter throats more towards western because a heavier throat with lower SW will make for a racquet head that swings faster with the hand.


Now the trick for me is finding a frame that has a light throat but is also fairly stiff. I believe I have found a frame like this. More to come later.
 
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Fedchamp said:
Has anyone else hit with this yet? The sw seems quite low low for me.
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I bought the BLX Pro Staff Six.One 95 yesterday (Monday) at a pro shop here in Brisbane. They were literally right out of the box (I'd been able to demo it ahead of time) and the price was pretty much standard for Wilson six.one 90/95 frames. I get a 20% discount through my tennis association so it ended up being roughly $220.

No, it's not as stable or inherently powerful as my blx90. However, I wasn't expecting it to be. It's easier to swing, it is comfortable even on shots that hit off-centre ( important because I've an ongoing shoulder problem), spin is easy to generate (moreso than the blx90, due to the drop in weight and larger hitting area) and it is a versatile frame.

In regards to strings and tension, I know that I'll want it strung on the lower end of the scale ; probably around 50lbs and with something I find a bit softer. I don't think I'll be able to afford natural gut (although I think gut would be a great choice) so I'll probably go for something like Head FXP Power 17g or even Alpha Gut 2000 17g.

All up, it's a nice compromise for me. I get something easier to swing than my blx90 but, unlike the six.one Team, it has an open string pattern and it's not such a radical departure from my blx90 frames. There's also a lot of room to move if you do want to customise the racquet but although I did buy a pack of lead tape I'll probably start out trying to find the right balance via string type and tension.

It's impossible for me to say whether the swingweight is too low or not; that's for each person to decide for themselves. I will say that I didn't feel it swung as light as the Prince Diablo MP (11.7oz, 7pts HL, 316 swingweight - although I think the Diablo MP is more like 9pts HL) and the feel on impact was more substantial than the Wilson six-one 95 Team racquets. In terms of heft and swingweight it felt not too dissimilar to the Wilson kBlade Tour but with a much nicer feel in the hand due to the box beam shape and a more spin friendly response. Ultimately, if you want a racquet that has a higher swingweight then buy one with a higher swingweight.
 
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Ideally I want the specs coming close to a Bab PS tour. The factory specs come close, but the sw is significantly lower. Would be nice if anyone who has hit with both could tell me if tape would be needed.
 
Fedchamp said:
Ideally I want the specs coming close to a Bab PS tour. The factory specs come close, but the sw is significantly lower. Would be nice if anyone who has hit with both could tell me if tape would be needed.
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You can demo it now. I have not hit bab ps tour but demo-ed ps 95. TW has it listed at 306 SW. I think it is good stock if you like low SW and high swing speeds. It has a very good feel - solid but soft flex with old school box beam feel. It also generates tons of spin. It feels like you can hold on to the ball and tell it where to go. But, it does not generate easy power due to low SW. You need to setup and whack it to get power.

My subjective opinion is I would add weight to the head. If you don't want to mess up the way it looks, try putting lead tape under the bumper which runs across the top from about 10 to 2 o'clock. You could offset with lead under the grip to maintain or adjust the balance. Again, my opinion is I would probably add a bit of tape at 3/9 o'clock too and that would be visibile. A little lead tape being visible doesn't both me. If it is good enough for Sampras and Djoko, it is good enough for me as they both have huge strips of lead visible at 3/9 o'clock.

Write Wilson and tell them to build a capped type grommet that runs down the sides like the Head Prestige. Then we could add lead down the side under the grommet and no one would see it. This would be cool.
 
"Write Wilson and tell them to build a capped type grommet that runs down the sides like the Head Prestige. Then we could add lead down the side under the grommet and no one would see it. This would be cool."

The additional weight of the capped grommet might preclude the need to put lead underneath it.
 
Fedchamp said:
Ideally I want the specs coming close to a Bab PS tour. The factory specs come close, but the sw is significantly lower. Would be nice if anyone who has hit with both could tell me if tape would be needed.
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This is a heads up comparison. At the end of last year I spent a couple sessions with the PS Tour and all you read about it is spot on, including the hot spots in the string bed. Now I haven't owned one so I don't know if that's something a different string bed would fix. That said, it's the racquet I'm comparing others to. I like the heavy ball, stability and serve with the PST. Volleys are like serving ice cream in the summer time.

The pro staff 95 compared to last years BLX 95 has a lower swing weight and is more spin friendly. Much easier to manuver with. But doesn't seem to generate the heavy ball and it's less stable. I'm going to play more this weekend, at this point I'm not sure if this is a good one for me.
 
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