I would be hilarious if Novak ends up with 12 Australian opens

SamprasisGOAT

Professional
All the nadal fans saying how amazing nadals 12 French opens are and how untouchable that record is. Imagine Djokovic equalling it? Unlikely I know. I’ve heard several people say Djokovic could end up with 8 Wimbledon’s to match Federer. So why not 4 more Australians? Nadal and his fans would be completely irrelevant, if they aren’t already.
 

Tony48

Legend
12 is highly unlikely. Nadal has been winning RG routinely since he was like 19 or something. 10 would be a tough task but much more doable.
 

Sport

G.O.A.T.
It's not happening. Thiem will defeat Djokovic in an AO final sooner or later, it's inevitable.


Plus, Nadal is far more dominant at RG than Djokovic at the AO. Djokovic needed 5 sets to defeat Thiem at the AO, while Nadal in 4 RG meetings against Thiem only has lost 1 set. And while Djokovic struggled against Stan at the AO, Stan never won a single set against Rafa at RG despite facing him twice in 2013 and 2017.



 
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Raul_SJ

G.O.A.T.
12 French Opens is the greatest achievement in the history of tennis due to the pure physicality of clay.
All the while absolutely dominating another GOAT Fed at that event.
Many greats (Sampras, Becker, Rafter, Mac) all have a combined ZERO.

It is just a mind-boggling record that will never be broken.
 
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Sport

G.O.A.T.
I'd be happy if he got to 10. 12 is asking a bit much considering he's 32.
And considering he needed 5 sets to defeat a 6 years younger Thiem in the AO final. Each year it will become more difficult to defend his AO title against Thiem, as he will only get older and older. I have no doubt that Thiem will defeat Novak in an AO final. It is only a matter of time.
 

Sunny Ali

Hall of Fame
All the nadal fans saying how amazing nadals 12 French opens are and how untouchable that record is. Imagine Djokovic equalling it? Unlikely I know. I’ve heard several people say Djokovic could end up with 8 Wimbledon’s to match Federer. So why not 4 more Australians? Nadal and his fans would be completely irrelevant, if they aren’t already.
Sampras ... Djokovic only needs another 3 Wimbledon titles to match Federer. He'll get there because there's no grass specialists around!

Hard court- more competition there so possible but much more difficult.
 

Sunny Ali

Hall of Fame
And considering he needed 5 sets to defeat a 6 years younger Thiem in the AO final. Each year it will become more difficult to defend his AO title against Thiem, as he will only get older and older. I have no doubt that Thiem will defeat Novak in an AO final. It is only a matter of time.
Sport ... isn't that unverifiable? :-D
 

Nadal_Django

Hall of Fame
Djokovic with 3 more Wimbledon titles will be considered greater grass player than Federer.

Those 3 finals between them, that Djokovic have won, are huge tiebreaker. ;)
 

Sport

G.O.A.T.
Sport ... isn't that unverifiable? :-D
It is a prediction within next 5 years, thus testable. I don't know how is is this polemic, haven't Djokovic fans assumed the inevitability of Thiem defeating Djokovic at the AO at some point? Do you think Djokovic will be unbeatable forever at the AO? The older he gets, the more vulnerable he will become to Thiem and new rising players that emerge in the future.
 

BGod

Legend
So that would mean Novak wins the event 4 consecutive years and 6 overall at age 33-37 or he wins titles at 38, 39 and/or 40.

And I really doubt that's going to happen. With Nadal at RG he started at 19 and has been taken to a 5th set twice along with 2 losses.

So common now.
 

BGod

Legend
Djokovic with 3 more Wimbledon titles will be considered greater grass player than Federer.

Those 3 finals between them, that Djokovic have won, are huge tiebreaker. ;)
Could actually do it with 2 more Wimbledons. If he kept at 7-1 record.
 

Sunny Ali

Hall of Fame
It is a prediction within next 5 years, thus testable. I don't know how is is this polemic, haven't Djokovic fans assumed the inevitability of Thiem defeating Djokovic at the AO at some point? Do you think Djokovic will be unbeatable forever at the AO? The older he gets, the more vulnerable he will become to Thiem and new rising players that emerge in the future.
Agreed Machan (y) I was just saying it in jest :p
 

doparrained

New User
10 is the absolute max. I might guess 9 just because the latest Australian Open has already happened. I honestly think he will win more future Wimbledons and possibly U.S Opens than Australian Opens as strange as that sounds.
 

doparrained

New User
Could actually do it with 2 more Wimbledons. If he kept at 7-1 record.
That depends do you consider Sampras above Federer at Wimbledon; which btw I consider reasonable. Since it would be the equivalent, other than Sampras had it harder playing on real grass, but then again Novak is Federer's contemporary.
 

beard

Hall of Fame
And considering he needed 5 sets to defeat a 6 years younger Thiem in the AO final. Each year it will become more difficult to defend his AO title against Thiem, as he will only get older and older. I have no doubt that Thiem will defeat Novak in an AO final. It is only a matter of time.
That is nonsence that every next year will be harder... Next year could be much easier, year after that even more easy... Its matter of many factors... form, injuries, schedules, competition in front of him...
Its possible Novak to win ao21 without losing a set... He could play no top 20 opponent whole tournament...Thiem could lose it round 3 next year, you can't tell it will be harder for him...

About age, its important, but we all learnt that age is just a number and other things are even more important...

Just look Nadal and USO... He won 13, was it more and more hard all the time since than? No...2019 was much easier than 2018....
 
Cartoonish numbers like these will make it even harder to get excited for slam wins in the future. Especially if it doesn't take great performances to win them. Another drop to add to the proverbial ocean.
 

Sport

G.O.A.T.
That is nonsence that every next year will be harder... Next year could be much easier, year after that even more easy... Its matter of many factors... form, injuries, schedules, competition in front of him...
Its possible Novak to win ao21 without losing a set... He could play no top 20 opponent whole tournament...Thiem could lose it round 3 next year, you can't tell it will be harder for him...

About age, its important, but we all learnt that age is just a number and other things are even more important...

Just look Nadal and USO... He won 13, was it more and more hard all the time since than? No...2019 was much easier than 2018....
1. I don't think each year gets easier. Do you think Djokovic will be winning AO titles aged 65? At some point, he will have declined so much that he won't win the AO anymore. I am not sure when will that point be, but it is obvious Thiem will defeat Novak in an AO final. It is only a matter of time.

2. Djokovic will never win an AO title without losing a set. He never did it till now, he ain't gonna do it now aged 33 and when he has a 6 years younger Thiem who pushed him to 5 sets in last year's final.
 

Sport

G.O.A.T.
Are you aware that next year, in eventual final Novak could lose, but could win in 3 sets, 2,2,2 or similar?
Novak Djokovic will never defeat Thiem in an AO final in 3 sets, don't be delusional. This year he needed 5 sets and he is almost 33 years old. Each year it will become more difficult for him, considering the age difference with Dominic.
 

swordtennis

G.O.A.T.
Be unreal however highly doubtful. As @Sunny Ali Deol stated. 3 Wimbledons better probability. He can sit up in the court and not wreck his body as much. I could see him get 1 more AO and 1 more USO. Hard courts are not easy lots of players are more comfortable on them. Would not be surprised if all he won from here on out are 3 more wimbledons.
 

itrium84

Professional
All the nadal fans saying how amazing nadals 12 French opens are and how untouchable that record is. Imagine Djokovic equalling it? Unlikely I know. I’ve heard several people say Djokovic could end up with 8 Wimbledon’s to match Federer. So why not 4 more Australians? Nadal and his fans would be completely irrelevant, if they aren’t already.
TBH, this record is one of the most amazing in tennis history, Nadal deserves his bragging rights.

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Jonesy

Hall of Fame
I'd rather Novak wins 4 more RG. But, now he needs to beat the prince of clay coming for his ass after AO...
 
Novak Djokovic will never defeat Thiem in an AO final in 3 sets, don't be delusional. This year he needed 5 sets and he is 33 years old. Each year it will become more difficult for him, considering the age difference with Dominic.
Nah. The age gap is only just over 6 years, and of course we all know that that doesn't constitute much of an advantage...
 

vex

Hall of Fame
And considering he needed 5 sets to defeat a 6 years younger Thiem in the AO final. Each year it will become more difficult to defend his AO title against Thiem, as he will only get older and older. I have no doubt that Thiem will defeat Novak in an AO final. It is only a matter of time.
Thiem may never even get back to the AO final... there are plenty of other good young players
 

Sunny Ali

Hall of Fame
Be unreal however highly doubtful. As @Sunny Ali Deol stated. 3 Wimbledons better probability. He can sit up in the court and not wreck his body as much. I could see him get 1 more AO and 1 more USO. Hard courts are not easy lots of players are more comfortable on them. Would not be surprised if all he won from here on out are 3 more wimbledons.
Sunny Ali Deol? ha ha, I like that moniker :-D(y)
 

Sport

G.O.A.T.
Thiem may never even get back to the AO final... there are plenty of other good young players
Wishful thinking at its finest. No other young player is stronger than Thiem at the AO, and only Medvedev has the potential to come close to Thiem's level.
 

vanioMan

Legend
All the nadal fans saying how amazing nadals 12 French opens are and how untouchable that record is. Imagine Djokovic equalling it? Unlikely I know. I’ve heard several people say Djokovic could end up with 8 Wimbledon’s to match Federer. So why not 4 more Australians? Nadal and his fans would be completely irrelevant, if they aren’t already.
Looks like somebody is way too salty about Sampras being surpassed by three greats. Especially when one of them is a non-talented Spanish moonballer who can only play on clay, picks up his behind and uses a lot of PEDs ;)

 

jm1980

G.O.A.T.
It's not happening. Thiem will defeat Djokovic in an AO final sooner or later, it's inevitable.


Plus, Nadal is far more dominant at RG than Djokovic at the AO. Djokovic needed 5 sets to defeat Thiem at the AO, while Nadal in 4 RG meetings against Thiem only has lost 1 set. And while Djokovic struggled against Stan at the AO, Stan never won a single set against Rafa at RG despite facing him twice in 2013 and 2017.



There is actually a decent field on HC unlike clay where you've got two, maybe three players with a chance of winning.
 

Sport

G.O.A.T.
There is actually a decent field on HC unlike clay where you've got two, maybe three players with a chance of winning.
The same applies to hard courts. Only two, maybe three players had a chance to win the AO this year: Novak and Thiem, maybe Nadal if he had played better and Thiem were in Djokovic's semifinal.
 

beard

Hall of Fame
Novak Djokovic will never defeat Thiem in an AO final in 3 sets, don't be delusional. This year he needed 5 sets and he is almost 33 years old. Each year it will become more difficult for him, considering the age difference with Dominic.
Well, this "he is not getting younger" story is old one on forum... Showed to be just bs... After Rg 15 and 16 many were saying Nadal is finished, he is too old, he will one more at most... He won next 3 and is favourite for 4th in a row...

How you can say Novak will never win against Thiem in final in 3 sets? You can't know that... You cant be so explicit, and if you are, you make your self frivolous... Off course Novak could beat him in 3, and off course he can lose to him in 3...
 

jm1980

G.O.A.T.
The same applies to hard courts. Only two, maybe three players had a chance to win the AO this year: Novak and Thiem, maybe Nadal if he had played better and Thiem were in Djokovic's semifinal.
Lol, no. Just looking at betting odds you can see a huge disparity between the AO and the French. Djokovic, Nadal, Federer, Thiem, Medvedev, and Tsitsipas all had decent odds. For the French you've got Nadal as a massive favorite, followed by Thiem and Djoker... and then a huge drop off until we get to Tsitsipas
 

beard

Hall of Fame
The same applies to hard courts. Only two, maybe three players had a chance to win the AO this year: Novak and Thiem, maybe Nadal if he had played better and Thiem were in Djokovic's semifinal.
BS!
You are saying that because you know who was in final... During the second week there were many possibilities we all discussed here... Med and Wawa were discussed as biggest obstacles for Novak in final, Nadal and Federer were mentioned as biggest favourites if Novak fails in earlier rounds, Tsitsipas was crippled by draw but was great at season end... Zverev was in sf first time...
 

Sport

G.O.A.T.
Well, this "he is not getting younger" story is old one on forum... Showed to be just bs... After Rg 15 and 16 many were saying Nadal is finished, he is too old, he will one more at most... He won next 3 and is favourite for 4th in a row...

How you can say Novak will never win against Thiem in final in 3 sets? You can't know that... You cant be so explicit, and if you are, you make your self frivolous... Off course Novak could beat him in 3, and off course he can lose to him in 3...
I apply the same logistics to Nadal, not only to Djokovic. Unless Nadal starts losing at RG before he gets to the final, Thiem will defeat Nadal in a RG final at some point. The crucial question is when. Will it be at RG 2020 or much later? Time will tell.

Lol, no. Just looking at betting odds you can see a huge disparity between the AO and the French. Djokovic, Nadal, Federer, Thiem, Medvedev, and Tsitsipas all had decent odds. For the French you've got Nadal as a massive favorite, followed by Thiem and Djoker... and then a huge drop off until we get to Tsitsipas
The betting odds are not reliable. Federer and Tsitsipas had no chance whatsoever at the AO in 2019 and 2020. The former due to his advanced age and the latter because he is not good enough. I can give you Medvedev though, but that would be like giving chances to win RG to Goffin.
 
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