I think it's safe to say by the end of 2024, Sinner is better than Alcaraz. Say if the world just ended tomorrow (or start of 2025).. I think sinner

[nolefam_2024]

Lol. I just gave you the results and you chose to ignore them.

You gave me results and I gave you results.
Before 2024 results is why Raz is ahead for his fans and its fine. We will see how long his legacy pts will continue. Classic NADAL vs Djokovic case here.

 

[NYTennisfan]

You gave me results and I gave you results.
Before 2024 results is why Raz is ahead for his fans and its fine. We will see how long his legacy pts will continue. Classic NADAL vs Djokovic case here.

Yes, Sinner and Alcaraz had careers before 2024 so it matters.

Even in Sinner's Peak Year and Alcaraz's Down Year, they tied in slams and Alcaraz beat him at a slam, a Masters and a 500 the latter two on Sinner's precious surface.

 

[nolefam_2024]

Yes, Sinner and Alcaraz had careers before 2024 so it matters.

Even in Sinner's Peak Year and Alcaraz's Down Year, they tied in slams and Alcaraz beat him at a slam, a Masters and a 500 the latter two on Sinner's precious surface.

Sinner's peak is just coming up. You will remain here I assume for next 5 years at least. Be ready.

 

[tennis_pro]

Trust me boy, there is very little you can do against the disconcerting solidity that Sinner is increasingly assimilating into his game.
Obviously he too can be beaten, and the seasonal h2h with Alcaraz proves it.
But the technical and mental solidity that allows you to always maintain a consistently high level, you either have this or you don't.

This is so false, take literally any ATG in the history of the game including the big 3 and tell me how consistent they were for the first couple of years of their careers. Alcaraz could literally be the best under 21 player in the history of tennis results wise. Let's talk next year or even 2 years from now and if he's still very incostitent then we can go back to this discussion.

67-6, this is a record almost worthy of the best seasons of Federer and Djokovic, all having to live since last April with the strong stress generated by the positivity and all the various procedural dynamics.

Sinner's 2024 isn't even half as good as Fed's or Djokovic's 3rd or 4th best season, what are you talking about. And don't even get me started on the mugs he's beating, the only player who matters as an opponent for him is Alcaraz and he's 0-3 against him this year including 0-2 on HC.

Anyone who understands a minimum of the dynamics of tennis knows perfectly well that Alcaraz is destined to be the most flashy in the dualism, while Sinner is the most successful.
Question of tennis DNA.

4>2 Slams while being 2 years younger at 21. I genuinely don't understand how anyone can make an argument for Sinner today. If it's 4-4 next year then we'll talk.

 

[NYTennisfan]

Sinner's peak is just coming up. You will remain here I assume for next 5 years at least. Be ready.

I'm sure it will, he's playing very high level an ATG level, but I'm just seeing too much of the Sinnfans writing off Alcaraz which they commonly do to prop up their guy. Alcaraz is still right there with him this season despite Sinner peaking.

 

[nolefam_2024]

I'm sure it will, he's playing very high level, I'm just seeing too much of the Sinnfans writing off Alcaraz which they commonly do to prop up their guy.

And same with Raz fans who don't acknowledge Sinner has gone beyond Raz has ever gone.

 

[NYTennisfan]

And same with Raz fans who don't acknowledge Sinner has gone beyond Raz has ever gone.

Because he hasn't but you seem to be stuck on your stance and ignoring mine so I'll bow out now. Cheers

 

[nolefam_2024]

Because he hasn't but you seem to be stuck on your stance and ignoring mine so I'll bow out now. Cheers

11000 coming up
Stay here for the ride now.

 

[Winner Sinner]

This is so false, take literally any ATG in the history of the game including the big 3 and tell me how consistent they were for the first couple of years of their careers. Alcaraz could literally be the best under 21 player in the history of tennis results wise. Let's talk next year or even 2 years from now and if he's still very incostitent then we can go back to this discussion.


Sinner's 2024 isn't even half as good as Fed's or Djokovic's 3rd or 4th best season, what are you talking about. And don't even get me started on the mugs he's beating, the only player who matters as an opponent for him is Alcaraz and he's 0-3 against him this year including 0-2 on HC.

4>2 Slams while being 2 years younger at 21. I genuinely don't understand how anyone can make an argument for Sinner today. If it's 4-4 next year then we'll talk.

I was talking about a seasonal record for win percentage.
This 2024 almost coincides with the best seasons of Djokovic and Federer. Sinner can close this season with an even higher percentage than Djokovic 2011.
If he were to never lose a match again between now and the end of the year, only Federer 2005 and 2006, and Djokovic 2015, have achieved a better win percentage.

And then enough with this story of global competition, do you think that Federer 2005-2006 had a higher competition than the current one? And on what basis?

The global level is always higher, not perhaps at the top of the pyramid but at medium-high level. And also ask yourself why in an era that you define as so weak, how come Alcaraz has already lost 12 matches this year, many of them against players ranked outside the top 20.

I close by saying that I don't care who between the two has the most victorious palmares now, it's not a 100m race but a marathon.
What matters is who wins more at the end of their career.
And the unmistakable trend of this season, that is the present and not the past, has shown that in terms of consistency and solidity between the 2 there is an abysmal gap, which will hardly be filled in the future, simply because it is an innate gift. Alcaraz matured first, Sinner took much longer to assert himself at certain levels, but even when he was an inferior player in his inferiority he always showed greater consistency, where he rarely beat those who preceded him in the ranking but equally rarely lost to those who succeeded him in the ranking, therefore devoid of ups and downs.

Now that his standard level has brought him to levels of excellence, all this combined with his innate consistency, he has given birth to this simply unscratchable tennis robot. Sinner bends but does not break, Alcaraz on the other hand bends and also breaks.

 

[Cabeza del Demonio]

Which is still better than Alcaraz's only HC slam won having HC journeyman Ruud in the USO Final

Care to remind us who played the YEC final a few months later?

 

[SonnyT]

Alcaraz stays no 1 until he's defeated by Sinner, in a slam!

 

[Nappa]

Sinner is better at being older

 

[Winner Sinner]

Alcaraz stays no 1 until he's defeated by Sinner, in a slam!

The important thing is to believe it.

 

[nolefam_2024]

No one cares about this type of opinion

 

[Bride of Alcaraz]

Alcaraz beat Djokovic in the Wimbledon Final, in straight sets (and last year in 5 sets)
Will Sinner ever do anything as difficult as that in his entire life?
Sinner is the weakest #1 in tennis history, because his rival won TWO slams in 2024 and won all THREE of their meetings!
Has a year-end-#1 ever failed so comprehensively in the h2h AND slam tally?
Alcaraz even beat Sinner when there was a banned substance inside of Sinner at Indian Wells...

 

[ND-13]

I would like Sinner and Alcaraz to be hyper focused on majors and let Zverev and gang to feast on masters. This way everyone can be happy and we can see a good slam race again.

 

[MichaelNadal]

Alcaraz is more entertaining, therefore he’s the only one I’m watching between the two