I was wrong about Emma.

Winners or Errors

Hall of Fame
Too early to tell, OP. Could be another in a long line of one slam wonders in the WTA. Encouraging performance this tournament from the youth of the WTA, though.
 

James P

G.O.A.T.
10 is probably too many. I don't think she's another in a long line of one time WTA major champs, but she's literally only played 4 WTA tournaments in her career. Let's see if she can reproduce this, if even in smaller tournaments.
 

ed70

Professional
Really improved her volleying & 2nd serve is solid enough too since Wimbledon. Looks like their could be even more improvement to come.
 

kishnabe

Talk Tennis Guru
If you had seen Iva Majoli, would have said the same thing.

She might end with just the one. Too many WTA players can win slams. Hitting Dartboard Blindfold, don't know who.

IMO, I think she wins 2-3 tops.
 

Devtennis01

G.O.A.T.
I think she wins 3 USO and a Wimbledon title, maybe 2.
I don't think ATG status is handed out quite so rigidly to WTA players as it is among ATP folk. Winning a USO at 18 as a qualifier plus 4 other slams should seal it.
 

rmontro

Rookie
Incredible temperament for an 18 yr old playing her second major. Too bad she's pretty and will get side tracked by social media and modeling.
Possible. That is likely a bigger distraction for the women players than for the men. But I was thinking that being attractive can actually help someone's game - being attractive, or having good genetics, can be a big boost for someone's confidence. Meanwhile, if a player is ugly, that person might be more inclined to doubt him or herself.
 

RaulRamirez

Legend
I won't predict, but Emma did not even look like she was on a hot streak.
She does so many things so well.
Incredible speed and balance, along with great anticipation. (Leylah, too, but you don't really notice how fast Emma is, as she's so smooth.) Terrific stroke mechanics, with easy power, already has an idea how to volley, Terrific point construction. Her ROS is extremely good, and her serve is good and should only get stronger.
 

Pctopcool

Rookie
I won't predict, but Emma did not even look like she was on a hot streak.
She does so many things so well.
Incredible speed and balance, along with great anticipation. (Leylah, too, but you don't really notice how fast Emma is, as she's so smooth.) Terrific stroke mechanics, with easy power, already has an idea how to volley, Terrific point construction. Her ROS is extremely good, and her serve is good and should only get stronger.
I guess her only technical shortfall is overhead. She would rather hit a swing volley than a smash. This reminds me someone who is going to play tomorrow.
 

Jason Swerve

Hall of Fame
If you had seen Iva Majoli, would have said the same thing.

She might end with just the one. Too many WTA players can win slams. Hitting Dartboard Blindfold, don't know who.

IMO, I think she wins 2-3 tops.
Majoli did more than play better than the kids today. Majoli pummeled a Hingis in her prime form, on her best surface, while suffering from a virus. Based on the highlights, Fernandez and Raducanu have a ways to go before they're hitting on that level. But it'd be even better if they could maintain these forms, an easy choice over Majoli's usual, middling form.
 

RaulRamirez

Legend
I guess her only technical shortfall is overhead. She would rather hit a swing volley than a smash. This reminds me someone who is going to play tomorrow.
Right? But it's a very small sample size to judge from. She did miss one of those swinging volleys where it seems like she probably could have bounced it and play it safer. I don't recall her hitting an overhead. although she did hit that...not sure what to call it...instinctive high volley that was a very tricky shot. her athleticism is marvelous. Her legs also must be made of iron - the way she moves around the court and keeps her base of power. Kerber-esque in that regard? There may be a better comparison.
 

gadge

Professional
I won't predict, but Emma did not even look like she was on a hot streak.
She does so many things so well.
Incredible speed and balance, along with great anticipation. (Leylah, too, but you don't really notice how fast Emma is, as she's so smooth.) Terrific stroke mechanics, with easy power, already has an idea how to volley, Terrific point construction. Her ROS is extremely good, and her serve is good and should only get stronger.
Didn’t we say the same things about iga last year? A fantastic mover with great mechanics and a unique game for the ages. A lot of players in wta look extremely good in one tournament and then something goes off
 

Jason Swerve

Hall of Fame
If you had seen Iva Majoli, would have said the same thing.

She might end with just the one. Too many WTA players can win slams. Hitting Dartboard Blindfold, don't know who.

IMO, I think she wins 2-3 tops.
More to the point, the difference is that Majoli suddenly played one match as the Queen of Tennis, while her very previous matches were played at a below average level. This is why Hingis was expected to win with ease.

Raducanu has been on a significant winning streak without dropping any sets up until now. The consistency from Majoli doesn't compare. My hope is for Osaka to recover soon and give this girl a challenge, because even Osaka racket "slamming" gives the feeling she doesn't care enough to toss it with emotion.
 

RaulRamirez

Legend
Didn’t we say the same things about iga last year? A fantastic mover with great mechanics and a unique game for the ages
Agreed, but I'm not down on Iga whatsoever. If not mistaken, she won a couple tourneys this year - one on hard and one on clay - in fairly dominating fashion. At the slams, she was good, if not great (from memory) -- R of 16 (3-set loss to Halep) at RG; QF (loss to Sakkari in a close one); R of 16 Wimb (Jabeur, also in 3 sets?) and a fairly close loss in R of 16 to Bencic here. She can still make Top 8 for the year. I think she's the real deal, and smart as she seems to be, can lose her head at times in frustration. But yes, she really knows how to play and is very athletic.

I think we just have to let these kids breathe a little and adjust to the tour, initial success, etc.
 

gadge

Professional
Agreed, but I'm not down on Iga whatsoever. If not mistaken, she won a couple tourneys this year - one on hard and one on clay - in fairly dominating fashion. At the slams, she was good, if not great (from memory) -- R of 16 (3-set loss to Halep) at RG; QF (loss to Sakkari in a close one); R of 16 Wimb (Jabeur, also in 3 sets?) and a fairly close loss in R of 16 to Bencic here. She can still make Top 8 for the year. I think she's the real deal, and smart as she seems to be, can lose her head at times in frustration. But yes, she really knows how to play and is very athletic.

I think we just have to let these kids breathe a little and adjust to the tour, initial success, etc.
Yes Iga was consistent throughout the year and is in the top 8 but her game has fizzled out a bit. She doesn’t play with confidence the way she did last year’s RG. She hesitates to go for her shots and plays defensive a lot and her serve has been horrible.
 

RaulRamirez

Legend
Yes Iga was consistent throughout the year and is in the top 8 but her game has fizzled out a bit. She doesn’t play with confidence the way she did last year’s RG. She hesitates to go for her shots and plays defensive a lot and her serve has been horrible.
Serve can be better, and her confidence can wax and wane - agreed.
I mean, she lost 28 total games at RG at age 19 last year! How do you top that? I don't know...is it like Orson Welles trying to match Citizen Kane? Serve seems to be her biggest weakness, and I think it takes her a little time to set up her shots. But I'll be surprised if she doesn't have a lot more big wins in her. And a couple titles, second-weeks at the slams and a Top 8 for the year will not be a bad sophomore season.
 

gadge

Professional
Serve can be better, and her confidence can wax and wane - agreed.
I mean, she lost 28 total games at RG at age 19 last year! How do you top that? I don't know...is it like Orson Welles trying to match Citizen Kane? Serve seems to be her biggest weakness, and I think it takes her a little time to set up her shots. But I'll be surprised if she doesn't have a lot more big wins in her. And a couple titles, second-weeks at the slams and a Top 8 for the year will not be a bad sophomore season.
Definitely she’s too good and too athletic to be a one slam wonder. She’d surpass ivanovic as the biggest underachiever if she doesn’t
 
Possible. That is likely a bigger distraction for the women players than for the men. But I was thinking that being attractive can actually help someone's game - being attractive, or having good genetics, can be a big boost for someone's confidence. Meanwhile, if a player is ugly, that person might be more inclined to doubt him or herself.
It's all perspective, just look a Serena..
 

RaulRamirez

Legend
Definitely she’s too good and too athletic to be a one slam wonder. She’d surpass ivanovic as the biggest underachiever if she doesn’t
I'd have to think about biggest disappointments - not counting injuries. I know I wanted Ana to win more, but was she that talented? there must be others, but my brain isn't coming up with them art the moment.
 

gadge

Professional
I'd have to think about biggest disappointments - not counting injuries. I know I wanted Ana to win more, but was she that talented? there must be others, but my brain isn't coming up with them art the moment.
Among the one slam wonders Ana comes to mind. Her forehand during that 08 RG was devastating. Got to world no.1 and lost all motivation never did anything big after that point. She reached a couple of slam finals before that win so she was fairly consistent before the slam title but not afterwards
 

RaulRamirez

Legend
Among the one slam wonders Ana comes to mind. Her forehand during that 08 RG was devastating. Got to world no.1 and lost all motivation never did anything big after that point. She reached a couple of slam finals before that win so she was fairly consistent before the slam title but not afterwards
Just looking at her record, it does seem as if she had her best years at (ages) 19 and 20. A bit puzzling. From the outside, we can speculate about other interests and lesser motivation, but I just don't know. I hadn't recalled that she won RG - and reach her other two finals - at such a young age.
 

gadge

Professional
Just looking at her record, it does seem as if she had her best years at (ages) 19 and 20. A bit puzzling. From the outside, we can speculate about other interests and lesser motivation, but I just don't know. I hadn't recalled that she won RG - and reach her other two finals - at such a young age.
Yup she should’ve won much more than she did.
 

King No1e

G.O.A.T.
Possible. That is likely a bigger distraction for the women players than for the men. But I was thinking that being attractive can actually help someone's game - being attractive, or having good genetics, can be a big boost for someone's confidence. Meanwhile, if a player is ugly, that person might be more inclined to doubt him or herself.
Or they become like Dimitrov and get too hung up on their image to "win ugly"
 

Jason Swerve

Hall of Fame
Among the one slam wonders Ana comes to mind. Her forehand during that 08 RG was devastating. Got to world no.1 and lost all motivation never did anything big after that point. She reached a couple of slam finals before that win so she was fairly consistent before the slam title but not afterwards
Ana Ivanovic in her heyday was a stronger clay courter than Iga Swiatek. This makes Ana a better all-around player than a good 90% of the tour. Raducanu hits a very solid forehand, lately. Very solid- Ana's was stronger.
 

gadge

Professional
Ana Ivanovic in her heyday was a stronger clay courter than Iga Swiatek. This makes Ana a better all-around player than a good 90% of the tour. Raducanu hits a very solid forehand, lately. Very solid- Ana's was stronger.
Young Ana had a lot of potential but didn’t do much after 08 RG and her FH is one of the best. Emma’s game is actually more similar to li na than Ana.
 

Visionary

Professional
I thought she would go down the Genie Bouchard route
Not only you were wrong, so do not feel bad. When Emma Raducanu's name came across the Tim Henman's table prior to this year's Wimbledon, the former pro player hesitated to give her the wild card for her lack of experience and skills with pros on WTA tour. There were many more sceptics about her. Few saw the potential in Emma's talent, skills, ability to prepare for tournaments and remember everything quickly and of course for her amazing intelligence.
 

Kralingen

Hall of Fame
It was a ridiculous comment in the first place.

Her ballstriking is unreal, and her 2nd serve return+serve are unreal. She has such a consistent and accurate 2nd serve, and she hit every single 2nd serve return from inside the baseline this tournament. Do you know the level of ballstriking that requires? Incredible level.

Deserved champ. She will win more in the future.
 

victorcruz

Hall of Fame
Didn't even lose a set... in the main draw... as a qualifier lol. How does that happen? I know she didn't have the bloodbath draw that Leylah had but that's still impressive.
 

ed70

Professional
Scary how good she could become when you consider her improvement between July & September this year! in both ball striking & strength of character.
 

Dolgopolov85

G.O.A.T.
I won't predict, but Emma did not even look like she was on a hot streak.
She does so many things so well.
Incredible speed and balance, along with great anticipation. (Leylah, too, but you don't really notice how fast Emma is, as she's so smooth.) Terrific stroke mechanics, with easy power, already has an idea how to volley, Terrific point construction. Her ROS is extremely good, and her serve is good and should only get stronger.
This, exactly. It reminded me of 2004 USO when McEnroe was raving about Fed's movement, saying he is so smooth he moves like water. Especially Emma's movement into her forehand corner to hit the DTL is beautiful. Just a few smooth big steps and stays nicely planted when she hits. If you would compare with Leylah hitting the same shot, her legs are much closer together and she is 'braking' to be able to hit the shot. This also forces her to get much closer to the ball and buggy whip it whereas Emma is in position to hit a full blooded flat forehand DTL (which was the most devastating shot in the women's tournament this USO).
 

Dolgopolov85

G.O.A.T.
@ topic, is it really necessary for now to prognosticate about how many she's won? Nobody pre tournament thought Emma would be the winner. So nobody knows, for all the knowing confidence they may project, how many more, if any, she will win. Let's just enjoy the ride while it lasts. I know that I'd much rather Emma wins many more than we think she can at this point than have the opportunity to gloat at those who got it 'wrong'.
 
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