crazyups
Professional
Thanks, but I'm not looking for a standard version of the 7g, I was looking for a standard length racquet with the crushing power of my leaded 7g and that would be the PDR.
I love the most random frame - Pro Kennex Kinetic Pro 7g
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Thanks, but I'm not looking for a standard version of the 7g, I was looking for a standard length racquet with the crushing power of my leaded 7g and that would be the PDR.
canadad
Semi-Pro
The PK Ki5 is one of the best racquets I have ever tried. I highly regret getting rid of mine. I switched back and forth between that and the 7G for a while, with no issue. I only got rid of it because I thought I should just pick one and stay with it. In hindsight for me, the Ki5 is every bit as good and it should still be in my bag.
crazyups
Professional
Good to know in case I get tennis elbow with the PDR. It is significantly more powerful than the 5g in the power comparisons.
crazyups
Professional
Well, I played one match with my pro 7g cut down to 27.25". Still has the sublime feel and is more maneuverable. Power about the same because I added a bit more weight(12 ounces with a 7 point head light balance). I will try this setup more now, that quarter inch less makes playing easier.
From reading about the 5g and 7g it seems that the 5g is not just a shortened 7g, people are saying that the 5g is more flexible and PK website says that 5g and ki5 is 65 stiff and 7g is 70 stiff(unstrung I would think). So whoever wants a standard length closest to 7g feel should try cutting half an inch off of the 7g. I did not like the kiq5.
From reading about the 5g and 7g it seems that the 5g is not just a shortened 7g, people are saying that the 5g is more flexible and PK website says that 5g and ki5 is 65 stiff and 7g is 70 stiff(unstrung I would think). So whoever wants a standard length closest to 7g feel should try cutting half an inch off of the 7g. I did not like the kiq5.
DaveInBradenton
Rookie
You can check compare racket's sweet spot and power zones here:
http://twu.tennis-warehouse.com/learning_center/contours.php
There are significant differences between the 5G & 7G if memory serves.
Dave
http://twu.tennis-warehouse.com/learning_center/contours.php
There are significant differences between the 5G & 7G if memory serves.
Dave
JGads
G.O.A.T.
Update again after a few more sessions. Intrigued if you'll continue to prefer it to what was.
I have a Ki 5 TW demo coming in late this week, early next week, along with 3 other racquets. Am looking for some arm friendly alternatives and wanted to try something other than Prince, Head, Wilson, etc... I'd be interested to hear what your impressions of the Ki 5 were, and why you regret giving it away. Thanks.
Have had one in my bag for a couple of years for when my elbow flares up. Good,solid racquet that has no obvious weaknesses. If no particular stand out features either. Of my main racquet but still have it just in case.
crazyups
Professional
I will but I have to get in shape again to wield it properly. I was inactive for 3 weeks due to being busy. Any kind of extended length requires better footwork.
crazyups
Professional
Ya but I always wondered if those differences are on account of the extended length only.
crazyups
Professional
Well I didn't use my 27.25" pro 7g, but I did use my 27.125" ki q5. What I had done was added the quarter inch that I took off the 7g and used it to lengthen my kiq5 which was an eighth of an inch shorter than 27. This improved somehow the feel of the q5 and I played pretty well with it. I even choked up slightly on the q5 while serving which gave me better maneuverability/results on my serve(I'm 6'4"). I don't understand how a quarter or even an eighth of an inch affects me so much but it does. I like the extra power/reach of slightly extended, but dislike my serve with it.
It is really hard for me to give up on a 100 square inch racquet with a 16x20 string pattern. That is so unique because I get power with control. Blx blade 98 continues to be awesome and fairly similar to these kennexes. I will continue to use these 3 racquets but my PDR will probably not be used that much. I don't expect anyone to do these crazy mods but thought some might be interested.
It is really hard for me to give up on a 100 square inch racquet with a 16x20 string pattern. That is so unique because I get power with control. Blx blade 98 continues to be awesome and fairly similar to these kennexes. I will continue to use these 3 racquets but my PDR will probably not be used that much. I don't expect anyone to do these crazy mods but thought some might be interested.
I've been demo'ing a lot of racquets lately. Yonex DR98, Blade 18x20, Textreme Tour 95, Prince Tour 100, Babolat PST, Babolat PDT, & Babolat PCT. Demo'd a 7G and really loved it. I think my journey has finally come to an end.
How is everyone stringing it? Hybrid? What tension? Thanks so much!
How is everyone stringing it? Hybrid? What tension? Thanks so much!
What do you string with? Has anyone tried a full bed of Head Hawk Touch or another soft poly?
beltsman
G.O.A.T.
No, I have it at ~50 with full bed of Forten syn gut. I don't mess with polys anymore, sorry.
Fwiw, I strung the KI5 320 with 16g cheap gut mains/Red Devil 1.19 cross.
Same headisize and pattern as the 7g, but normal length.
62/57.5 I strung it tighter than normal to seat the new grommets.
So likely more like 60/56. It plays firm but very nice. I'll likely decrease tension next time
but I'm used to a softer and less powerful racket.
Same headisize and pattern as the 7g, but normal length.
62/57.5 I strung it tighter than normal to seat the new grommets.
So likely more like 60/56. It plays firm but very nice. I'll likely decrease tension next time
but I'm used to a softer and less powerful racket.
mikeler
Moderator
Try my hybrid first before anything else. B5E and Thunder Blast are both medium stiffness in their categories. Full poly might be too stiff in a 16x20 but some of the new softer polys may work as a full bed.
If I still had the 7G, I would definitely try a full bed of Isospeed Black Fire.
The string is very low powered yet one of the slickest. At a very low tension, this might provide plenty of comfort in addition to performance.
I loved the 7G but it was too powerful for me. Back then I was using gut-poly at 70/60 lbs; never knew to try extremely low tension full poly.
The string is very low powered yet one of the slickest. At a very low tension, this might provide plenty of comfort in addition to performance.
I loved the 7G but it was too powerful for me. Back then I was using gut-poly at 70/60 lbs; never knew to try extremely low tension full poly.
Yep. Will do. My demo had a full bed of multi (whatever TW supplies). I liked it but it popped after a hour of hitting and 3 games into a set. I usually don't break strings.
eldub20
Rookie
I use ProLine II @ 54/57 and never had a problem.
beltsman
G.O.A.T.
Felt disconnected from my Ai 98 and couldn't get dialed in, so I swapped back to my 7G. It is really nice. Very powerful, almost too much really. But gives me control to all areas of the court - my FH is banging. Serve is too powerful to be honest. Might have to restring it. But it's super comfortable and I can rip forehands. BH slice is...meh...but that's probably an issue of practice.
The static weight/SW of the 7G is just really nice for my FH. It's a more natural swing for me than the Ai 98.
So, I've sidelined my Ai 98 and will roll with the 7G for now.
The static weight/SW of the 7G is just really nice for my FH. It's a more natural swing for me than the Ai 98.
So, I've sidelined my Ai 98 and will roll with the 7G for now.
ced
Professional
My experience with the 7G duplicates this........ very good stick, does all things well.
I already have:
http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/inde...e-compare-these-3.555839/page-3#post-10250788
The increased stiffness is real. It's less comfortable and more powerful; even more powerful than the Ki5x. I'm still using it, but I haven't decided yet if I'll stick with it.
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Tar Heel Tennis
Professional
Bumping.... I'll be getting my first 7G in a few days...will be hitting with it for the first time.
I prefer playing with full poly tensioned in the high 40 range. I like FireWire, Hyper-G, and Cyclone Tour 16.
Any string suggestions for this stick?
I prefer playing with full poly tensioned in the high 40 range. I like FireWire, Hyper-G, and Cyclone Tour 16.
Any string suggestions for this stick?
tim-ay
Legend
I’m still in the honeymoon phase of the G (I bought 2) for about a month. Tour Sniper is great in it. I have FireWire Boost in one that is great in it. I think it can handle a wide range of strings. I’m liking TS at 50 and 52, FB I strung at 53. I think any poly around your normal tension is going to play well.
mmazzinin1
Semi-Pro
Any more love for the 7G these days? I brought it out recently as recovering from a non-tennis-related elbow injury which developed in a tennis elbow...and it never disappoints. The gift that keeps on giving.
Frankly, nothing beats the 7G in a full bed of NRG2 1.32 for arm-comfort. It should be sold as a medical device
Frankly, nothing beats the 7G in a full bed of NRG2 1.32 for arm-comfort. It should be sold as a medical device
mmazzinin1
Semi-Pro
LOL so true, not easy to stick to one racquet even though it is "the one".
To me the PK 7G is probably not the best possible one in terms of playability, but it is definitely the one in terms of mix of performance combined with arm health
To me the PK 7G is probably not the best possible one in terms of playability, but it is definitely the one in terms of mix of performance combined with arm health
SteveI
Legend
It has a pretty high SW... For Me...
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I've had many a love affair with the 7g. It never lets me down.
But sadly it doesn't excite either. Probably because I know it's 20+ years old, but it plays great stock. For the longest time I said it's the best extended Pure Drive out there.
Probably the best value frame currently as well. A nice cosmetic update (and maybe modernize the name) would do nicely for PK.
But sadly it doesn't excite either. Probably because I know it's 20+ years old, but it plays great stock. For the longest time I said it's the best extended Pure Drive out there.
Probably the best value frame currently as well. A nice cosmetic update (and maybe modernize the name) would do nicely for PK.
mmazzinin1
Semi-Pro
Not sure about 5G better than 7G...consensus here in the Forum is quite the opposite
mmazzinin1
Semi-Pro
I mean, they have the Q+5X as a modern counterpart
SteveI
Legend
The 5G is 27 inches and has a decent SW. It is much easier to use if you have modern strokes. I found the 7G to be a bit hard to get moving. I could serve better with the 5G and loved the 5G for volleys. The 7G is pretty tough to use at the net for me. Only downside to the newer version of the 5G is that it had a history of cracking at the throat when used by big hitters. I never broke one..
. They are both great on the arm and are pretty cheap compared to today's new frames.mmazzinin1
Semi-Pro
How do you find the power level of the 5G from the baseline?
It’s fairly lower powered. More suited to old school string setups. A buddy of mine plays the 5G with a super thin poly and loves it, but he’s a string nerd and restrings often. NG/ poly hybrid plays nice, I use such in my ki5 320 and it’s super nice.
SteveI
Legend
I played it with much the same setups. I used Cyclone 19G and TF high end multis / poly.. or the reverse. It is a players type frame with a bigger head and a bit more power on demand. Natty Gut.. is excellent also. Now that I am talking about this frame again.. I am sure to buy one this week..LOL
mmazzinin1
Semi-Pro
Lol, I might follow you
mmazzinin1
Semi-Pro
Today I played a couple of hours vs a big hitter- I 100% agree that the 7G shines when there is high pace. It just absorbs the power from the opponent and kicks back crazy shots. After few outings, I am also getting better in maneuvering it and having higher vertical speed to access good top spin. And let's not mention how good this thing is on volleys...the love affair continues...
With a full bed of NRG2 16 (2 knots) @49 lbs, it is top notch.
With a full bed of NRG2 16 (2 knots) @49 lbs, it is top notch.
Nice. 2 knots or 4 doesn't matter. I always string two piece (4 knots) but i normally string hybrids.
I also string two piece even if full bed as it's easier on the strings, IMO (especially multi or NG).
I do string at much higher tension in a hybrid 60/56, but i grew up in the 80s and am used to higher tensions.
I just don't prefer extended frames, so i prefer the 5G over the 7G. (but still playing the Ki5 320)
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SteveI
Legend
The SW is pretty high for an aging player..even with very good skills. If the player had shorter strokes it still might work but there are much better options like a PD 110/OS...etc. I liked the 5G because it is 27 inches long and the getting the frame going is much easier. I also have a OHBH so the 5G works much better. The 5G does not supply a ton of free power unless you are a advanced player with big strokes and a faster swing speed and you are coming from a true players frame.
mmazzinin1
Semi-Pro
I played a tough double today- here the amazing stability of the frame really shines- serves, volleys, returns. Such a solid frame. SW is not too high, low 330s in a headlight balance is still quite manageable, in my view.
