I still can't believe how much Djokovic achieved in the last 10 years

[Ray Mercer]

Exactly. Fedal had opportunities to be put further distance between themselves and Djokovic back then but were unable to do it.

If Fed got to play Berretinni, Tsitsipas, Anderson, Kyrgios, Thiem etc hed have 30 plus slams. Those guys are all bums. Federer had to contend with a prime Djokovic and Nadal as he aged. Djokovic is playing straight bums.

 

[Chanwan]

His 2011 - 2016 period is and always will be LEGENDARY. Stuff of the Goats. Came into the FEDAL party and started beating them (though Fed became way past his prime and Nadal beat Djokovic several times too, still 3 of them created the best period of mens tennis at that time) Add to that incredible competition of great Murray, redlining Wawrinka, still awesome Delpo.

His 2020 - present period, although may produce similiar/better numbers and ultmately, will give him statistical best player of all time status, I can't give him the same credit as I give him for his early 2010's period. ATP tour has been pathetic for couple of years (and yes it inflated Fed and Nadal slam numbers a little bit too).

The latter period is already producing better numbers.

11 out of 22 slams won from AO 11 to FO 16.

10 out of 17 slams won from W 18 to AO 23*

Conclusion? Djoko is the first ever to actually play better in his 30's? The field is shiiiit? A mix?

*not counting him being absent but am counting the DQ at the US

 

[Chanwan]

Born in same year as Federer, Djokovic would've 10 slams more than Federer!

Djokovic, the mentally strongest of all champions!

The post you replied to was comical but yours might be even more so

 

[MeatTornado]

Anything is possible in the Paire Era

 

[Hypo Crisis]

Mats Wilander also had 1 great year. So ?

So ?
Mats Wilander is not even among top 10 with longest winning streaks in tennis. Djokovic is on No. 3 spot above Federer with 2011.
A year where 2 so called GOATS at that time were left with crumbs from Djokovic.
Did Wilander had such year or you are saying what you were saying back then - it is a fluke ?
What exactly Novak had to do so it would slap you in the face you are witnessing player that is above any level Fedal can produce ? Fedal never had such season with peak big 3 healthy and competing. Never ever.
But Wilander.... hmm.

 

[ND-13]

Ask yourself how can a player do better in their 30's than their 20's

 

[Clay lover]

Even when you argue that Fedal were past their primes, we kinda have to face the fact that no one Djokovic's age and even those younger than him were able to "capitalize". He was the only one who could capitalize to that extent.

Also if your prime was shorter so you "capitalized" less, it's on you. Longevity is part of the tennis package lol.

 

[nolefam_2024]

Ask yourself how can a player do better in their 30's than their 20's

I had done great post on this. Djokovic didn't do better in 30s only in slams.

He had 30 masters before age 30
5 YEC out of which 4 came in a row, record. No one probably even had hattrick before him.

Nole from 2011 to 2016 won around 25 masters out of 51 he played I think. He was bullying the entire field out of slams. In slams he was reaching semis and finals and had some heartbreaking losses.

After 2018 he was never this dominating out of slams. During slams he has become mental beast in 30s.

Anyone who thinks he is better in 30s is cheating readers. 25 masters in 6 years is peakest tennis. None of these bozos raz or rune will get this quickly.

 

[nolefam_2024]

When Novak wins he doesn't stop. He wins in bunches.

2011 Wimby to 2012 AO
2015 ao to 2016 RG
2018 Wimby to 2019 AO
2021 AO to 2021 Wimby
Now we don't know if he has another great run remaining but no one will ever doubt him.

If he wins RG then he might be on another 3 (4) slam run. That's how great Novak Djokovic is.

 

[nolefam_2024]

Roger Federer also had two great runs.
2005 Wimby to 2006 AO
2006 Wimby to 2007 AO

 

[nolefam_2024]

Nole literally focused his entire winning on grand slams and number 1 ranking after his comeback in 2018 because that's what was criteria for the goat. He achieved both.

If not for pandemic he would have left Rafa in the dust by now. And ranking too would have been extraordinarily bigger.

 

[nolefam_2024]

Before 2018 nole was still best in masters 30 was record when he got injured.
Nole was just 1 shy of Rogers 6 YEC too.
And he had already had his peakest year.

Fedal fans are very jealous of noles SLAM success post 2018 when they don't want to balance how hard he had it before rising to the top.

In the end all things balanced out and cream rose to the top. Top of all records is now nole.

 

[SecondToNone]

Ask yourself how can a player do better in their 30's than their 20's

Wait till you hear about marathon world record.

 

[initialize]

Wait till you hear about marathon world record.

Doing a marathon, which is pure endurance, is much different than tennis which is a game that requires not only endurance, but quick reflexes, agility, speed, and strength to a certain degree. These things peak in one's 20s

 

[Texas Tennis Fan]

AT most we have 2-4 weak years for Fed as opposed to nearly a decade for Djokovic (due to 2 successive weak generations). As if that's a fair comparison. You Djokovic fans are so much more hypocritical than Fed fans. You cannot say weak clay field for Nadal when he has literally dominated every generation on that surface from the time he was a teenager until now.

Which may indicate a weak clay era. Exactly what you are saying with Djokovic who is winning slams all over the place so it must be weak. He may just be a dominant player in terms of his preparation, diet, stretching, etc.

 

[Texas Tennis Fan]

They were past their peak. And they had exerted themselves considerably while Djokovic was underperforming.

It is just killing you Fedal fans that Djokovic is going to be the consensus GOAT.
Nadal and Federer had their chances, but Djokovic capitalized more often.

 

[Texas Tennis Fan]

If Fed got to play Berretinni, Tsitsipas, Anderson, Kyrgios, Thiem etc hed have 30 plus slams. Those guys are all bums. Federer had to contend with a prime Djokovic and Nadal as he aged. Djokovic is playing straight bums.

Look at the murderer's row (LOL) Federer played in the 2000's or Nadal during his entire clay court seasons.

 

[nolefam_2024]

It is just killing you Fedal fans that Djokovic is going to be the consensus GOAT.
Nadal and Federer had their chances, but Djokovic capitalized more often.

Yes. 12 slams
8 out of 9 masters won
30 masters that time record
Nole slam
Highest points ever

Fedal fans completely went blind during 2017 ao to 2018 rg. Supported by tennis commentators of course. They started denying Nole his place among the goats.

Now the tables are completely turned. Even the same commentators who hyped especially Federer but Nadal too abandoned both. Begrudgingly, reluctantly but unanimously. They all have to now praise Nole as the sole goat.

 

[LaVie en Rose]

First answer a question how he did it in 2011 when it was hardest possible.
After that it will come to you naturally

Nothing comes naturally to boring unoriginal troll you're replying to

Before 2018 nole was still best in masters 30 was record when he got injured.
Nole was just 1 shy of Rogers 6 YEC too.
And he had already had his peakest year.

Fedal fans are very jealous of noles SLAM success post 2018 when they don't want to balance how hard he had it before rising to the top.

In the end all things balanced out and cream rose to the top. Top of all records is now nole.

I remember fedfan agenda when they have to cope with Djokovic achieved Masters record FIRST, (30th masters at Rogers Cup 2016), his relative lesser success (comparing to other 2 was that RF didn't care for Masters only GS

 

[ND-13]

I had done great post on this. Djokovic didn't do better in 30s only in slams.

He had 30 masters before age 30
5 YEC out of which 4 came in a row, record. No one probably even had hattrick before him.

Nole from 2011 to 2016 won around 25 masters out of 51 he played I think. He was bullying the entire field out of slams. In slams he was reaching semis and finals and had some heartbreaking losses.

After 2018 he was never this dominating out of slams. During slams he has become mental beast in 30s.

Anyone who thinks he is better in 30s is cheating readers. 25 masters in 6 years is peakest tennis. None of these bozos raz or rune will get this quickly.

He became a beast in 30’s and he suffered heartbreaking losses previously means he was good in 30’s as compared to 20’s

It is as simple as that .

BO3 are for chumps , let us not go there and there are 10’of them in a year and does not mean much . Slams are the real deal

 

[LaVie en Rose]

He became a beast in 30’s and he suffered heartbreaking losses previously means he was good ih 30’s as compared to 20’s

It is as simple as that .

BO3 are for chumps , let us not go there and there are 10’of them in a year and does not mean much . Slams are the real deal

Your heart is broken poor soul!

 

[nolefam_2024]

He became a beast in 30’s and he suffered heartbreaking losses previously means he was good in 30’s as compared to 20’s

It is as simple as that .

BO3 are for chumps , let us not go there and there are 10’of them in a year and does not mean much . Slams are the real deal

That's your low thinking.

BO3 results matter. Not for your thinking then change your thinking.

 

[nolefam_2024]

Nothing comes naturally to boring unoriginal troll you're replying to

I remember fedfan agenda when they have to cope with Djokovic achieved Masters record FIRST, (30th masters at Rogers Cup 2016), his relative lesser success (comparing to other 2 was that RF didn't care for Masters only GS

You remember correctly. Fedfans and even rafans who boasted masters records have short memory span. We need to remind them as they are now rewriting history.

 

[ND-13]

That's your low thinking.

BO3 results matter. Not for your thinking then change your thinking.

Ask any random person how many masters Pete , Agassi, McEnroe or Borg won. They will wonder what is wrong with you.

 

[nov]

Weak career inflation era. Djokovic born 6 years earlier would have had no more than 5 slams won.

 

[T007]

After the 2013 season finished, Djokovic only won 6 slams out of 12 GS finals. Meanwhile Federer alrady had 17 slams, Nadal finished the season strong with 13 slams. What made it even more devastating: He lost a winnable 2013 RG match against Nadal, was straight-setted by Murray in the Wimbledon final and lost again against Nadal in the USO final. Remember the net at RG? The point the turned around the match?

By the end of 2013 I accepted the fact that he will probably max out at ~10 slams and Federer/Nadal will both come close to ~20. That Federer and Nadal will become the 2 greatest tennis players of all time and Djokovic just an ATG comparable to McEnroe, Lendl and Agassi.

Then the 2014 season started where he lost to Wawrinka in the AO QF and again to Nadal at RG. People were already talking that he is done winning slams and I slowly started to believe that too. He was still at only 6 slams and Nadal got to his 14th. The gap just wasn't closing, it widened even further.

Wimbledon 2014 changed everything, really everything. It was only his 2nd title at this event and who could have imagined that he would be at 7 Wimbledon titles 8 years later? Not only that, be he transformed into a GS final winning machine. He lost 7 out of his first 13 GS finals and then won 16 out of 20! 10 years ago he was barely in the Top10 of ATG and now he is considered by many to be the GOAT of tennis.

What a crazy ride.

Career inflation Era.
Nadal 1st downfall in 2014.
Murray undergoing surgery.

Only Stan and old Fed were competitions.