I just forgot how to hit my Single handed BH. Seriously.

Hey, so here's the deal. I have been hitting a single handed bh for almost two years now. From around six months back until now, it had transformed into a decent attacking stroke, and it was no longer my 'weak stroke'
But three days back, (after a two day break), suddenly I couldn't make the shot.
I was either hitting it one bounce into the net, or hitting the fence directly. After some video recs and r&d, I figured the flaw. Yesterday when I went to play, I did the correction, but only after wasting 45 minutes of horrible shots. And the end of the session, I felt great again.
But today again when I go to practice, the same horrible bhs to start, and then towards the end, I got the hang of it.

Has this happened to anyone before? It was like I just forgot how to hit that shot.... closely resembling my first day of a 1BH.
If anyone could please let me know what's the problem, it will be of huge help, as I have a match coming up in two weeks, where I can't afford to rely on my slice.
Thanks
 

Fairhit

Professional
Are your strings still playable? When something like that happens it could be a variation in your equipment, easier for the forehand to compensate, not so much for the backhand.

That would be the first thing for me to check, from there you can start to rule out other possible causes.
 
Heyy Thanks for replying.
If you know me and seen my need help to select Head racquet thread, you might know that I wanted a heavier racquet, and for now, have added weight. 12 g on the beam, 4g each at 3,9 and 12. To balance it, also added Silicone to the handle, which must have been a good 20 30 gms.
The racquet felt heavy on the first day, but in a positive way, you know.... it felt super easy to bunt the ball, especially when playing with advance guys.
Something I noticed was, the strings felt dead.... I didn't think much of it at that time, and simply added a shock-stop, and felt good.
But I must say that the racquet doesn't feel like before. The feel super weird without a shock stop.
But I also have to tell you that, this backhand problem started 3 days back, another three days after I added the weight. So that mean I played 2 sessions with the weight, and was hitting well.
Also, my forehand is the same as before, if not better.
 

Pumpkin

Semi-Pro
Yes it's happened to me. Just a matter of practice. I've been hitting it for 15 years now. Never goes away. But after 2 years yes it can go away temporarily. Just got to do your time man.
 
No way of telling w/o seeing it--can u post a vid? Guessing I would say the issue is in your shoulder muscle not being cocked in preparation to pull the trigger on the shot. Do u take ur racket "UP" above your head (right) or "back" with a straight arm (wrong)?
 
Yes it's happened to me. Just a matter of practice. I've been hitting it for 15 years now. Never goes away. But after 2 years yes it can go away temporarily. Just got to do your time man.
Really? Same as what I'm experiencing? Can you describe what happened to you please?
 
No way of telling w/o seeing it--can u post a vid? Guessing I would say the issue is in your shoulder muscle not being cocked in preparation to pull the trigger on the shot. Do u take ur racket "UP" above your head (right) or "back" with a straight arm (wrong)?
Ummm idk how to post a video, I will if I come to know :D
My main problem was, I like to hit with very heavy topspin on my bh. That way I don't have to bother with using half of my power.... and it works for me.
Now, to add such topspin, I used to swing my racquet diagonally downwards to upwards, as opposed to sideways, which is the correct technique. After sometime, my bodyweight started falling backwards.
But I could still rally at very highspeeds... (used to flatten my shots at high speeds)
So I used to fall back after hitting.... but that didn't trouble me much....
 

Shroud

G.O.A.T.
Sounds like you added weight and then it was good. But then it wasnt.

often when you make an equipment change you focus more and its good. Then your body takes over and things can go wrong. Often its a new racquet that was great when demoing but after you get it then it isnt

also with the added weight you will most likely need to add tension since the stick is now more powerful.
 

Fairhit

Professional
Sounds like you added weight and then it was good. But then it wasnt.

often when you make an equipment change you focus more and its good. Then your body takes over and things can go wrong. Often its a new racquet that was great when demoing but after you get it then it isnt

also with the added weight you will most likely need to add tension since the stick is now more powerful.
This ^, if you are playing regularly and have no problems at all and then you change your racquet or strings or add or take a few pounds in your last stringjob, your body and muscle memory will be the firstones to know, yes, sometimes it will feel amazing and sometimes it will feel awful but I'm both cases the body will compensate.

In this case the racquet is more heavy and it has taken the body a little time to get the hang of it, you have to hit every backhand very consciously and the you feel like your backhand has returned, then it will happen again the next session as your muscle momory is still executing with the weight and balance of your last racquet, it takes a number of sessions for the habit to hold and become unconscious.
 
Sounds like you added weight and then it was good. But then it wasnt.

often when you make an equipment change you focus more and its good. Then your body takes over and things can go wrong. Often its a new racquet that was great when demoing but after you get it then it isnt

also with the added weight you will most likely need to add tension since the stick is now more powerful.
Ohhh ok, I'll try with more tension when I string the next time...
Thanks
 
This ^, if you are playing regularly and have no problems at all and then you change your racquet or strings or add or take a few pounds in your last stringjob, your body and muscle memory will be the firstones to know, yes, sometimes it will feel amazing and sometimes it will feel awful but I'm both cases the body will compensate.

In this case the racquet is more heavy and it has taken the body a little time to get the hang of it, you have to hit every backhand very consciously and the you feel like your backhand has returned, then it will happen again the next session as your muscle momory is still executing with the weight and balance of your last racquet, it takes a number of sessions for the habit to hold and become unconscious.
Ahh okay, so you're saying I have to hit each and every backhand consciously, with the perfect prep, before it becomes a habit again...
Thanks!
 

Booger

Hall of Fame
Yes, this has happened to me before both with both my backhand and serve. Something happens with the muscle memory going dormant even though I have many thousands of hours of practice under my belt. Tennis version of the yips.

I take it all the way back to basics. Don't move on until you've mastered each step.

Practice 1 --> 500+ drop feeds (or sub ball machine at very low speed, or use a wall), jog your brain on what the correct stroke path feels like
Practice 2 --> Grab a partner and start with short court. Shoot for 50 ball rallies down the middle and slowly work your way back to the baseline. Hit easy rallies for minimum 2 hours.
Practice 3 --> Cross court baseline rallies and then down the line baseline rallies. Next, repeat with 1 guy at the net.
Practice 4 --> Baseline games like defense/offense, then finish with a practice set
 

Chas Tennis

G.O.A.T.
Hey, so here's the deal. I have been hitting a single handed bh for almost two years now. From around six months back until now, it had transformed into a decent attacking stroke, and it was no longer my 'weak stroke'
But three days back, (after a two day break), suddenly I couldn't make the shot.
I was either hitting it one bounce into the net, or hitting the fence directly. After some video recs and r&d, I figured the flaw. Yesterday when I went to play, I did the correction, but only after wasting 45 minutes of horrible shots. And the end of the session, I felt great again.
But today again when I go to practice, the same horrible bhs to start, and then towards the end, I got the hang of it.

Has this happened to anyone before? It was like I just forgot how to hit that shot.... closely resembling my first day of a 1BH.
If anyone could please let me know what's the problem, it will be of huge help, as I have a match coming up in two weeks, where I can't afford to rely on my slice.
Thanks
There are different ways to start the forward stroke -
1) with uppermost body turn (high level 1HBH)
2) with the shoulder joint
3) with both

The resulting strokes and timing for 1) and 2) should be very different.

Another possibility is that you have stopped looking at the ball.
 

ballmachineguy

Professional
There are different ways to start the forward stroke -
1) with uppermost body turn (high level 1HBH)
2) with the shoulder joint
3) with both
What is in parentheses in 1) refutes your first sentence. Does anyone go out to learn tennis wanting anything other than a high level backhand? Who would take a lesson or ask for advice and say, “I don’t want to learn a good backhand, show me a bad one?”
 
Just hit some backhand balls against a wall if you can find one, otherwise against the back fence. You will find your mojo again.
Hey, Thanks. Yeah I have a wall near me, and use it too.... but I'm always a bit worried about playing on the wall. The reaction time is halved, which mean I either hit slow strokes to get proper technique, or I end up improvising the swing to keep the rally going.... So I'm always in a double-mind regarding the wall.
Yes, this has happened to me before both with both my backhand and serve. Something happens with the muscle memory going dormant even though I have many thousands of hours of practice under my belt. Tennis version of the yips.

I take it all the way back to basics. Don't move on until you've mastered each step.

Practice 1 --> 500+ drop feeds (or sub ball machine at very low speed, or use a wall), jog your brain on what the correct stroke path feels like
Practice 2 --> Grab a partner and start with short court. Shoot for 50 ball rallies down the middle and slowly work your way back to the baseline. Hit easy rallies for minimum 2 hours.
Practice 3 --> Cross court baseline rallies and then down the line baseline rallies. Next, repeat with 1 guy at the net.
Practice 4 --> Baseline games like defense/offense, then finish with a practice set
Hii, Thank you! Yes, on the 2nd day (after losing my BH), I started with the hand-feed drills alright, and then got the hang of it.... almost like before....but the next day, I somehow went back to square 1. My problem is that I haven't managed to get the confidence which I had a few days back..... I could go 3-4 days without hitting, and still be able to hit well. Idk what's gone wrong :cry:
Another possibility is that you have stopped looking at the ball.
Hello. Right here, you might have fixed my Bh!!!
I had a habit of not looking at the ball after it comes less than a meter towards me..... I left that long ago, but maybe I've been doing that again..... today I'll see in practice what happens. Thanks !!
 

Pumpkin

Semi-Pro
Really? Same as what I'm experiencing? Can you describe what happened to you please?
Hard to describe. It's like your brain loses control of your arm . A feeling like you are lost. I recommend having a short break. It will come back. Don't panic. Can try some practice swings in the mirror.
 

Fairhit

Professional
That's the grunt we hear pro players do, not all of them but a high number, coaches teach players to do an audible exhalation at the moment of contact as a technique to develop the exhalation when hitting.
 
In all seriousness, just add your other hand to the racquet. It's very, very effective. If I step onto the court and see a 1HBH across the net, I know I'm going to have a good day, and I have an instant game plan for the entire match.
 

Fairhit

Professional
In all seriousness, just add your other hand to the racquet. It's very, very effective. If I step onto the court and see a 1HBH across the net, I know I'm going to have a good day, and I have an instant game plan for the entire match.
What is that game plan? High balls to the backhand?
 
What is that game plan? High balls to the backhand?
Yes, essentially. Pound the backhand in rallies, approach to the backhand, heavy kick serves to the backhand, etc., until somebody proves to me they can pass me/hit 4 rally balls in a row off that wing.

Obviously if the guy/gal is better than me, I'm still going to lose, but if we're the same level, I'm going after that thing all day.

Note: This advice is like 50% less effective if you're in Europe or if the player is a high-performance junior - they've probably had real coaching on how to hit one.
 

Fintft

Legend
That's Superb, buddy!!

But what I meant here,

I meant that don't finish your breath before you make contact.... I had no doubts about your stamina really :):)
I understand and I don't usually run out of breath (hence the stupid example about lung capacity).
 

InSydeOut

New User
Hijacking this thread for a question of mine regarding 1HBH:

Anyone grip the racket with the pinky off? I get a much more relaxed arm doing this and my shots are so much easier and ball are heavier. However, doing this too often actually hurts my hand, as the buttcap is now in the middle of my palm, and combined with a fast swing the impact stresses my hand out.

I see Stanimal almost choking up on the racket as well as Henin, both of whom I have been trying to copy and to avoid hand pain, but I can't get the same swing structure if that makes any sense.
 

gold325

Semi-Pro
Hey, so here's the deal. I have been hitting a single handed bh for almost two years now. From around six months back until now, it had transformed into a decent attacking stroke, and it was no longer my 'weak stroke'
But three days back, (after a two day break), suddenly I couldn't make the shot.
I was either hitting it one bounce into the net, or hitting the fence directly. After some video recs and r&d, I figured the flaw. Yesterday when I went to play, I did the correction, but only after wasting 45 minutes of horrible shots. And the end of the session, I felt great again.
But today again when I go to practice, the same horrible bhs to start, and then towards the end, I got the hang of it.

Has this happened to anyone before? It was like I just forgot how to hit that shot.... closely resembling my first day of a 1BH.
If anyone could please let me know what's the problem, it will be of huge help, as I have a match coming up in two weeks, where I can't afford to rely on my slice.
Thanks
Has happened multiple times to me with multiple seperated diagnosis.

1. Leaving too much weight on back foot... Worst outcomes of all.

2. Hitting ball without using properly shoulder rotation... Was pushing through than pulling shoulder through rotation range. Not able to impart spin and hitting long.

3. Getting too wristy without proper shoulder rotation... Framing.

4. Not stretching out the trapezius in backswing and using the natural rubber band action that followed - instead trying to muscle it through. Very poor results.

5. Grip moving to continental. Weak wrist and excess wrist movement.

6. Grip moving to semi western.. hitting net a lot.

7. Contact point starts moving back. All hell breaks loose.

8. 1HBH always need decent foot movement and stepping into the ball. No open stances...

When it starts failing, stress and tension creep in and one issue snowballs into a combo of the above. A few rehearsals, self feeds and proper breathing to get back into the correct feels work great.
 
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