I just don't get that "Windshield Wiper" forehand

[El Pelele]

Don't get me wrong here, I have been researching on this thing and reading many things about it, but I just don't get it.

How is this "motion" any different from rolling your wrist/racket? I sometimes "roll" my hand/wrist and do a swing that looks like a windshield blade of a car.

But with that I do not mean that I just roll my wrist alone and not make a full swing and follow through, I do make a full swing and all, but when I start to accelerate the racket, my hand is already doing the motion I said, so it kind of "whips" the ball in a way.

I also don't "flick" the racket either, as I've read that people say that, that is I don't like, throw the racket forward like you would with a serve, this roll I do is from low to high and it does not go forward like when you pat the ball or something.

I guess I could say that I have 2 types of forehands:

1-I use this "rolling" movement with my wrist in addition with a whole swing, it has given me more spin to create angles many times

2-In this one, I just accelerate the racket forward low-to-high and do my best to keep it aligned or very horizontal, it looks pretty much like the one in this video, the path it has:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8f2dPzVWnU

Also, I don't really know what differences there are between the "standard" forehand and this windshield wiper. Cheers!

 

[wihamilton]

pele -- this video on the windshield wiper forehand might help. let me know.

 

[Noaler]

Produces different spin generally.

 

[tlm]

Produces a lot more spin, not just different. Lets you take big cuts at the ball+ still brings ball down in the court with nasty topspin.You have to use very fast racquet head speed to learn this shot, if not you will never get the ww forehand.The key is brushing the ball, not hitting it.

 

[Micky]

Don't get me wrong here, I have been researching on this thing and reading many things about it, but I just don't get it.

How is this "motion" any different from rolling your wrist/racket? I sometimes "roll" my hand/wrist and do a swing that looks like a windshield blade of a car.

But with that I do not mean that I just roll my wrist alone and not make a full swing and follow through, I do make a full swing and all, but when I start to accelerate the racket, my hand is already doing the motion I said, so it kind of "whips" the ball in a way.

I also don't "flick" the racket either, as I've read that people say that, that is I don't like, throw the racket forward like you would with a serve, this roll I do is from low to high and it does not go forward like when you pat the ball or something.

I guess I could say that I have 2 types of forehands:

1-I use this "rolling" movement with my wrist in addition with a whole swing, it has given me more spin to create angles many times

2-In this one, I just accelerate the racket forward low-to-high and do my best to keep it aligned or very horizontal, it looks pretty much like the one in this video, the path it has:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8f2dPzVWnU

Also, I don't really know what differences there are between the "standard" forehand and this windshield wiper. Cheers!

Hola Pelele,

Just get yourself a Babolat AeroPro Drive Cortex and you will automatically hit your forehands window wiper style. Guaranteed.

 

[toughshot]

Hola Pelele,

Just get yourself a Babolat AeroPro Drive Cortex and you will automatically hit your forehands window wiper style. Guaranteed.

that's mildly misleading.. to say the least

 

[Legend of Borg]

I believe Federer's forehand finishes with a windshield wiper motion. Never quite understood how to do it.

 

[Clay lover]

A big part of the wiper forehand is just the natural following through motion. If you hit up and through the ball with a semiwestern/ western grip you are almost guaranteed to have a windshield wiper motion.

 

[toughshot]

it just means you're brushing up more than you're hitting through

basically.. in the simplest terms.

It helps keep hard hit balls in with added topspin.. taking some pace off of it. It's only been in use recently because rackets/strings/players have become faster, and more powerful.

 

[Micky]

A big part of the wiper forehand is just the natural following through motion. If you hit up and through the ball with a semiwestern/ western grip you are almost guaranteed to have a windshield wiper motion.

Hey Clay,

That's mildly misleading... to say the least. Hahahaha.

 

[El Pelele]

Produces a lot more spin, not just different. Lets you take big cuts at the ball+ still brings ball down in the court with nasty topspin.You have to use very fast racquet head speed to learn this shot, if not you will never get the ww forehand.The key is brushing the ball, not hitting it.

Hmm, I think I do have a fast swing. Yeah. But I thought that you had to hit through it+in an upward drive? That's what I heard

pele -- this video on the windshield wiper forehand might help. let me know.

Yeah, I had already looked at that one, I'll check it again.

Hola Pelele,

Just get yourself a Babolat AeroPro Drive Cortex and you will automatically hit your forehands window wiper style. Guaranteed.

Well I use a wilson six.one tour 90...

A big part of the wiper forehand is just the natural following through motion. If you hit up and through the ball with a semiwestern/ western grip you are almost guaranteed to have a windshield wiper motion.

That's how I actually hit, or try to. I'll check it all next time I get on court, as I couldn't today. Thanks all.

 

[El Pelele]

Hey also, are all the forehands Federer hits WW? Is the one in the video I put there a WW too?

 

[Satch]

Hey also, are all the forehands Federer hits WW? Is the one in the video I put there a WW too?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZ7vHxe6XTY

 

[Ultra2HolyGrail]

You need a pretty extreme grip for one. That probably is key. I'm really not a fan of the wiper forehand, but there's no argueing it can be very effective with baseline play.

 

[5263]

What I like about the wiper, is that for me it seems to glean the best of 2 ways of hitting a TS FH. You can get the near straight thru drive of a flat power FH, hybrided (is that a word?LoL)
with big spin of a heavy TS shot,
when your contact point and timing are right.

This shot can produce a very heavy ball that gets quickly thru the ct, but with good net clearance and has some nice bend on it, along with a nice hop off the bounce. A great shot for smacking heat on short and mid court sitters.

 

[Andres]

You need a pretty extreme grip for one. That probably is key. I'm really not a fan of the wiper forehand, but there's no argueing it can be very effective with baseline play.

Not true. The easiest way to hit topspin with an Eastern grip is altering the swingpath into a WW.

 

[Ultra2HolyGrail]

Not true. The easiest way to hit topspin with an Eastern grip is altering the swingpath into a WW.

I think it's true most eastern gripers usually don't have a WW forehand. Sure it can be done with a eastern though. Just probably more natural with a extreme grip. Do you have a eastern with a ww forehand?

 

[es-0]

I think it's true most eastern gripers usually don't have a WW forehand. Sure it can be done with a eastern though. Just probably more natural with a extreme grip. Do you have a eastern with a ww forehand?

I hit with a WW forehand with a mostly eastern grip, it's closer to semi-western but it's still on the eastern bevel. I also can hit with a lot of spin when I need too, but I'm trying to drive it flatter.

 

[Andres]

I think it's true most eastern gripers usually don't have a WW forehand. Sure it can be done with a eastern though. Just probably more natural with a extreme grip. Do you have a eastern with a ww forehand?

I use a regular Eastern path, but I alter it to WW to bring up low balls, and to rip high balls with topspin.

 

[Master Flow]

A big part of the wiper forehand is just the natural following through motion. If you hit up and through the ball with a semiwestern/ western grip you are almost guaranteed to have a windshield wiper motion.

agreed its natural you cant force it (well....you can) but it wont be as effective

 

[Bungalo Bill]

agreed its natural you cant force it (well....you can) but it wont be as effective

Actually you can force it a bit and it can be effective.

 

[user92626]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Clay lover
A big part of the wiper forehand is just the natural following through motion. If you hit up and through the ball with a semiwestern/ western grip you are almost guaranteed to have a windshield wiper motion.

agreed its natural you cant force it (well....you can) but it wont be as effective



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I don't get it. What's "natural" or "force"? You either do it or you don't. If you do it, do it correctly and intentional, and you'll get what you want.

 

[MTXR]

I haven't been able to master this yet....I frame a lot of things when trying it.