i rewatched nadal vs djokovic 15 RG QF , only djokovic can stop nadal at 15 RG

[ForehandRF]

Nadal in 4

It's Nadal 2011, not 2012, so think about it.

 

[kevaninho]

Some of you people have blinkers on, or just have a poor memory.

Try and see it from Nadal fans eyes. The people who truly can gauge his level. Ones like me, who watched just about every match he played in 2015, willing him to somehow get back his old form.

I can honestly say, Nadal was never in any shape to beat Djokovic that day. Nor was he good enough to beat the other guys waiting ahead.
Chatrier, or not, he just wasn't good enough to even win his pet slam.
He was terrible IMO.

2016 is a different story, as ive said before, I believe he had improved vastly on clay by then, that he would've been much closer, although he had to go through Thiem, Goffin and then Djokovic in the SF, which could've been brutal.

 

[RaulRamirez]

As all tennis fans know, only two people have beaten Nadal at RG - Soderling in 09, and Djokovic in 05. Period.
The rest is all speculation.
My only speculation is that it's reasonable that if Nadal won his QF against Novak, that he would have found his way to the final and won once there.
Would this have happened? Pure conjecture. It depends on whether you look at his play in 2015, or his overall dominance at RG.
I lean to this view: Even a subpar Rafa is a beast at RG.

But again, the facts are that Novak is one of only two to beat Rafa at RG - and he came within a whisker of beating him in 2013.
(I remain a huge fan of both players.)

 

[Lew II]

Mate, the guy said that Djokovic was the only one who could beat Rafa. And I’m saying Stan would have also.
Soderling was the 1st player ever to beat Rafa at RG and Rafa was in his prime

How do you know Wawrinka would have beaten him? Only who beat Nadal in reality are Djokovic and Soderling.

 

[HetTheGreaterer]

It's Nadal 2011, not 2012, so think about it.

It's nadal at RG. Think about it

 

[BH40love]

How do you know Wawrinka would have beaten him? Only who beat Nadal in reality are Djokovic and Soderling.

well I know Wawrinka smashes Djokovic at majors so how do u think he would have won vs Wawrinka if he switched strategies LOL. He probably just retire before the end, like USO.
How are you gonna come on here and say only djokovic could have beat him? Wawrinka was in the final , sorry Nadal didn’t make it

 

[ForehandRF]

It's nadal at RG. Think about it

Don't pretend like Nadal played at the same level in both years.In 2012 he was clearly better.

 

[Lew II]

well I know Wawrinka smashes Djokovic at majors so how do u think he would have won vs Wawrinka if he switched strategies LOL. He probably just retire before the end, like USO.
How are you gonna come on here and say only djokovic could have beat him? Wawrinka was in the final , sorry Nadal didn’t make it

That's not how tennis works. Wawrinka matches up well with Djokovic but not with Nadal.

 

[HetTheGreaterer]

Don't pretend like Nadal played at the same level in both years.In 2012 he was clearly better.

But he's still nadal at RG.
And if djok couldn't get past fed, he would not get past nadal for sure

 

[ForehandRF]

But he's still nadal at RG.
And if djok couldn't get past fed, he would not get past nadal for sure

Even in 2015, he was still Nadal at RG.See, that it's not a good explanation and I hope you understand what I mean.Regarding your 2nd line, I already addressed that in post 87.
Look, I don't have a horse in this race, so it's easier for me to be neutral and this is what I think on the subject.We just have a different opinion.

 

[StrongRule]

I think 2011 Djokovic would've had good chances against 2011 Nadal.

Have to agree. Nadal was lucky in RG 2011 that Federer took Djokovic out for him. Djokovic was playing the best clay tennis of his career while Nadal was average by his standards (he struggled during most of the tournament, including the final) and very low on confidence. I don't think he would have the mentality to beat Djokovic that year.