I just realized the ATP has included Laver Cup in its stats

#5
Agreed that matches should not be counted retroactively. The players must know going in that the match is "official."

It's stuff like this that makes match/title count across generations so meaningless. Lendl and Connors had no way of knowing what would and wouldn't be considered "official" in 2019. And the problem is exponentially greater if we try to compare to players before the open era.
 
#7
And it makes no sense. Why make it an official event if you can't qualify for it like the ATP WTF? The only way to play in this event is if you're invited, and there's no ranking points to be won. It's an exhibition that doesn't count but still counts. It's just really stupid no matter how you slice it. The only reasons I can think of why the ATP is pushing it so hard is because of money and because Fed came up with the idea
 
#9
And it makes no sense. Why make it an official event if you can't qualify for it like the ATP WTF? The only way to play in this event is if you're invited, and there's no ranking points to be won. It's an exhibition that doesn't count but still counts. It's just really stupid no matter how you slice it. The only reasons I can think of why the ATP is pushing it so hard is because of money and because Fed came up with the idea
Or perhaps they want Federer to surpass Connors' record of most matches played and won.
 
#18
Blasphemous if the ATP is retrospectively considering those official matches
They have done it all of the time. The Pepsi Grand Slam in the late 70's/early 80s they didn't count at the time - now they do. The Grand Slam Cup of the 1990s they didn't count at the time, now they do. I do want them to recognize the European Community Championship which was a real tournament in the 1980s - but they don't. Go figure....
 
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#24
6-9 isn't an impressive record for the number 43 against the top 3?
Not at all. And Nick's wins don't count, because Djokodal wouldn't lose to a disrespectful punk unless injured.
The same can never be said when Federer has lost to Djokodal, because he is always evolving. And he is not a punk; he's an arrogant ballerina with girly arms. So it's hard to compare.

I wonder what Nick's H2H with Big3 is adjusted for difficulty :sneaky:
 
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